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Post by bubs42 on Jan 24, 2021 11:25:12 GMT -7
Just wondering, thought maybe I would try it. New speakers are cheaper than new amps for a different sound.
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Post by GuitarZ on Jan 24, 2021 12:10:35 GMT -7
What are you using now? What's your reference point?
I just spent the last week dialing through speakers & cabs via my UA Ox with my Ghia and Maz Jr. Long story short is that I kept the mic'ing set up pretty consistent so that I was comparing/listening to the speakers/cabs vs mics, EQ, etc. It finally afforded me a way to appreciate the speakers. The V's felt more Rock & Roll and Lead Guitar to me. The Ox has a bunch of greenbacks, creambacks, etc. The V's had a little more crispness. I was surprised that the cabs made a difference as the Ox has a 4x12 Celestion Cab and something like a 4x12 Mesa Boogie(?) cab (both closed). The Mesa was a little fuller if I recall. Both V configs are going to be options for me.
With all that said, my 'go to' speaker is the Greenback. So, that's my reference.
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Post by sharkboy on Jan 24, 2021 12:33:10 GMT -7
I have an Orange cab with a single v30, that I kinda felt forced to take in trade. I’ve never really been enamored of it, but a few years ago, I brought it with my D*mble clone to a friend’s house and was very surprised how good it sounded- especially loud and clean with a Les Paul. Honestly, it was refreshing, since I have never been a big LP or v30 fan.
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Post by mrcapers on Jan 24, 2021 14:43:04 GMT -7
The V-Type is a great little speaker. Almost like a V30, except without as much upper mid spike. Also a little softer response and a little less efficient so the amp can work harder.
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Post by GuitarZ on Jan 24, 2021 15:05:37 GMT -7
The V-Type is a great little speaker. Almost like a V30, ... Thanks for the clarification v-type vs v30. I just learned something. Didn’t realize there was a new speaker. Erase what I said since I was talking V30. 😀
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Jan 24, 2021 16:41:50 GMT -7
Just wondering, thought maybe I would try it. New speakers are cheaper than new amps for a different sound. I've got a V-type in one of my Vox-style combos (has a higher-gain second channel) and I love it. I think the V-Type is a GREAT speaker--and not just "for the price" but just as a speaker period. One nice thing, for me, about the V-Type is that it's got a relatively small magnet which means the sensitivity (efficiency) is low. This keeps the overall volume in check, and allows me to open the amp up a little more. As far as the tone, it's like a G12 Gold, Vintage 30, and Greenback all mixed into one. I've also raved about this speaker before--you can read a lot of my previous posts here: ztalk.proboards.com/post/813198/threadand here ztalk.proboards.com/post/897888/threadand here ztalk.proboards.com/post/915717/thread
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Post by bubs42 on Jan 24, 2021 16:44:50 GMT -7
The V-Type is a great little speaker. Almost like a V30, except without as much upper mid spike. Also a little softer response and a little less efficient so the amp can work harder. Ok, that makes sense. I have watched some videos, and your description makes sense. I dig my greenback, V30, 1265, and some eminence speakers, and tone tubby's. I wanted to try one when it came out and just didn't get around to it, now they are releasing the NEO version of it and at some point I want to put a 2x12 together. I like a 2x12, but I don't like carrying them. LOL
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Post by Russell B on Jan 24, 2021 17:10:10 GMT -7
I use the V30 with my CAZ and Therapy. It really does a great job in my rock band.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jan 24, 2021 18:04:58 GMT -7
The V30 got a bad rap for being too 'peaky' but in a band that's what you need to help cut through the mix. The V-Type as described by Mark above sounds interesting, especially that it's a little lower efficiency and you can crank the amp up a bit more to get the goods flowing. Like I need more speakers around here, but I may have to give one of these a try. There's room for one more in the closet!
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Post by Russell B on Jan 24, 2021 18:07:06 GMT -7
The V-Type is a great little speaker. Almost like a V30, ... Thanks for the clarification v-type vs v30. I just learned something. Didn’t realize there was a new speaker. Erase what I said since I was talking V30. 😀 I didn’t read enough of these comments. Sorry.
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Post by bubs42 on Jan 26, 2021 11:18:14 GMT -7
I think i've talked myself into waiting for the NEO to come out. Sweetwater already has the pre order available, and if i'm going to try something different, it might as well be different. LOL My Mather "Shorty" cabs are made of pine and super duper light compared to the Dr Z Cabs. A Neo may just send it over the top.
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Post by bubs42 on Mar 15, 2021 20:19:40 GMT -7
I purchased a Ceramic V Type and love it. It’s like a Greenback and a G12H30 had a baby. I’ve been running those two side by side and this speaker has that sound in one speaker. Super happy with it.
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Post by bubs42 on Apr 20, 2021 17:26:44 GMT -7
THe V-Type has stuck and I’m really digging it. It lets the Ghia push it around nicely, but it also stays together while the Route 66 is punishing it. I just ordered 2 of the VT JR 10’s, they will be here Thursday.
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Post by bubs42 on Apr 22, 2021 18:35:13 GMT -7
THey arrived today, I installed them in my Shorty Clone. First run through was great, brighter, more clear than the Red Fangs, great string to string separation. I’ll compare them to the Dr Z Speakers tomorrow and give a full report. These speakers and a pine cabinet make a seriously light package.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Apr 22, 2021 18:46:31 GMT -7
Hey, bubs, I'm curious how you think the 10" VT-Junior speakers compare to the 12" V-Type? That 12-inch one is a fantastic, versatile speaker that competes WAY above its price point. And I loved it best with the Ghia. Kind of thinking that a Ghia in the small 10" combo cab with a VT-Jr could be a really, really fun (and portable!) setup.
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Post by lowbudget on Apr 22, 2021 18:48:04 GMT -7
THey arrived today, I installed them in my Shorty Clone. First run through was great, brighter, more clear than the Red Fangs, great string to string separation. I’ll compare them to the Dr Z Speakers tomorrow and give a full report. These speakers and a pine cabinet make a seriously light package. Bubs, I’m sorry but I’m a little lost here. Are your 10” V-Types neos?
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Post by bubs42 on Apr 22, 2021 19:21:17 GMT -7
These are the standard VT JR’s. No Neo’s that I know of in the 10’s. They are 50 watts each, but like the V Type use a smaller magnet. I will take my V Type and put it in the matching 1x12 Shorty tomorrow and give you a apples to apples comparison. The V Type with a Ghia is killer, but then being able to use it with the 66 and it handles the bottom well was icing on the cake. Full report tomorrow.
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Post by bubs42 on May 10, 2021 20:16:52 GMT -7
I had one empty spot in mymather shorty, so I bought another V Type. It has yet to disappoint me. Great Bottom, chimey but never harsh top end, and the midrange is just right.
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Post by Faze on May 11, 2021 17:14:30 GMT -7
I had one empty spot in mymather shorty, so I bought another V Type. It has yet to disappoint me. Great Bottom, chimey but never harsh top end, and the midrange is just right. I have the Marshall SV20C and it has a 10 inch V type and it sounds like a 12 inch speaker its incredible. I was very reluctant and hesitant about that speaker because I don't like the V30. However the V type is a completely different voiced speaker its like a cross between the V30 and a greenback. It works great in my combo.
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Post by helmi on May 11, 2021 17:55:10 GMT -7
I had one empty spot in mymather shorty, so I bought another V Type. It has yet to disappoint me. Great Bottom, chimey but never harsh top end, and the midrange is just right. I have the Marshall SV20C and it has a 10 inch V type and it sounds like a 12 inch speaker its incredible. That wonderful sounding amp needs a 4x10 or 4x12 under it! lol
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Post by John on May 12, 2021 5:55:15 GMT -7
I have the Marshall SV20C
I wish Marshall would have made this amp 40 years ago. I'm not in the market for an amp, but this sure does interest me. (I'm a 4 input Marshall fan boy)
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Post by Faze on May 12, 2021 8:20:25 GMT -7
I have the Marshall SV20C
I wish Marshall would have made this amp 40 years ago. I'm not in the market for an amp, but this sure does interest me. (I'm a 4 input Marshall fan boy)
I tried the head/cab and honestly thought the combo sounded better. One thing for sure even at 10 watts its loud! You would never know its a 10 inch speaker in that combo. It sounds big like a 12. The amp also sounds and feels like a Plexi it has that classic sound. It also has an effects loop and a direct out for recording. I am very happy with it! I would have never thought I would like a combo over a head/cab but times are changing. They did a shoot out at Marshall with this combo and one had a 12 inch speaker and the other a 10 and everyone in the room chose the one with the 10 inch speaker. The V type speaker sounds perfect in it.
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Post by LT on Aug 3, 2021 15:15:08 GMT -7
I'm about to pull the trigger on the 10" V for my Champ II (Rivera era). I have the Emi Lil Buddy in there now and I like it, but the lower efficiency and lighter weight of the V is appealing (plus you guys have convinced me to give it a go).
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Post by bubs42 on Aug 4, 2021 5:23:48 GMT -7
I'm about to pull the trigger on the 10" V for my Champ II (Rivera era). I have the Emi Lil Buddy in there now and I like it, but the lower efficiency and lighter weight of the V is appealing (plus you guys have convinced me to give it a go). Is there something you don’t like about the little buddy? The VT Jr is a great speaker, my 2x10 Pine Mathers “shorty” is a seriously light grab and go.
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Post by LT on Aug 4, 2021 6:41:56 GMT -7
I'm about to pull the trigger on the 10" V for my Champ II (Rivera era). I have the Emi Lil Buddy in there now and I like it, but the lower efficiency and lighter weight of the V is appealing (plus you guys have convinced me to give it a go). Is there something you don’t like about the little buddy? The VT Jr is a great speaker, my 2x10 Pine Mathers “shorty” is a seriously light grab and go. Not really. I just thought I'd go for the lighter weight and lower efficiency (that amp is LOUD). I might still keep the Lil Buddy in there. For $65 I thought it was worth a listen.
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Post by bubs42 on Aug 4, 2021 20:11:18 GMT -7
You won’t be disappointed.
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Post by macdaddy on Aug 5, 2021 6:14:24 GMT -7
I just swapped out the stock V30 for a V type in a 1X12 Z cab with a Z 28 head . I liked it immediately , thought it was an noticeable improvement and I like the V30
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Post by LT on Aug 6, 2021 16:16:41 GMT -7
You won’t be disappointed. Installed it today and immediately liked it. I backed down the bass one number and it tightened right up. No change to the treble control. Lighter weight is a plus. I haven't used it in a band situation yet but the lower efficiency should be welcomed....this lil amp has always been LOUD!
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Post by bubs42 on Aug 6, 2021 17:50:09 GMT -7
That’s great news!
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Post by Faze on Aug 6, 2021 18:47:05 GMT -7
You won’t be disappointed. Installed it today and immediately liked it. I backed down the bass one number and it tightened right up. No change to the treble control. Lighter weight is a plus. I haven't used it in a band situation yet but the lower efficiency should be welcomed....this lil amp has always been LOUD! Its will get warmer once it breaks in. It gets even better. I am glad you like it Lou!
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