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Post by Russell B on Sept 6, 2020 8:21:26 GMT -7
Some where on the Z-Wreck Jr page, I've discussed the difference (to my ears) between the Gold and the Greenback with the Jr. At the time, I had the Gold in my Cure just to see how it would make it sound. For a couple of months, I've been wanting to put the original Z speaker back in the Cure and I did so yesterday. So, what to do with this well broken in Gold? I decided to give it a tried in the Jr combo cab itself.
It does not disappoint. It brings a presence and a sparkle that the Greenback just can't do. It also has this percussive nature that I've always loved about it. My Therapy has always loved it. Heck, I thought it sounded good in the Cure too.
Anyway, it's just an experiment. I won't really know anything about it until I get it in a band situation, which might be next weekend.
Has anyone else tried a Gold with the Wreck Jr?
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Post by joe.h on Sept 6, 2020 10:42:09 GMT -7
please keep us posted Russell it sounds like what i am looking for.but you have to try it in a band situation thanks again
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Post by redtele on Sept 6, 2020 11:50:56 GMT -7
...and just when I thought I was out, you pull me back in!
Looking forward to the rehearsal report.
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Post by KeithA on Sept 6, 2020 12:25:33 GMT -7
When I get My Jr (which is on order) I plan on running it into a 212 with Blues and a 212 with Golds. Curious to see how it turns out.
I'm really curious as to how the 212 Blues will sound.
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Post by Russell B on Sept 6, 2020 13:32:17 GMT -7
When I get My Jr (which is on order) I plan on running it into a 212 with Blues and a 212 with Golds. Curious to see how it turns out. I'm really curious as to how the 212 Blues will sound. My guess is that it would sound great!
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Post by KeithA on Sept 6, 2020 13:53:12 GMT -7
When I get My Jr (which is on order) I plan on running it into a 212 with Blues and a 212 with Golds. Curious to see how it turns out. I'm really curious as to how the 212 Blues will sound. My guess is that it would sound great! I'm thinking the 212 Blues will sound fantastic. Too bad it will be me playing through it
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Post by bryan0418 on Sept 6, 2020 18:35:27 GMT -7
I thought I heard on an earlier thread that the lower wattage of the Z Wreck Jr wasn't enough to push the Gold and get all of the goods out of the speaker. The Greenback was chosen to ht a price point and it sounded good as well.
I am kind of surprised that there was no talk of making an Alnico speaker an option. I have never tried it but I wonder how the Celestion Ruby would sound in a Jr.
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Post by Russell B on Sept 6, 2020 19:46:42 GMT -7
The Ruby will probably sound great in the Z-Wreck Jr! As far as the Gold, I think I remember Doc talking about how the Blue didn’t have enough bass, but the Gold did. The Greenback was use for its similar tone and price point. It’s sounds great too, by the way.
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Post by Russell B on Sept 9, 2020 15:38:22 GMT -7
Well, that didn’t last long. I was able crank up the Jr with the Gold in it. It’s not the same as the Greenback with the gain up. The Greenback went back in.
Next...
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Post by joe.h on Sept 9, 2020 16:26:01 GMT -7
So what did it sound like the gold
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Post by Russell B on Sept 9, 2020 16:38:41 GMT -7
So what did it sound like the gold It sounded really good, but the Greenback sounds better, especially with the gain up. I guess the Greenback was putting out a little distortion on its own.
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Post by redtele on Sept 9, 2020 23:54:04 GMT -7
Thanks for reporting back with your findings, and I have a couple of questions if you don't mind...
Did the fundamental character of the amp change with the gold? I mean was it more Vox-like or had less bass, increased mids, smoother or more strident highs?
The main reason I was thinking of installing a gold was to have less breakup at equivalent gain levels to get it louder and to stay cleaner, and in fact this sounds like what you experienced, but I don't want this to come at the expense of loosing the great sound I have now with the greenback.
I'm actually quite relieved that you wasn't blown away, as I prefer not to tinker with something so near perfect, and rather work 'with it' to get where I want to go, and my wallet thanks you too!
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Post by Russell B on Sept 10, 2020 4:15:15 GMT -7
Thanks for reporting back with your findings, and I have a couple of questions if you don't mind... Did the fundamental character of the amp change with the gold? I mean was it more Vox-like or had less bass, increased mids, smoother or more strident highs? The main reason I was thinking of installing a gold was to have less breakup at equivalent gain levels to get it louder and to stay cleaner, and in fact this sounds like what you experienced, but I don't want this to come at the expense of loosing the great sound I have now with the greenback. I'm actually quite relieved that you wasn't blown away, as I prefer not to tinker with something so near perfect, and rather work 'with it' to get where I want to go, and my wallet thanks you too! For the most part, the speakers sound very similar. I think the Gold "seems" to make the amp cleaner, but it's slight. Perhaps the distortion was smoother with the Greenback than the Gold. At first, I thought there might be a little more presence with the Gold, but I'm not so sure now. Since I'm using the amp for mainly a rock amp at this time, the Greenback sounds the best to my ears. I hope this helps.
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Post by helmi on Sept 10, 2020 5:45:23 GMT -7
Russel, are you loving your "humbucker" equipped guitars through the JR?
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Post by Russell B on Sept 10, 2020 6:33:05 GMT -7
Russel, are you loving your "humbucker" equipped guitars through the JR? I really am. For the longest time I used Strats and Teles until I got a Les Paul in 2017. I'm rotating 3 Les Pauls with the rock band. One LP is tuned to open G, so it always goes (2017 one) For the other one, I either take the Goldtop with P90s, or a recently acquired Heritage H-150. Who knew I would become a Les Paul guy?? My 2 H-535s also sound good through the Jr, but I prefer them through the Cure.
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Post by T-R☼CK ♫ on Sept 10, 2020 7:48:41 GMT -7
Z spends countless hours/days/months testing sh!t B/4 he releases it...
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Post by Russell B on Sept 10, 2020 10:46:10 GMT -7
Z spends countless hours/days/months testing sh!t B/4 he releases it... I know, but one must tinker! lol
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Post by botrb on Sept 10, 2020 14:24:44 GMT -7
I replaced the Greenback with a JBL D-120f and like it much better. I set the Jr on the cleaner side and gain pedals sound better through it especially when using humbuckers.
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Post by T-R☼CK ♫ on Sept 11, 2020 9:37:22 GMT -7
I replaced the Greenback with a JBL D-120f and like it much better. I set the Jr on the cleaner side and gain pedals sound better through it especially when using humbuckers. ... and it weighs as much as a '75 Bro-Ham.
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Post by botrb on Sept 11, 2020 21:26:23 GMT -7
I replaced the Greenback with a JBL D-120f and like it much better. I set the Jr on the cleaner side and gain pedals sound better through it especially when using humbuckers. ... and it weighs as much as a '75 Bro-Ham. I think the D-120 is about 11Lbs so definitely heavier
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Post by oowl on Sept 13, 2021 11:07:12 GMT -7
Thanks for reporting back with your findings, and I have a couple of questions if you don't mind... Did the fundamental character of the amp change with the gold? I mean was it more Vox-like or had less bass, increased mids, smoother or more strident highs? The main reason I was thinking of installing a gold was to have less breakup at equivalent gain levels to get it louder and to stay cleaner, and in fact this sounds like what you experienced, but I don't want this to come at the expense of loosing the great sound I have now with the greenback. I'm actually quite relieved that you wasn't blown away, as I prefer not to tinker with something so near perfect, and rather work 'with it' to get where I want to go, and my wallet thanks you too! in my experience, which admittedly, is not with a Wreck Jr the Gold should give you more lows (particularly low- mid). It is more efficient so should give you a bit more clean headroom (louder before breakup) but hard to say how much. I do think the GB will give you smoother distorted tones. The Gold gets a little harsh with some amps when distorted but, with the right combo of amp and guitar, it will deliver glorious chimy goodness.
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