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Post by robot poet on Sept 15, 2020 8:40:21 GMT -7
Anyone been in the same room with or otherwise played both of these amps?
I have a couple of the Fargens and they’re great but only 25w.
So I’d like to pick up a 50w for more headroom if needed, and the EMS is an obvious choice. Plus, in YT clips there’s some distinctive thing in the upper mids that I hear in the EMS that I love. But that’s a YT vid, not sure if it’s real.
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Post by purpletele on Sept 15, 2020 18:33:46 GMT -7
I have owned the EMS and I have played Fargen's Olde 800.
In fact he modified one of my 50 Watt Plexi's to give it the Olde 800 chewy grind.
The EMS is a classic Marshall Sound with a lot of room for tone variation. You will definitely gain much more head room with the EMS.
Not sure about the Upper Mids thing.
I think you can justify buying the EMS for additional tonal opportunity.
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Post by robot poet on Sept 18, 2020 8:42:33 GMT -7
I have owned the EMS and I have played Fargen's Olde 800. In fact he modified one of my 50 Watt Plexi's to give it the Olde 800 chewy grind. The EMS is a classic Marshall Sound with a lot of room for tone variation. You will definitely gain much more head room with the EMS. Not sure about the Upper Mids thing. I think you can justify buying the EMS for additional tonal opportunity. I've sent one of the Olde 800s back to Benjamin for a 50w retrofit. Still very interested in an EMS; hopefully I'll find a nice price on a used one before my GAS threshold is reached and I pull out the credit card on a new one.
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Post by pcns on Sept 18, 2020 17:55:41 GMT -7
I have not seen very many EMS for sale used.
I own one and my son plays it for hours every day.
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Post by Norrin Radd on Sept 18, 2020 18:42:04 GMT -7
Mine was going to be for sale, and I decided before I sell it, I need to play it a little bit more. That was months ago. Now, it is definitely not for sale!
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Post by robot poet on Oct 4, 2020 12:30:31 GMT -7
I have not seen very many EMS for sale used. I own one and my son plays it for hours every day. I finally found one used, which should be here late in the week. I'm also expecting one of my Fargen Olde 800s back from Ben after getting converted to 50w. So I'll be able to do a direct comparison.
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Post by jeffmp on Oct 6, 2020 17:33:34 GMT -7
i’d like to see what you think! Please post! And mine is here to stay also!
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Post by robot poet on Oct 13, 2020 9:11:24 GMT -7
i’d like to see what you think! Please post! And mine is here to stay also! They're _here_ ...
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Post by wraparound (Steve) on Oct 13, 2020 11:33:19 GMT -7
A close friend of mine used to just stare at packages like that, have a cup of coffee and a cigarette and lengthen the anticipation of delivered items. Ha, not me, gotta open 'em up then stare sans the ciggys.
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Post by robot poet on Oct 18, 2020 14:49:03 GMT -7
i’d like to see what you think! Please post! And mine is here to stay also! I was able to get a first impression, running both in JCM 800 mode with preamp gain around 11:00 and master volume around 2:00 - into a Suhr RL IR using IR 1.3 (Suhr 4x12 with G12M SM57 "Fat Celestion", 0 db boost, hi-cut off) into a Focusrite 8i6, into Logic audio track. I'm not going to post a detailed first impression, because: 1) The Fargen is a new amp (I bought it direct in November 2019) and just converted from 25w to 50w. Tubes, etc. are all in great shape. 2) The EMS was noisy and relatively flat in a way that made me think the tubes were beat, so I've ordered new tubes and will A/B test again once I get them installed and biased. Next weekend, I'm thinking.
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Post by Seńor Verde on Oct 18, 2020 17:28:33 GMT -7
Looking forward to your report!
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Post by robot poet on Nov 8, 2020 12:22:36 GMT -7
Looking forward to your report! Since my most recent gigs have been in a RATM tribute, I thought I'd do my first comparison clips using a simple chord vamp with the amps set up for JCM 800. Settings are in the pictures below. Signal was guitar (93 Tele, Ron Ellis pickups, bridge pickup) => through my "small" RATM board / nothing on except the Mesa buffer => amp => Suhr RL IR (selected IR 1.3 : 4x12 G12M GBs, SM57) => Logic. No EQ other than amp, and no effects. Fargen 50w Olde 800 80s decadeEMS JCM800
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Post by robot poet on Nov 8, 2020 13:47:15 GMT -7
i’d like to see what you think! Please post! And mine is here to stay also! Please see ^^^ The EMS has something nice happening in the upper mids. I'm pretty sure I can get the Fargen to cough that up too. Will play around with it later today.
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