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Post by Papa Juan (lanier816) on Apr 26, 2020 10:17:56 GMT -7
Are there actual tonal differences from 4-8-16ohms? Even with the same speaker like an 8ohm Blue vs a 16ohm Blue or are the the ohm differences designed specifically for using more than one speaker at a time or various combinations (series/parallel)?
Reason I ask is I’ve seen threads and discussions where guys are looking to run a 4ohm speaker instead of an 8ohm, even in a 1x12 set up. Let me know what you think and what I’m missing?
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Post by purpletele on Apr 26, 2020 10:31:40 GMT -7
Are there actual tonal differences from 4-8-16ohms? Even with the same speaker like an 8ohm Blue vs a 16ohm Blue or are the the ohm differences designed specifically for using more than one speaker at a time or various combinations (series/parallel)? Reason I ask is I’ve seen threads and discussions where guys are looking to run a 4ohm speaker instead of an 8ohm, even in a 1x12 set up. Let me know what you think and what I’m missing? I don't think you are missing anything. Cork sniffers. I have tried to discern the difference between an 8 Ohm speaker and a 16 Ohm and to me it's negligible at best. I have been buying 16 Ohm speakers so I can have equivalency throughout. My clams far outweigh any tonal deficiencies.
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Post by John on Apr 26, 2020 12:13:51 GMT -7
Reason I ask is I’ve seen threads and discussions where guys are looking to run a 4ohm speaker instead of an 8ohm, even in a 1x12 set up. Let me know what you think and what I’m missing?
How do I put this politely?
Most of the time, these guys would be better off practicing the guitar.
They spend hours and hours of time, dwelling over things that are meaningless. The interwebs are full of people talking about the fine points of guitar tone. Then when you hear them play, you realize they're not very good.
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Post by Papa Juan (lanier816) on Apr 26, 2020 12:29:01 GMT -7
Reason I ask is I’ve seen threads and discussions where guys are looking to run a 4ohm speaker instead of an 8ohm, even in a 1x12 set up. Let me know what you think and what I’m missing?
How do I put this politely?
Most of the time, these guys would be better off practicing the guitar.
They spend hours and hours of time, dwelling over things that are meaningless. The interwebs are full of people talking about the fine points of guitar tone. Then when you hear them play, you realize they're not very good.
Hahaha!! Exactly. I agree but was curious if there was some untapped tone factor I was missing out on.
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Post by helmi on Apr 26, 2020 12:32:32 GMT -7
Reason I ask is I’ve seen threads and discussions where guys are looking to run a 4ohm speaker instead of an 8ohm, even in a 1x12 set up. Let me know what you think and what I’m missing?
How do I put this politely?
Most of the time, these guys would be better off practicing the guitar.
They spend hours and hours of time, dwelling over things that are meaningless. The interwebs are full of people talking about the fine points of guitar tone. Then when you hear them play, you realize they're not very good.
Don’t hold back John, tell us how you REALLY feel! (It was a valid ? though) lol
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Post by John on Apr 26, 2020 13:27:41 GMT -7
]Don’t hold back John, tell us how you REALLY feel! (It was a valid ? though) lol
And get off my lawn!
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Post by pcns on Apr 26, 2020 14:44:10 GMT -7
I like to buy 16ohm speakers when ever possible because it easier to combine them with other speakers. 2 16 ohm speakers in parallel give you 8ohm and most any amp can safely run at 8ohms. However, most of the time I run with a single combo cab amp so it doesn't really matter.
I can't say that I've even been able to hear a difference in tone but that could just be my ears. I can't help but wonder if the affective frequency response range of different impedance speakers would change. It could be interesting to see a frequency response graph of a 8ohm and 16ohm speaker of the same make and model and see if it changes at all.
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Post by buckeye on Apr 27, 2020 14:56:13 GMT -7
I recently built a 2x12 cab loaded with 8 ohm speakers. I installed a "Plug and Play" jack which allows for 4 ohms parallel and 16 ohms series. I cannot tell the difference with these old ears.
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Post by GuitarZ on Apr 27, 2020 15:49:51 GMT -7
The young engineer in me would have said "There has to be a difference since the windings are different." The elder engineer would say "True. But, if you can't hear it, what is the actual difference young grasshopper?" The young grasshopper would have probably shot back "That's because your ears are burnt out from all of that loud Rock & Roll!"
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Post by pcns on Apr 29, 2020 7:21:45 GMT -7
The young engineer in me would have said "There has to be a difference since the windings are different." The elder engineer would say "True. But, if you can't hear it, what is the actual difference young grasshopper?" The young grasshopper would have probably shot back "That's because your ears are burnt out from all of that loud Rock & Roll!" funny you might be onto something! I have an 18 year old son Josh and it is I teresting to "hear" his perspective on tone. He does hear things differently than me but it's not always what I would expect. Whenever we change things with our set ups, cables, speakers, tubes, pedal or pickups I will do blind tests with him as much as possible. It is always interesting to hear what he picks out.
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