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Post by adam on Jul 12, 2021 8:05:08 GMT -7
Neat to hear him playing it against his other amps.
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Post by Russell B on Jul 12, 2021 8:13:22 GMT -7
Didn't Jake E. Lee put a Super Overdrive in front of his Marshalls in the 80s and 90s?
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Post by nmz on Jul 12, 2021 14:03:09 GMT -7
Good demo! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by KeithA on Jul 12, 2021 15:12:15 GMT -7
Didn't Jake E. Lee put a Super Overdrive in front of his Marshalls in the 80s and 90s? I suspect most people did. Some eventually had Jose et. al. do mods to their Marshall’s (to make the amp give up the goods without the pedals) and hence the ‘modded Marshall’ and/or ‘modded Plexi’ phenomenon was born. I think the EMS sounds great is this demo.
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Post by adam on Jul 12, 2021 15:15:59 GMT -7
Didn't Jake E. Lee put a Super Overdrive in front of his Marshalls in the 80s and 90s? I think a lot of people did that with the 800's in the 80's. Zack Wylde was pretty famous for that too.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jul 12, 2021 16:42:07 GMT -7
The Super Overdrive's a great little pedal. I've got a couple of them, one I modded and the other stock. I think it's very underrated.
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Post by Russell B on Jul 13, 2021 5:16:27 GMT -7
Didn't Jake E. Lee put a Super Overdrive in front of his Marshalls in the 80s and 90s? I think a lot of people did that with the 800's in the 80's. Zack Wylde was pretty famous for that too. If I recall, they used them to get more bass in the tone, and not necessarily more gain.
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Post by Russell B on Jul 13, 2021 5:17:06 GMT -7
The Super Overdrive's a great little pedal. I've got a couple of them, one I modded and the other stock. I think it's very underrated. Do you use them to push over driven amps?
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jul 13, 2021 8:17:12 GMT -7
The Super Overdrive's a great little pedal. I've got a couple of them, one I modded and the other stock. I think it's very underrated. Do you use them to push over driven amps? Not much if the amp's heavily driven already, but I like it with an on-the-edge amp setup.
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Post by KeithA on Jul 13, 2021 9:32:31 GMT -7
Based on this video, I've gone out to look at this guys other videos. I really like his presentation style and his playing. His playing style is my guilty pleasure. I really like his video on John Sykes-style playing. I like his run-through of other amps as well. Cool guy.
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Post by adam on Jul 13, 2021 11:25:56 GMT -7
Based on this video, I've gone out to look at this guys other videos. I really like his presentation style and his playing. His playing style is my guilty pleasure. I really like his video on John Sykes-style playing. I like his run-through of other amps as well. Cool guy. He has a video of when he used to play in an Ozzy tribute band which is worth a look. Interesting to me in that he had no interest in copying things note for note, but very much played in the style of those people.
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Post by KeithA on Jul 13, 2021 11:41:07 GMT -7
Based on this video, I've gone out to look at this guys other videos. I really like his presentation style and his playing. His playing style is my guilty pleasure. I really like his video on John Sykes-style playing. I like his run-through of other amps as well. Cool guy. He has a video of when he used to play in an Ozzy tribute band which is worth a look. Interesting to me in that he had no interest in copying things note for note, but very much played in the style of those people. I'll look at his other stuff as well. Funny, after watching the EMS demo I was recommended another of his amp demos from that week (Bogner Helios Eclipse). I actually have an Eclipse and his demo was the best I have ever seen on that amp. EDIT: I just looked at the Ozzy trubute thing.....that's was pretty good!
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Post by adam on Jul 13, 2021 16:10:37 GMT -7
KeithA - I've been watching him since he started the channel. The Eclipse one, I just caught that. Reminded me a little of my Randall bogner module. Nice distortion tone, quite compressed. Same overall vibe to me. Haven't looked at the John Sykes one yet. He's a great player that does that type of stuff extremely well. I love his accent too. I'm just kind of glad I saw someone else playing the amp. It's a killer old Marshally thing and sounds fantastic from pristine clean to over the top 800. I found after doing some of the demo stuff just how magic that completely cranked JTM/beano sound can be, but I didn't crank it enough in the video for that tone. It's another flavor of another super flexible Z amp. That one amp goes all over the place in that vintage Marshall world.
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Post by adam on Jul 13, 2021 16:19:20 GMT -7
I think a lot of people did that with the 800's in the 80's. Zack Wylde was pretty famous for that too. If I recall, they used them to get more bass in the tone, and not necessarily more gain. Less bass (it has a high pass filter built in), more input gain to the amp, and a bit of color from the clipping of the pedal. Personally, I really prefer the Friedman buxom boost for that. It has a lot of clean output volume, variable hi pass. It also costs 3x the money so there's that too. I kind of like the tc boost pedal sometimes in the right amp if I'm being honest, but it doesn't have any control of the low end. Z drive can do that SD thing too, with more control to boot.
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Jul 13, 2021 17:13:28 GMT -7
That’s a great EMS demo. This guy is a great player as well, very tight metal sound. Doesn’t look like the kind of guy you’d want to tangle with either, has that modern day Viking vibe going on. Very cool stuff.
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Post by KeithA on Jul 13, 2021 22:44:13 GMT -7
KeithA - I've been watching him since he started the channel. The Eclipse one, I just caught that. Reminded me a little of my Randall bogner module. Nice distortion tone, quite compressed. Same overall vibe to me. Haven't looked at the John Sykes one yet. He's a great player that does that type of stuff extremely well. I love his accent too. I'm just kind of glad I saw someone else playing the amp. It's a killer old Marshally thing and sounds fantastic from pristine clean to over the top 800. I found after doing some of the demo stuff just how magic that completely cranked JTM/beano sound can be, but I didn't crank it enough in the video for that tone. It's another flavor of another super flexible Z amp. That one amp goes all over the place in that vintage Marshall world. I thought the EMS sounded fantastic.
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Post by KeithA on Jul 15, 2021 8:50:09 GMT -7
I actually went out today and bought one of the 40th Anni SD-1s today (I didn't have an SD-1). I guess that means I need to get an EMS at some point, eh? ...and this is the one video over the years that actually makes me think I NEED one.
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Jul 15, 2021 9:03:05 GMT -7
Yeah, he really makes that EMS scream. And that song he wrote for the video is awesome. Listen a few times now.
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Post by adam on Jul 15, 2021 15:56:15 GMT -7
KeithA - not sure about that version or the Waza version, but they are effective into the right amp/settings. The 800's as I've heard them, and the EMS in 800 mode have mounds of lows or low mids. Sometimes shaving the lows out a bit and adding some gain can really help a sound like that. They are kind of like a tube screamer where the clean part of the signal is really prominent, but different in that the TS sort of has more mids and the DS has a bite in the highs. Do you need an EMS, well, I'm sure don't. But, maybe lost in this whole thing is that it has that fantastic clean Marshall sound built in too, and it has more than enough power to stay clean at any volume you might want. If you are looking for old Marshall type sounds and don't want to worry about the amp breaking down every month, it's an enticing product for sure.
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