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Post by cavaleiro on Oct 23, 2019 11:17:14 GMT -7
Hello and nice greetings from austria. I could get a M12 for a good price, but i don t have the chance to play with. I can read so many different opinions on this amp. Some say thin and small sounding. Some say perfect clean sound, like a small Stangray...Please users...give me your thougts :-)
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Post by purpletele on Oct 23, 2019 17:12:51 GMT -7
Hello and nice greetings from austria. I could get a M12 for a good price, but i don t have the chance to play with. I can read so many different opinions on this amp. Some say thin and small sounding. Some say perfect clean sound, like a small Stangray...Please users...give me your thougts :-) Cavaleiro, There was recent talk that included the M12. I haven’t played one but I understand that is a great amp designed for the pedal player. Someone else that has had one can chime in now. BTW, welcome to the forum! what is your style and level?
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Oct 24, 2019 6:24:13 GMT -7
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Post by lowbudget on Oct 24, 2019 6:24:57 GMT -7
I sometimes wonder if the "designed for the pedal player" thing helped seal the fate for the M12.
It's so much more than that!
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Post by detuned on Oct 24, 2019 6:33:36 GMT -7
I sometimes wonder if the "designed for the pedal player" thing helped seal the fate for the M12. It's so much more than that! Definitely! How about: half a Z-28? Princeton on steroids? Super Vox AC15? The M12 has a great, great clean tone, and sounds really great pushed. It'll handle almost any gig unmic'ed (mine's only run out of gas once in a really loud room). I don't know why it wasn't more popular than it was. There are a lot of theories about that, but "it didn't sound good" wasn't one of them. Can't go wrong with an M12 for a lot of different styles. Don't worry about your ability level - it's never too early for a great-sounding amp. And if you're a seasoned pro, you'll love the way this amp responds. Highly recommend!
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Post by GT Roger on Oct 28, 2019 6:54:32 GMT -7
I dig my M12 a lot. It is good for pedals, but sounds good by itself too. I never thought of it as thin or small sounding.
I play with a real loud drummer and bass player, so it's not quite loud enough for my band. But I've used it in a stereo rig and it works great for that application.
Don't get me wrong, it's a really loud 12 watts. I'd say for most people it's loud enough to keep up with a band. There's also a mod that can be done to get it up to 20 watts or so. There's a few threads about the mod, if you're interested.
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Post by jhen86 (jordan) on Oct 28, 2019 20:33:06 GMT -7
You’ll never know til you get one Seriously though. It’s true. Opinions are only worth so much. Gotta to try it yourself and make up your own mind. My first Z was an M12 used for a steal. If this one you are looking at is well priced, why not try it? You will get first hand experience. If you don’t love it, sell it and call a $50 experiment. That’s a cheap way to have some fun and learn your tone if you ask me. I think the M12 is great. I prefer it over my RX JR for running pedals. Sure, it doesn’t have the biggest lows or the chimiest highs. But the EF86 midrange is fantastic and it sits you right in the mix. With a band setting, I don’t really want huge lows anyway.
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Post by jhen86 (jordan) on Oct 29, 2019 7:28:52 GMT -7
I posted some sound samples here, if it helps you: ztalk.proboards.com/thread/78927/m12-sound-more-fender-marshallNo dirt. Mostly clean with effects. Everything at noon through a blue. I would NEVER call the M12 thin. But with a smaller speaker or cab it could sound small I suppose. Through my 2x12 open back it sounds great. Plenty big enough for me.
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Post by cavaleiro on Nov 1, 2019 11:27:32 GMT -7
Thank you for the great soundfiles....fantastic clean......cant say , which direction the sound came from...mix of fender , vox, marshall....
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Post by edoetsch on Mar 30, 2020 1:11:35 GMT -7
I describe it as a rich and chimney Vox AC-15. It cannot by itself and a guitar get as overdriven as an actual Vox. It maintains its clean characteristics when maxed. If you need hard rock tones you’ll need an overdrive to goose it but not need to go as far as a distortion box.
Great classic chimney tones. Great with fuzz. Holds clean enough when maxed and easing off attack or backing off volume.
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