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Post by bigplay on Jul 10, 2019 21:08:25 GMT -7
I play my Therapy 90% of the time and love it. I also have a 30th Ann, Maz 38 Head but currently have it in a combo. I am going to probably put it up for sales soon just to much amp for my needs. I am looking for a combo and a lower watt Divided by 13 caught my eye a CCC 9/15. It has a option to switch from 6v6 to EL 84's which seems pretty cool. Is there a Z amp that has a similar option in a combo? Thanks Ray
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Post by goodez on Jul 11, 2019 12:50:03 GMT -7
Z Plus I believe
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Post by KeithA on Jul 11, 2019 13:36:33 GMT -7
The Z-Plus is not switchable from el-84 to 6V6, though. None of Doc's amps have this option.
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Post by mrcapers on Jul 11, 2019 13:40:00 GMT -7
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Post by goodez on Jul 11, 2019 15:31:09 GMT -7
The Z-Plus is not switchable from el-84 to 6V6, though. None of Doc's amps have this option. It was more of a recommendation for the half power option from a lower wattage model. I know of no other models besides the z plus that offer it outside of the big bottles (Maz 38, Z-Lux, Db4, etc)
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on Jul 11, 2019 17:35:52 GMT -7
Didn’t the last versions of the remedy have 1/2 power switches? It’s a 6v6 amp.
That said, the ZPlus is just awesome and being able to click from 7w to 15w and maintain that awesome tone and feel is fantastic.
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Post by goodez on Jul 12, 2019 2:10:00 GMT -7
Didn’t the last versions of the remedy have 1/2 power switches? It’s a 6v6 amp. That said, the ZPlus is just awesome and being able to click from 7w to 15w and maintain that awesome tone and feel is fantastic. I believe so but again, thats falls in with the big bottle groups. The only model Doc currently offers with half power in the lower wattage group is the Z Plus. He could always run a Dr.Z brake lite though. Works great with my z28.
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on Jul 12, 2019 2:25:56 GMT -7
I just invested in a Power Station for the Therapy. I’m very happy I did. I love the Therapy but it’s a lot of amp for my needs, but the tone is to die for and being able to go from 6L6 to KT77 to EL34 gives you a lot of variation. The MV works great but I tend to like the MV up a good bit with the V at noon’ish, and that’s pretty loud.
If you love the Therapy as you’re main amp, instead of buying a new amp think about the Power Station - it’s about $700 new, which is climbing into “new amp” range, but it will easily let you use that Therapy at any volume preserving the tone like no passive attenuator can (plus impedance matching for any speaker cab arrangement, line out for the mixing board, etc ).
Just a thought.
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Post by KeithA on Jul 12, 2019 3:05:21 GMT -7
The Z-Plus is not switchable from el-84 to 6V6, though. None of Doc's amps have this option. It was more of a recommendation for the half power option from a lower wattage model. I know of no other models besides the z plus that offer it outside of the big bottles (Maz 38, Z-Lux, Db4, etc) Yeah, I guess I see the option he's asking about is more the ability switch between the two tube types in the same circuit (not so much the power difference). I have a Reinhardt Sultan that has both sets of tubes that can be switched by a toggle. At most volumes one side it not really louder than the other but there is a noticeable difference in the sound between the tubes even though used in the same circuit. It's a neat little option.
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Post by goodez on Jul 12, 2019 3:15:08 GMT -7
You’re right Keith, I seemed to have over looked the primary question. I think the only thing close production wise was the 6545 head with (kt45/sv65?). Shared a head but the preamp section was split? Pretty rare head if I recall but still doesn’t allow swapping power section tubes correct?
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Post by KeithA on Jul 12, 2019 5:04:10 GMT -7
Pretty rare head if I recall but still doesn’t allow swapping power section tubes correct? Correct. The power section was common.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jul 12, 2019 8:07:33 GMT -7
The Z-Plus is not switchable from el-84 to 6V6, though. None of Doc's amps have this option. The Antidote prototypes were capable of switching between KT66 and EL34 - I know where you can get one But it doesn't have a half power though.
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Post by KeithA on Jul 12, 2019 8:34:20 GMT -7
The Z-Plus is not switchable from el-84 to 6V6, though. None of Doc's amps have this option. The Antidote prototypes were capable of switching between KT66 and EL34 - I know where you can get one But it doesn't have a half power though. Lol, yeah, the response was in reference to the need for a low wattage combo The Antidote is just a little bigger than that
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Post by KeithA on Jul 12, 2019 14:05:50 GMT -7
The Antidote prototypes were capable of switching between KT66 and EL34 - I know where you can get one But it doesn't have a half power though. Lol, yeah, the response was in reference to the need for a low wattage combo The Antidote is just a little bigger than that Ignoring the ability to switch between tube types, though, but having a 1/2 power option, the Z-Plus may fit the bill.
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Post by bigplay on Jul 13, 2019 19:37:53 GMT -7
Thanks guys! Z Plus looks like it could be a good lower watt option and may fit better for my needs better than the Maz. Anybody play one side by side and can give me an idea of a comparison to the Maz or Therapy? Also as someone else mention the thing that caught my eye on the Div 13 was the ability to switch between two different tube types for two completely different sounds, as well as the lower wattage. Probably not that important during a jam but may find itself useful during recording.
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Post by bzl on Jul 14, 2019 5:58:24 GMT -7
The maz 8 will give you low wattage, and while not able to switch tubes, it does have the option of pentode or triode mode that definitely lend the amp a different flavor.
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on Jul 14, 2019 9:12:39 GMT -7
Thanks guys! Z Plus looks like it could be a good lower watt option and may fit better for my needs better than the Maz. Anybody play one side by side and can give me an idea of a comparison to the Maz or Therapy? Also as someone else mention the thing that caught my eye on the Div 13 was the ability to switch between two different tube types for two completely different sounds, as well as the lower wattage. Probably not that important during a jam but may find itself useful during recording. I’ve got the Therapy and the ZPlus. They are very different amps. The ZPlus gives up those 2nd order harmonics and that is a big difference, sonically. The Therapy has more “balls,” more “oomph,” and is a bit darker overall, to my ears. For a typical bar gig, the ZPlus tends to get the nod because it’s a great platform for “just breaking up” tone that cleans up with guitar volume, and it takes pedals great. It is bright, and some guys think too bright, but with the band it’s perfect. I’m running a Blue in the cab and a Z12 in an extension. If I can run two amps, I’d take the Therapy and run it in “Marshall” mode (EL34). With the Powerstation I can crank the MV to push the power tubes, set the V to the level of grind I want, and let the Powerstation set the overall volume to match the ZPlus. Before I bought the ZPlus I was running KT77s in the Therapy and if I was taking it as the lone amp that’s what I’d go back to.
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Post by Rhythmark on Jul 15, 2019 4:45:22 GMT -7
I know the zlux can use 6v6 or 5881’s And has half power switch.
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Post by Rhythmark on Jul 15, 2019 5:50:14 GMT -7
Antidote for sale in bst prototype. Switches between kt66 and el34. You won’t find another!
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Post by bigplay on Jul 19, 2019 20:23:40 GMT -7
Antidote for sale in bst prototype. Switches between kt66 and el34. You won’t find another! Cool amp but just more than I need.
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Post by bigplay on Jul 19, 2019 20:27:16 GMT -7
Thanks guys! Z Plus looks like it could be a good lower watt option and may fit better for my needs better than the Maz. Anybody play one side by side and can give me an idea of a comparison to the Maz or Therapy? Also as someone else mention the thing that caught my eye on the Div 13 was the ability to switch between two different tube types for two completely different sounds, as well as the lower wattage. Probably not that important during a jam but may find itself useful during recording. I’ve got the Therapy and the ZPlus. They are very different amps. The ZPlus gives up those 2nd order harmonics and that is a big difference, sonically. The Therapy has more “balls,” more “oomph,” and is a bit darker overall, to my ears. For a typical bar gig, the ZPlus tends to get the nod because it’s a great platform for “just breaking up” tone that cleans up with guitar volume, and it takes pedals great. It is bright, and some guys think too bright, but with the band it’s perfect. I’m running a Blue in the cab and a Z12 in an extension. If I can run two amps, I’d take the Therapy and run it in “Marshall” mode (EL34). With the Powerstation I can crank the MV to push the power tubes, set the V to the level of grind I want, and let the Powerstation set the overall volume to match the ZPlus. Before I bought the ZPlus I was running KT77s in the Therapy and if I was taking it as the lone amp that’s what I’d go back to. Thanks that was a great description. I am going to check it more I haven't found a lot of demo's yet
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Post by scottc on Aug 15, 2019 6:37:43 GMT -7
Thanks guys! Z Plus looks like it could be a good lower watt option and may fit better for my needs better than the Maz. Anybody play one side by side and can give me an idea of a comparison to the Maz or Therapy? Also as someone else mention the thing that caught my eye on the Div 13 was the ability to switch between two different tube types for two completely different sounds, as well as the lower wattage. Probably not that important during a jam but may find itself useful during recording. I’ve got the Therapy and the ZPlus. They are very different amps. The ZPlus gives up those 2nd order harmonics and that is a big difference, sonically. The Therapy has more “balls,” more “oomph,” and is a bit darker overall, to my ears. For a typical bar gig, the ZPlus tends to get the nod because it’s a great platform for “just breaking up” tone that cleans up with guitar volume, and it takes pedals great. It is bright, and some guys think too bright, but with the band it’s perfect. I’m running a Blue in the cab and a Z12 in an extension. If I can run two amps, I’d take the Therapy and run it in “Marshall” mode (EL34). With the Powerstation I can crank the MV to push the power tubes, set the V to the level of grind I want, and let the Powerstation set the overall volume to match the ZPlus. Before I bought the ZPlus I was running KT77s in the Therapy and if I was taking it as the lone amp that’s what I’d go back to. I had a first gen MAZ 18 and a Z-Plus at the same time. My goal was to have a lightweight, low volume combo primarily for casino gigs as they are crazy about decibels. The Z-Plus was perfect for that. I would run it at half power with the master and gain up over noon and had all the crunch you could ask for. However, I am one of those guys who thought it was too bright for my taste. I picked up a mark II MAZ18 and with the new master volume, got the control I needed volume-wise and the tone I was used to (albeit more gain, which works for me) with the new circuit. FYI - My new MAZ is a studio combo and is a joy to cart around due to it's reduced size and weight. Scott
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