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Post by smokey0911 on Mar 5, 2020 11:53:04 GMT -7
Does anyone know the exact (or close to) number amp of when Dr. Z changed to the Zero Loss effects loop in the Nova? Seems like I heard something about Z using a different loop in several of the early amps and changed to the Zero Loss on down the line. Thanks for any info. Keith
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Post by doctorice on Mar 5, 2020 15:24:22 GMT -7
I can't answer directly, Keith, but my Nova is #4, and I had Z retrofit the Metro loop.
Added: I got the amp late September 2018, and the loop install was late Jan./early Feb. 2019.
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Post by moe15 on Mar 7, 2020 17:25:34 GMT -7
I can't answer directly, Keith, but my Nova is #4, and I had Z retrofit the Metro loop.
Added: I got the amp late September 2018, and the loop install was late Jan./early Feb. 2019.
Could you tell the difference between the two loops??
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Post by doctorice on Mar 7, 2020 19:30:26 GMT -7
I can't answer directly, Keith, but my Nova is #4, and I had Z retrofit the Metro loop.
Added: I got the amp late September 2018, and the loop install was late Jan./early Feb. 2019.
Could you tell the difference between the two loops?? Yes, I was having an issue with a particular effect (Strymon Flint) in the original loop. Totally fine with the Metro.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Mar 8, 2020 6:53:21 GMT -7
I've got #2 so it doesn't have the Metro loop either, but I never use a loop anyway. I thought about sending it in for a retrofit but it's not going to make the amp sound any better with no loop effects, so it's kinda redundant...unless the basic tone improved.
Mike, you didn't notice any difference in tone without effects, did you?
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Post by doctorice on Mar 8, 2020 7:48:06 GMT -7
Mike, you didn't notice any difference in tone without effects, did you? Nope.
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Post by moe15 on Mar 8, 2020 8:20:23 GMT -7
Does anyone know the exact (or close to) number amp of when Dr. Z changed to the Zero Loss effects loop in the Nova? Seems like I heard something about Z using a different loop in several of the early amps and changed to the Zero Loss on down the line. Thanks for any info. Keith I've been thinking of getting a Nova, but would want the Metro Loop have a Strymon El Capistan i wanted to use. I would hate to buy a new amp and not have the latest options.
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Post by doctorice on Mar 8, 2020 10:01:27 GMT -7
I've been thinking of getting a Nova, but would want the Metro Loop have a Strymon El Capistan i wanted to use. I would hate to buy a new amp and not have the latest options.
A few thoughts:
1. You could check with Z and inquire when the changed loop went into production and, maybe, what serial number was the last with the old loop.
2. The spacing on the send and return jacks differs. I'm not with my Nova at the moment, but I'm pretty sure the Metro loop (the new loop) has more distance between the jacks than the original factory loop. 3. There may have been a post showing the amp guts with the old and new loops.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Mar 8, 2020 10:04:15 GMT -7
Does anyone know the exact (or close to) number amp of when Dr. Z changed to the Zero Loss effects loop in the Nova? Seems like I heard something about Z using a different loop in several of the early amps and changed to the Zero Loss on down the line. Thanks for any info. Keith I've been thinking of getting a Nova, but would want the Metro Loop have a Strymon El Capistan i wanted to use. I would hate to buy a new amp and not have the latest options. A quick email or call to the shop would let you know. I'm pretty sure that any amps out there in brand new selling condition have the Metro loop. It was instigated only several months or so that the amp was introduced. Not sure if there's anything on the back plate that says whether or not it has the Metro, but I know that the spacing between the jacks is different. Mine measures 2" center to center of the in/out loop jacks without the Metro. Hope that helps.
EDIT: Haha, Mike was posting at the same time I was!
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Post by LT on Mar 8, 2020 14:40:13 GMT -7
I have #5 and it does not have the Metro. If I were to use the loop, I'd most likely have the mod done.
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Post by frankie on Apr 2, 2020 20:33:25 GMT -7
Does anyone know the exact (or close to) number amp of when Dr. Z changed to the Zero Loss effects loop in the Nova? Seems like I heard something about Z using a different loop in several of the early amps and changed to the Zero Loss on down the line. Thanks for any info. Keith I've been thinking of getting a Nova, but would want the Metro Loop have a Strymon El Capistan i wanted to use. I would hate to buy a new amp and not have the latest options. I can’t tell you exactly when the change (at least off the top of my head) was made after the discovery of compatibility issues that occurred with the Strymon Flint, (the large Strymon pedals worked fine and I would assume the El Capistan would as well), but it was very early within the first 10 models, and I know since then there have been a few that have been retrofitted as well. So by my estimation there might be 3-4, certainly under 5 in the wild. We have shipped close to 100 Novas, if my memory serves. The amp sounds exactly the same with the Metro Loop as it did with the old loop. If you don’t use the loop you will never ever have to worry. Buy new and you will not have to worry at all because you will be getting a late period amp with a full warranty. The Nova is a truly underrated Z amp, and has as good of a clean channel as it does a drive channel. It’s probably one of the most versatile amps we have ever made, and I plug people into one every time they come to the shop and their jaws drop.
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Post by grusty on Jan 12, 2021 14:06:24 GMT -7
My First Post. Is it safe to assume a Nova made in 1/19 has the Metro Loop?
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Post by doctorice on Jan 12, 2021 14:39:39 GMT -7
My First Post. Is it safe to assume a Nova made in 1/19 has the Metro Loop? Welcome. Do you know the serial number? It’s stamped on the back of the chassis. The last three digits indicate the particular amp’s number in the production run. For example, mine has a serial number ending with 004, which is the fourth amp produced as regular production. Based on Frankie’s post, if that number is 10 or higher you should be good. Anyway, the loop can be retrofitted.
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Post by grusty on Jan 12, 2021 14:46:49 GMT -7
Thanks, I'll check on the serial number.
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