do i start learning garageband or skip that all together and learn logic?
Any direction and suggestions appreciated
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Post by fallingstarsusa on Jun 29, 2020 11:25:48 GMT -7
I have been using Garageband for as long as there has been a Garageband and have never felt the need to upgrade to Logic. The interface is easy to use, the mic and amp simulations are surprisingly solid, and the basic mixing tools are reasonably robust. The caveat is that I've never used it to record anything more complicated than bass-drums-guitar pop songs. So if the "jump to recording from home" means you're used to doing complicated recordings and mixes on tape in a "real" studio with lots of cool pre-amps and compressors, you may quickly bump into limitations I haven't encountered yet.
As far as the rest of the gear goes--I've always had the best luck just talking to a customer service rep at Sweetwater. It's been a while since I upgraded any of my stuff, so some of these models are old, but I'm currently using: Condenser Mic: Bluebird by Blue Microphones (this is one place to splurge, though, so if you have the scratch, the AKG C414 is a pretty nice mic, especially for vocals) Interface: Apogee Duet (this is where talking to a Sweetwater rep will come in handy. The basic question is what in your budget has the best mic preamps and necessary inputs) Headphones: Sony Professional MDR-7508 Monitors: M-Audio BX5s (Another good thing to talk to a rep about.)
Ok, here are the obligatory questions before the answers.
Are you going to be recording yourself or others? More than one person at a time?
Have you used a mac before?
Do you have any friends who do computer recording? This is an important question because it could steer you towards one kind of DAW vs another. It's easier than ever to share stuff 'cross platform' but you may want to have a "buddy" who can answer your questions.
As to the questions.. - Imac computer ****iMac is a really great computer for recording. If you get one, get the larger 27" screen. Recording on a computer is very visual and the larger screen helps. You need at least 16Mg of RAM to run any of the modern recording software. You can add cheaper aftermarket RAM to all the iMacs from 2017 on. OWC has great deals on RAM and also has videos of how to do it. A post 2017 iMac will have Thunderbolt 3 ports on it. This is a very fast connection and it will help if your interface runs on Thunderbolt 3 also. You are going to need an outboard hard drive to record to. These are not expensive and again, it will help you in the long run to get a drive that is Thunderbolt 3. You need a hard drive that spins at 7200 RPM for recording. 5400 is ok for backup.
- Interface *****There's a lot of good stuff out there. Very good is the Focusrite line. You'll want to know how many things you need to record at once to figure out how many analog inputs with mic pre-amps you need. Also, even if you are working at home alone most the time, try to find an interface with 2 headphone outputs incase you have a friend over. This way you won't have to buy a separate headphone amp. Focusrite interfaces come bundled with Pro Tools First, which is their free introductory DAW.
Better is the stuff from UA. Their interfaces are more expensive but they come with built in processors that run their plugins there off of your computer and allow you to use plugins while recording. They have deals all the time on their plugins and you get some free ones with your purchase. UA also recently introduced their own full fledged DAW which you can download for free if you have one of their Thunderbolt 3 interfaces. It's called LUNA
- good quality headphones ****You need closed back headphones if you are going to be doing anything with a microphone. The AT40x headphones are a great place to start for about $90. They sound great and fit great. They come with 2 detachable cables.
- mics ****Depends on what you are gonna be recording but you can't go wrong with a Dynamic mic, a small diaphragm condenser and a large diaphragm condenser. A ribbon would come later.
- monitors ****Entry level powered monitors have really taken a quality leap in the last 5 years. I recommend the ADAM Audio T Series. Great speakers. Pick the woofer size for your room.
do i start learning garageband or skip that all together and learn logic? ****Like I said above, this really depends on if you have a buddy who's on one system already. If you do, you might want to go that way. Garageband works but for me it's excruciatingly difficult in the "So Easy It's Hard" column. Logic comes with a whole lot of stuff. Software instruments, Drum programs, Plugins. ProTools is the most popular. They offer subscription models. You can also start with their Free version ProTools First. I use ProTools the most. UA's Luna has a whole lot going for it if you decide to go for the UA interface. UA is a very good company.
Post by fallingstarsusa on Jun 29, 2020 12:01:08 GMT -7
Roscoe makes a very good point (actually, all his points are good points) about choosing a recording platform that your friends and bandmates are using. One of the things that makes Garagaband work for me is that it's also the platform the other guys in my band and my closest non-bandmate friend use. We bounce files back and forth on DropBox all the time.
I'll agree with all above. If you decide to ease on in, I'd minimize cost, but don't be cheap on yourself. If you find you will be serious and want to keep doing it, you can then start to upgrade.
I was about to say, if you're serious now, maybe spend a little more. My interface is 12+ years old, my monitors at least 8, and, surprisingly, my sonar software is 11 years old. When thinking through this, most of the gear was my 2nd round. So, the first round gear had a short life. My 2nd round gear is still kicking.
I thought I was in for a major upgrade once Windows 10 hit, but everything's still working, and I have what I need in terms of processing, etc. Have fun!
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