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Post by bubs42 on Jan 24, 2021 11:27:26 GMT -7
Two knobs people! On occasion I may get board so I go to my stash of speakers and swap the speaker out and have more fun with it.
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Post by GuitarZ on Jan 24, 2021 11:50:41 GMT -7
I'm getting there too. Plus, I just spent time this past week dialing through the various speaker cabs in my UA OX and having fun simply adjusting the tone/volume of the Ghia. So, I'm with you.
It's a nice straight focused and good sound!
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Post by bubs42 on Jan 24, 2021 12:39:53 GMT -7
I love the Ghia more compared to a Marshall 18 watter, the same way I love the Z28 to a Brown Face Deluxe. They are different, and they don't have all the extra stuff that just gets in the way and I wouldn't use anyway. If I want tremolo, i'll use a pedal, if I want reverb i'll use the Z Verb.
I'm still going around about what the VOX'ish equivalent is in this range. I'm guessing its the RXJR. At this point I don't have a tone of money to buy a few more amps to get the one I want. I'll have to make a smart choice.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jan 24, 2021 13:36:49 GMT -7
Two knobs, two words...Ghias rule.
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Post by bubs42 on Jan 24, 2021 20:45:37 GMT -7
Imagine if there was a 6V6 Version! LOL
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Post by nmz on Jan 24, 2021 21:40:55 GMT -7
Ghia rocks!
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Post by lowbudget on Jan 24, 2021 21:55:16 GMT -7
Imagine if there was a 6V6 Version! LOL I can’t quite imagine how it could sound any better than what we’ve had for 20+ years, but in any event seems like it’d be a completely different amp.
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Post by nmz on Jan 24, 2021 23:59:42 GMT -7
Imagine if there was a 6V6 Version! LOL I can’t quite imagine how it could sound any better than what we’ve had for 20+ years, but in any event seems like it’d be a completely different amp. It is a good point. If it was 6v6 it wouldn’t be a Ghia.
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Post by DRZ on Jan 25, 2021 5:09:39 GMT -7
Imagine if there was a 6V6 Version! LOL I can’t quite imagine how it could sound any better than what we’ve had for 20+ years, but in any event seems like it’d be a completely different amp. Very true. I did prototype one up, sounded good, but... I still sell the Ghia and have for over 33 years a main staple in my line up. Would I sell a 6V6 variant , probably a few. But a Z 28 sounds much better then a 6V6 Ghia to my ear, and I believe has much better potential . There is much more to product Development , Marketing, and Production than just a wish for a different variation. Z
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Post by bubs42 on Jan 25, 2021 8:51:38 GMT -7
My Ghia and the Z28 are not going anywhere. If I want a different sound, or I just need a change, I swap a speaker out or use a different cab. I do completely see you point of view Doc and you make some rock solid points. I guess the only question is, is the Ghia Too Good? LOL
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jan 25, 2021 8:58:55 GMT -7
Can't get too much of a good thing!
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Post by runninwiththerevil (Matthew) on Jan 25, 2021 9:10:03 GMT -7
Bubs, sounds like your interested in a 6v6 with the simplicity of a Ghia. Have you looked into a product like the Yellow Jacket tube converters? I don't know if they make one that plugs into an el84 socket for a 6v6 tube.
I bought a pair of these for my first tube amp way back in the day, a Hot Rod Deluxe. Because they didn't use a tapered audio pot for the volume it was impossible to not be at unusable volumes for church because the jump from 1 to 2 on the dial was way too much. I think I got the Yellow Jackets that let me use el84's instead of the 6l6's. It cut the over all power enough to make it usable. Ultimately I moved on from that amp for something lower power and a better sweep with the volume knob. They worked fine, but I didn't have enough of an ear for amps, nor would I even remember at this point, how it might have changed the character of the amp.
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Post by John on Jan 26, 2021 5:09:44 GMT -7
I do believe the subject of Yellow Jackets came up on the forum years ago. If I remember correctly, Doc said something like:
"If you use those 'firecrackers' they'll void your warranty."
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Post by GuitarZ on Jan 26, 2021 8:28:16 GMT -7
I was going to say I don't want to take this further off topic, but I think it might not be.
I picked up some Yellow Jackets for my '81 Marshall 50 watt master volume thinking it might get me into my Ghia territory. I would say they didn't. They just made the Marshall a bit softer in volume, tone, and focus. Basically, they changed its personality to something that was, well, a little boring. The Marshall 'as is' and my Ghia both have great personalities.
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Post by bubs42 on Jan 26, 2021 11:45:00 GMT -7
I'm pretty darn happen with the Ghia, I have mine set up with a NOS 5v4, 5751 and love it. The 6v6 started with just a question, and if Doc tried it and didn't like it, then its a dead issue. I'll just keep using my Z28 for my for 6v6 tones. I got bottled up with the M12 being the next amp I was going to get and after making a decision on which one I froze. My wife put it best when she said "You've had a million amps and if your second guessing yourself just wait, another on will come along". My next Z needs to not overlap with the other two, and push my boundaries a bit.
That being said, I would fall over myself for a V1 Mazerati. I know if I start gigging again, which has been betting closer to reality lately, I want one or the Anniversary. The cleaner, more headroom will be perfect match in comparison to what I used to use.
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Post by DRZ on Jan 26, 2021 12:36:00 GMT -7
I'm pretty darn happen with the Ghia, I have mine set up with a NOS 5v4, 5751 and love it. The 6v6 started with just a question, and if Doc tried it and didn't like it, then its a dead issue. I'll just keep using my Z28 for my for 6v6 tones. I got bottled up with the M12 being the next amp I was going to get and after making a decision on which one I froze. My wife put it best when she said "You've had a million amps and if your second guessing yourself just wait, another on will come along". My next Z needs to not overlap with the other two, and push my boundaries a bit. That being said, I would fall over myself for a V1 Mazerati. I know if I start gigging again, which has been betting closer to reality lately, I want one or the Anniversary. The cleaner, more headroom will be perfect match in comparison to what I used to use. I didn't say " I didn't like it " re: the 6V6 Ghia. I said it was different and I felt the Z 28 sounded much better then a 6V6 Ghia. Just trying to get the conversations correct regarding marketing a two 6V6 small amp. It was a cool idea bubs and it was your idea , thanks. Z
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Post by bubs42 on Jan 27, 2021 9:25:27 GMT -7
I'm pretty darn happen with the Ghia, I have mine set up with a NOS 5v4, 5751 and love it. The 6v6 started with just a question, and if Doc tried it and didn't like it, then its a dead issue. I'll just keep using my Z28 for my for 6v6 tones. I got bottled up with the M12 being the next amp I was going to get and after making a decision on which one I froze. My wife put it best when she said "You've had a million amps and if your second guessing yourself just wait, another on will come along". My next Z needs to not overlap with the other two, and push my boundaries a bit. That being said, I would fall over myself for a V1 Mazerati. I know if I start gigging again, which has been betting closer to reality lately, I want one or the Anniversary. The cleaner, more headroom will be perfect match in comparison to what I used to use. I didn't say " I didn't like it " re: the 6V6 Ghia. I said it was different and I felt the Z 28 sounded much better then a 6V6 Ghia. Just trying to get the conversations correct regarding marketing a two 6V6 small amp. It was a cool idea bubs and it was your idea , thanks. Z Dibs on the prototype, don't let Mike end up with my amp! All in fun LOL. I absolutely understand your position, we just keep pining for more more more!
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jan 27, 2021 10:11:09 GMT -7
Dibs on the prototype, don't let Mike end up with my amp! All in fun LOL. I absolutely understand your position, we just keep pining for more more more! More, more, more looks like 50+ Zs with very little overlap.
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Post by eggman on Jan 29, 2021 22:13:12 GMT -7
Howdy,
Despite all the differences, I liken the outstanding Carmen Ghia to the Silverface Vibro Champ. Both yield good clean tones and excel for nasty, gutbucket raunch! So versatile.
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Post by anton on Feb 5, 2021 7:51:12 GMT -7
I'm loving my Ghia, its not going anywhere. As someone that plays with their fingers alot the touch sensitivity and string separation of the Ghia are great. I sent it to the Doc a while back for a check up and to have a master volume installed. Now its even more flexible, and a bit better for home volume playing. It had a Weber Alnico Blue Dog in it when I bought it, which sounded nice. I recently put in a Weber 1225, their Greenback clone, which I am liking alot.
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Post by bubs42 on Feb 5, 2021 14:13:22 GMT -7
I'm loving my Ghia, its not going anywhere. As someone that plays with their fingers alot the touch sensitivity and string separation of the Ghia are great. I sent it to the Doc a while back for a check up and to have a master volume installed. Now its even more flexible, and a bit better for home volume playing. It had a Weber Alnico Blue Dog in it when I bought it, which sounded nice. I recently put in a Weber 1225, their Greenback clone, which I am liking alot. The greenback is really good with a Ghia. I'm not much of a low wattage Greenback guys, bu the Ghia loves that speaker.
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Post by bubs42 on Feb 10, 2021 16:40:47 GMT -7
Ran the ZVerb and a touch of delay into the Ghia today, and man was that fantastic.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Feb 11, 2021 14:25:23 GMT -7
Ran the ZVerb and a touch of delay into the Ghia today, and man was that fantastic. I'm glad you're getting good use out of the Z-Verb. It's the best, I just don't use enough reverb to have justified it. I use just enough to make me think it might be there. The Z-Verb will wash you in reverb, it's the best I've ever heard or used.
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Post by bubs42 on Feb 12, 2021 8:40:34 GMT -7
Ran the ZVerb and a touch of delay into the Ghia today, and man was that fantastic. I'm glad you're getting good use out of the Z-Verb. It's the best, I just don't use enough reverb to have justified it. I use just enough to make me think it might be there. The Z-Verb will wash you in reverb, it's the best I've ever heard or used.
I have not been able to go back to a Reverb pedal yet. The only change I made was swapping out the 12ax7 for a 12at7. The Verb comes on a tad later and too me, more useful.
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Post by trickyboy11 on Feb 24, 2021 18:51:00 GMT -7
I just scored a 2011 1x10 combo and I've gotta say, I'm really thinking I agree with the title of this post. I've performed for years with an M12, but I think this is going to take over. A Strat just sings straight into it. I keep the volume pegged on 10 and use the guitar volume to clean it up. Add very minimal pedal board and there's really nothing I can't do.
Fantastic amp!
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Post by texjam on Feb 24, 2021 23:09:17 GMT -7
If it aint broke, don't fix it.
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Post by John on Feb 25, 2021 6:39:30 GMT -7
I just scored a 2011 1x10 combo and I've gotta say, I'm really thinking I agree with the title of this post. I've performed for years with an M12, but I think this is going to take over. A Strat just sings straight into it. I keep the volume pegged on 10 and use the guitar volume to clean it up. Add very minimal pedal board and there's really nothing I can't do. Fantastic amp!
What speaker?
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Post by lowbudget on Feb 25, 2021 7:53:33 GMT -7
I just scored a 2011 1x10 combo and I've gotta say, I'm really thinking I agree with the title of this post. I've performed for years with an M12, but I think this is going to take over. A Strat just sings straight into it. I keep the volume pegged on 10 and use the guitar volume to clean it up. Add very minimal pedal board and there's really nothing I can't do. Fantastic amp!
What speaker?
Long as we’re asking, by “pegged on 10” do you mean you keep the volume wide open or at 10 am on the knob? Kinda different things...
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Post by GuitarZ on Feb 25, 2021 8:35:24 GMT -7
Long as we’re asking, by “pegged on 10” do you mean you keep the volume wide open or at 10 am on the knob? Kinda different things... I'm assuming he means "pegged". That's where my Ghia stays. I only adjust the tone when switching between my Strat and Les Paul. I agree with the "singing" part. Thank You Dr Z for the AirBrake to allow me to run my Ghia Pegged!
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Post by runninwiththerevil (Matthew) on Feb 25, 2021 12:54:26 GMT -7
At one time I would have agreed with you. Then I meet Maz.
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