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Post by markT on May 27, 2019 13:06:45 GMT -7
Since getting my Z-Master, the Nova is very intriguing.
Not much action or information in the Nova vs Z-Master thread.. Not very many Nova AND Z-Master owners...but this has me thinking.....
What about the Nova vs Therapy??
Still love my Therapy, but thinking about a Nova head. I understand Nova is a two channel design. But both have low power Tweed Twin in the description.
How similar or different are they?
Would it be redundant to have both?? Or even more redundant to have Nova, Therapy AND Z-Master?? All American sounding amps....
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Post by helmi on May 27, 2019 16:39:41 GMT -7
I'd like to hear people's thought's on this also, but I don't think we're gonna get many.
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Post by markT on May 27, 2019 18:07:40 GMT -7
I'd like to hear people's thought's on this also, but I don't think we're gonna get many.You are correct a few hours in..... but it's a holiday....? Why do you say that?
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Post by helmi on May 28, 2019 1:59:33 GMT -7
I'd like to hear people's thought's on this also, but I don't think we're gonna get many.You are correct a few hours in..... but it's a holiday....? Why do you say that? I don" t think there's many Nova owners on here, from the same people I see responding in the Nova threads. and the chances of those few people owning or even hearing a Therapy are probably even slimmer. I would also like to hear a comparison. hopefully I'm wrong!
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Post by Russell B on May 28, 2019 4:24:26 GMT -7
There have only been a handful of comments on comparing the Nova with the Therapy. Dave said that you can get close to a Therapy with the Nova and Todd said that he perceives that the Nova had more gain than the Therapy, but he also said that perhaps the Nova's gain stucture only made him think it had more gain. I for one would love more comparisons between the two amps.
I have a Galaxie and I can tell you that the Therapy is tighter and smoother in its sound compared to channal one of the Galaxie. But, I don't know how much "rework" went into the Nova. I do know that the OD on the Nova very smooth when compared to my Galaxie.
I would also like to know more about the mids in the Nova as compared to the Therapy. It's been interesting that most seem to favor the stock G12H30 over a Gold or a V30. Maybe it has a lot of midrange and that speaker tames it? Don't know.
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Nov 6, 2019 17:42:10 GMT -7
Reviving this thread hoping more members now have or have had both.
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Post by Ridgeback on Feb 20, 2020 22:02:33 GMT -7
Another bump. Specifically interested in how the clean channel of the Nova compares to the Therapy. A Nova won't be replacing my Therapy as I have no use for a gain channel but I thought I'd see if additional time has increased the number of Nova owners who also have experience with the Therapy.
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Post by nmz on Feb 21, 2020 12:38:05 GMT -7
To ME the Nova seemed to have a little Marshall in it compared to the Therapy. Therapy seemed more “modern American” where the Nova gives a great vintage grease bucket (in a good way) vibe.
The Traid transformer vs the Therapy’s (believe it is the EZG) creates a very different feel. Thus the vintage vs modern comparisons.
The Nova sounds like it came right out of a Tom Waits (more recent stuff) album. Where the Therapy would be found on something like Foo Fighters/Rush type (struggling to think of any other bands right now) album. Vintage vs modern, loose feel vs. tight if that makes any sense.
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on Feb 21, 2020 12:52:45 GMT -7
Walter Becker used a Therapy in the last Steely Dan tours before he passed.
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Post by purpletele on Feb 21, 2020 22:24:18 GMT -7
Walter Becker used a Therapy in the last Steely Dan tours before he passed. Are you saying that killed him?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 23, 2020 9:45:37 GMT -7
Another bump. Specifically interested in how the clean channel of the Nova compares to the Therapy. A Nova won't be replacing my Therapy as I have no use for a gain channel but I thought I'd see if additional time has increased the number of Nova owners who also have experience with the Therapy. So I now have a Nova, but I have not heard a Therapy since I sold mine to you. They are not the same animal. Someone said they thought the Nova might have a tad bit of Marshall, and I can see why someone might say that. Nova does not have a mid control, and it has plenty of mids. It also leaves the clean channel on when you turn on the gain channel, so there are a lot of places on the volume knobs that make sounds quite unlike the Therapy. As to how the clean channel compares, my recollection and perception is the Therapy has more ability to approach blackface tones than the Nova. Nova is more tweed all the way. So it's a bit warmer, darker, etc. But you get a treble control AND a presence control, so you have some latitude. Now, take all of that with a grain of salt, and recognize that your reviewer here wears hearing aids, and they definitely affect perception. YMMV.
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Post by Ridgeback on Feb 23, 2020 9:53:25 GMT -7
Thanks Steve. Glad you seem to be doing well these days and are enjoying playing again. Still enjoying 001 and it's next in the playing rotation after I finish with the Z-28 in a few weeks. I'm about to enter the black hole of hearing aid land later this year. What a racket (pun intended). Take care.
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Post by recess on Feb 24, 2020 21:04:51 GMT -7
Another bump. Specifically interested in how the clean channel of the Nova compares to the Therapy. A Nova won't be replacing my Therapy as I have no use for a gain channel but I thought I'd see if additional time has increased the number of Nova owners who also have experience with the Therapy. I made a little video earlier tonight switching between clean and overdrive on my Nova. Doesn't include a Therapy comparison but may give you a taste -
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Post by Ridgeback on Feb 25, 2020 13:30:14 GMT -7
Thanks. I could hear the amp just fine on both channels but not your voice so if you ID'd the speaker or any pedals you used, I couldn't tell.
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Post by recess on Feb 25, 2020 13:33:51 GMT -7
Thanks. I could hear the amp just fine on both channels but not your voice so if you ID'd the speaker or any pedals you used, I couldn't tell. It's through a Z-Best with celestions. I used the overdrive pedal for the first comparison. For the second comparison, I kept overdrive engaged and just adjusted volume with the volume knob on my tele.
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Post by Abandoned on Mar 22, 2020 19:36:57 GMT -7
Here ya go :!
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