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Post by play4jc on Jan 25, 2007 6:00:24 GMT -7
I know the FD2 has a distortion channel and a boost, Can those be used indendepent and is there a need for a fat boost?
I just got bought a Blonde 18w jr yesterday with 1x12 v30 speaker, I have a keely ts-9, not digging too much, my stock Boss BD-2 sounds better. I will be getting a OCD as soon as store restocks.
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Post by kich on Jan 25, 2007 6:26:43 GMT -7
I use both the Fat Boost and FD2. What Ilike about the FB is it does not color your sound. It gives you more of the amp sound, and push into Carlo Santana teritory. I usually leave this on all the time. The FD2 colors the sound a bit, not bad at all, just smooths it out in the mids a little more. I would say it does the crunch thing all the way into you could hold a note for a day type of deal! I hope this helps, let me know how the OCD sounds!
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Post by mentalray on Jan 25, 2007 7:25:55 GMT -7
I own all three of them. For me the Fat-Boost is the best.; no doubt. Try one and I bet you will agree. The other two stompboxes are overdrive pedals and that´s why they change the sound of the amp. Theay both are good sounding pedals but I like the FD2 more then the OCD because it is more related to the MAZ´s character.
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Post by play4jc on Jan 25, 2007 8:39:23 GMT -7
so the fat boost is a overdrive pedal? Why do u leave it on all the time? Arent these amps fat enough tonewise. Noone said if the FD2 can be used as a boost alone. Website is ok Ive had mine 2 days and havent even scratched the surface on what this amp will do. All od/dist pedals are going to color the sound, I had a OCD with my mesa F-50, i need something to take me close to gary moore territory, Lots of these Chritian tunes we do need that aspect on the leads
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Post by mentalray on Jan 25, 2007 9:31:05 GMT -7
No, the Fat-Boost is a boost pedal, not a overdrive and it is realy transparent. You can push the volume and with the drive pot you add some hair. What you get is a sound which is much fuller and warmer and IMHO just more beautiful then with the FD2 in boost-mode. If you want a Gary Moore-like sound you should use either a TS808 (as a booster), a Marshall Guv´nor or a Marshall Bluesbreaker II. That´s what he is using in front of his Marschall-amp.
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Post by 95strat on Jan 25, 2007 9:47:59 GMT -7
So the TS-9 isn't working for you? Hmm, what's the difference.
I play a Mesa Lonestar Special yesterday. It was okay, but I didn't fall in love with it. I can get a Maz 18 for the same price.
Did you compare the 2x10 to the 1x12?
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Post by (8^D) on Jan 25, 2007 9:52:19 GMT -7
Clean Boost - push the pre amp section of the amp for a natural grit or just boost the signal to beef it up a touch. Recommended pedals: Fat Boost, Keeley Katana, Xotic RC Booster.
Mid-gain OD - FDII (boost only works with 1st drive channel of pedal), OCD, BD-2, TS-9, SD-1(Keeley mods are da-bomb with the Boss Pedals), Barber Direct Drive
High-gain OD - Xotic BB Preamp...there are others on the forum.
Distorion Pedals - Fulltone Distortion Pro, Keeley Modded DS-1 Ultra...there are others mentioned on the forum.
Depends on the guitar, your style/ear, type of music you play, if you want the amp running on the verge of breakup, super clean or really dirty, etc. Best to find a few well recommended/recurring pieces to dial in, then start borrowing or trying out different items in the mix as you have the opportunity. If you like the tone of the amp/guitar alone I would suggest finding fairly transparent effects (Xotic line, Fulltone) to start. The Keeley Modded BLues Driver is pretty transparent as well and can cover a lot of sonic ground.
There are a lot of posts in the effects section too. Might pop in there and do a little poking around. Many good pedal evaluations by the fine folks on the forum.
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Post by play4jc on Jan 25, 2007 12:22:03 GMT -7
Thanks guys, my store just lent me a ibanez 808 reissue and a ts9 and a maxon sonic distortion. I have a stock blues driver and a keeley ts 9, im just not digging the ts9. Ive tried it on many amps as a boost but never liked it byitself.
Xotic BB preamp is a hi gain overdrive?.. just got this 18 jr, I got worlds to explore
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Post by jakeddy on Jan 28, 2007 12:29:01 GMT -7
The BB is a lot of things from clean boost to distortion. I like mine a lot and use it with the gain on half for a Marshall type tone.
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Post by jwr on Jan 28, 2007 13:41:10 GMT -7
Just got a FDII Mosfet yesterday and I really like it. With the Fatboost you can cover a lot of tones, and it seems to be a little more flexable than the BB. Just my opinion though. Jason
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Post by dei305 on Jan 28, 2007 17:25:41 GMT -7
play4jc, Congrats on your Maz 18Jr. The V30 is not the stock speaker. If you try a G12H, Weber, Eminence, etc, you will hear a whole other personality to your Maz. I leave my fat boost on all the time. Depending on guitar pup type single coil or bucker. The fat boost gives your guitar a "fatter" overall presence. the FDII is an awesome overdrive with a great deal of tonal adjustments. As was suggested, check out the xotic BB. Also, the tubes. Check out a GT 12AX7M in the V! spot. Also, check out the output tubes, GT EL-84's #6. As you can see we Z'ers are very passionate about Dr Z amps. You will find an amazing amount of primo info from the all the Z guys. We are glad you arrived! Rick
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Post by play4jc on Jan 29, 2007 13:49:49 GMT -7
Thanks rick, My guy orders all his 12" Z's with the v-30, the speaker you are talking about is 250.00, i think I saw 1 at Sam Ash music, just paid a ton for this amp. What is a good link to that speaker? I have a weber silver bell in my classic 30, think that be as good? A friend just brought me a ocd pedal to use, My stock BD-2 and Keeley ts9 are ok, lil grainy,
Answer me this, you keep your fat boost on all the time, cant the same be said cranking the volume and playing off the master? That didnt even sound right typing it, I always had a 2 channel amp and this is my first 1 channel
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Post by 95strat on Jan 29, 2007 14:52:41 GMT -7
I bet that weber would sound good in the Maz!
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Post by pcrosta on Jan 29, 2007 16:01:12 GMT -7
I use a Barber Silver LTD with a Midrange Mod powered by 15 volts...As natural of a tube distortion you will hear...no bottom end roll off..no coloration to your sound..no excessive compression like the Fultone Fulldrive gives..the OCD has a funny high end to it...check out Barber pedals..that guy knows tone like DR Z knows tone...
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Post by dei305 on Jan 29, 2007 21:22:56 GMT -7
play4jc, The fat boost: Using it will simply fatten the overall tone of any guitar you use. I typically set mine: volume around 9 O'Clock; tone around the same. This pedal works so fine with a Dr Z. Check out how your guitars sound with pedal on and off. Also, pay attention as to how it affects your lead and rhythm playing. First dial in the tone that fits you at that moment. Listen to what the volume control does as you increase it. Dial in the tone controls, adjust the cut to taste and dial in the master volume and reverb (if its there). I found the Z's to be amazingly dynamic. The fat boost just gives you a bigger sound going into the amp and you do not lose the dynamics one bit. In addition, I get longer sustain with the FB on. Clearly, the FB is not for everyone. I love it. The Weber Silver Bell: All I can say is try it. My preference is Weber speakers. It all comes down to what feels and sounds great. Have fun! Rick
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