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Post by jnovac1 on Jul 5, 2021 9:50:09 GMT -7
all my cabs are open back 2-12. i am not a hard rock guy, i do certainly use some high gain for “seasoning”. currently have 3 cabs- 1. d/13 with cel. blue/greenback 2. todd sharp with blue/g12h30 3. drew goodin diagonal with 2 g12h80 how do we feel about cabs 1&2 assuming that i don’t blast “em? (my ears wouldn’t tolerate that anyway). i’m guessing that i may never get the level past 11 o'clock or so. TIA!
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Jul 5, 2021 10:40:04 GMT -7
I’d bet you’ll end up launching one of your blues. The CAZ seems to be an amp that wants to breathe some. I’d steer clear as blues aren’t cheap and use cab #3.
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Jul 5, 2021 11:45:08 GMT -7
I'd put the greenback in the cab with the G12h30. That's a killer rock combo.
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Post by jnovac1 on Jul 5, 2021 12:14:00 GMT -7
hmmm. could be! all of my cabs have the speakers wired independently to separate jacks, so that’d be easy to test!
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Post by adam on Jul 6, 2021 3:38:56 GMT -7
Let you ears decide! Sometimes I'll play an amp through a cab and the reaction is "I don't like the amp". Then I try a different cab and "I LOVE this amp". The you think that cab sucks, but then you use it with something else and say "I LOVE this cab".
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Post by adam on Jul 6, 2021 3:39:44 GMT -7
I'd put the greenback in the cab with the G12h30. That's a killer rock combo. I've never tried or thought of that. Makes sense. Thanks!
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Post by KeithA on Jul 6, 2021 4:48:25 GMT -7
I'd put the greenback in the cab with the G12h30. That's a killer rock combo. I've never tried or thought of that. Makes sense. Thanks! That's the combination Matchless used to install in their stock 212 cabs as well.
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Post by jnovac1 on Jul 6, 2021 10:14:02 GMT -7
hmmm. could be! all of my cabs have the speakers wired independently to separate jacks, so that’d be easy to test! the plot thickens-my gb is 16 ohm, the g12h30 is 8-any issue with plugging both (at once) into the corresponding jacks on the caz?
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Jul 6, 2021 10:51:53 GMT -7
Is this a 20 watt greenback?
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Jul 6, 2021 11:05:23 GMT -7
hmmm. could be! all of my cabs have the speakers wired independently to separate jacks, so that’d be easy to test! the plot thickens-my gb is 16 ohm, the g12h30 is 8-any issue with plugging both (at once) into the corresponding jacks on the caz? You can never use more than one output jack on an amp, so if you mean plugging the 8 ohm in the 8 ohm tap and the 16 in the 16 at the same time, don't do it! You can run them both with a Y-cable or wired in parallel. Together you will get 5.33 ohms and you can run them safely in the 4 ohm tap. If it is a 20 watt greenback, you should be good to 40 watts of amp, likely more than that, since Celestion rates their speakers pretty conservatively. The caz is a 45 watt amp. With the small ohm mismatch you are likely getting a bit less than 45. If it was me, I'd do it and feel safe, but I ran a 25 watt greenback in a Mesa Mark IIB for a long time and the amp is rated at 60 watts and never had a problem. Do what you feel comfortable with.
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Post by jnovac1 on Jul 6, 2021 12:12:10 GMT -7
the plot thickens-my gb is 16 ohm, the g12h30 is 8-any issue with plugging both (at once) into the corresponding jacks on the caz? You can never use more than one output jack on an amp, so if you mean plugging the 8 ohm in the 8 ohm tap and the 16 in the 16 at the same time, don't do it! You can run them both with a Y-cable or wired in parallel. Together you will get 5.33 ohms and you can run them safely in the 4 ohm tap. If it is a 20 watt greenback, you should be good to 40 watts of amp, likely more than that, since Celestion rates their speakers pretty conservatively. The caz is a 45 watt amp. With the small ohm mismatch you are likely getting a bit less than 45. If it was me, I'd do it and feel safe, but I ran a 25 watt greenback in a Mesa Mark IIB for a long time and the amp is rated at 60 watts and never had a problem. Do what you feel comfortable with. thanks, i read the owners manual (duh). i have a parallel y cable so i’ll do the 4 ohm tap for testing. or just pick up another gb!
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Post by T-R☼CK ♫ on Jul 7, 2021 8:31:18 GMT -7
Let you ears decide! Sometimes I'll play an amp through a cab and the reaction is "I don't like the amp". Then I try a different cab and "I LOVE this amp". The you think that cab sucks, but then you use it with something else and say "I LOVE this cab". EXACTLY
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Post by matte on Jul 24, 2021 11:34:01 GMT -7
Yeah I have a 2061cx cab with g12h30's and it works well with the caz. I think I like my Soldano 412 w/V30's better. The 2061cx is a little lacking in the mids and not as smooth up top. I've been really tempted to swap out at least one of the g12h30's for a greenback. But there's so many variations. I mean in a way the g12h30 is a variation itself, and I guess I'm wanting something with a medium magnet. So I've not done it. Yet. And honestly have always preferred that cab with cleaner settings. Which I rarely use. And to me most speakers can sound pretty good cleaner. It's when you start adding harmonics that you hear the true character of the speaker/cab.
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Post by DocMartin on Jul 29, 2021 12:10:20 GMT -7
How would the CAZ sound through the Dr. Z EMS cab?
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Post by adam on Jul 29, 2021 16:21:06 GMT -7
I looked it up, creamback and g12h. I've never tried that combo! No idea. Maybe someone else can chime in.
I would say that I really like it with my Z 1x12 V30 cab, a splawn 2x12 with alnico cream and v30, 4x12 Marshall with greenbacks, and another 4x12 straight cab with GB & CB. That's a pretty wide range.
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