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Post by donovantyler on Mar 23, 2019 1:56:46 GMT -7
I'm in a band with a guy that has a fender Princeton 65 reissue. The Princeton has had issues and the first one is that it is so damn sharp and bright it hurts! I don't know why but you have to turn the treble all the way down to zero and the bass all the way up to give any fatness on a Les Paul. We brought it to an amp Tech and he says there's nothing wrong with it. This guy has been playing my Allen amplification 10 watt Chihuahua which is a lovely blackface champ circuit with a 10 in Copperhead speaker and 10 watts and really nice Reverb and master volume. His Les Paul sounds awesome in it and he is disgusted with his Princeton. Our band plays classic rock dr. Kind of 70s FM Rock. Grateful Dead, Black Crowes, Joe Walsh..etc I turned him on to the sound of an M12 and he really loved the videos and recordings. He loved the thick tones. I am playing through a Dr Z mini z by the way with an Eminence alnico Red Fang in it and it is so dang loud! Tonight we had rehearsal and I didn't have the mini z past 9 o'clock setting and the attenuator was on three. The drummer is playing an electric kit not too loud. I am confident that anygig when our drummer is playing a real kit that my mini z will be plenty loud... But I'm hoping we will be loud enough where I can play my remedy LOL! I know Dr Z Watts are really big big Watts. There's one M12 1 * 10 combo available and it has a Red Fang ... probably copper. I can only extrapolate that that will be more than twice as loud as mine in easy with an alNico Red Fang. Do you guys ever have any problems with your M12 not being loud enough?
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Mar 23, 2019 5:46:31 GMT -7
If you are playing a Mini-Z at 9 with attenuator on 3 the M12 should be more than loud enough.
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Post by jhen86 (jordan) on Mar 23, 2019 17:53:00 GMT -7
Agreed. Especially with a higher efficiency speaker (100 dB). It would be louder than the mini Z unattenuated and then some. Could also substitute a 5v4 rectifier tube in the M12 for a little more wattage / volume. More in like the 15-18 Z watt range.
Just this week actually, I finally opened up my M12 with the 5v4 the other day when the house was empty. With everything at 2 o clock it was crazy loud, even through a 97db Creamback M.
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Post by fishyfishfish on Mar 29, 2019 9:16:19 GMT -7
Yes. I have a 1x10 combo and it is more than loud enough for gigs.
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Post by GT Roger on Mar 29, 2019 10:24:16 GMT -7
I play with a loud drummer and bass player, so my M12 doesn't get loud enough for me. I've been using it as a second amp along with my EZG-50. It works great that way for me.
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Post by detuned on Mar 29, 2019 16:40:38 GMT -7
I've run out of gas ONCE with the M12, and it was in a big ol' bar with no PA. Other than that, the M12 has always carried me through.
Much louder than 12 watts would suggest. Get an efficient speaker and you're set for almost any gig. It'll definitely eat that Princeton for lunch.
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Post by aarondavis on Apr 1, 2019 8:55:31 GMT -7
My M12 1x10 combo is a great little amp. Lacks the boxyness that this configuration seems to have from other amp makers. Also, I've seen some postings elsewhere where guys say its a thin amp and real quiet. I disagree completely.
My M12 is a real fat sounding rig, with quite a bit of bass and punch. And I definitely believe it will hang with all bands with reasonable volume. If not, the band might be too loud... or there are more musicians than this power band of amp supports.
The M12 is a magical amp that should have sold better if people really understood what it was all about.
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Post by fishyfishfish on Apr 25, 2019 12:44:13 GMT -7
It is loud enough to gig with for me.
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Post by thatstatuemoved on May 5, 2019 8:29:49 GMT -7
I think the m-12 would be fine for your bandmate. Would be a big upgrade over the fender IMO. I run mine with a 12" gold and it has plenty of power. Great amp.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 9:53:16 GMT -7
The M12 is plenty loud for club gigs, and you can always mic it if need be. I'd also suggest having a look at the Cure--it's a great little club amp, and can easily keep up with a hard-hitting drummer in most circumstances. I speak from experience--our current drummer, Amanda (we call her Minnesota Thunder), loves to rock out and when she gets the big sticks going she can definitely fill the room--but I use a Cure in our practice space and for smaller gigs and so far it's a great fit. I liked the M12 and I'm sorry it's out of production, but I love the Cure.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 9:55:44 GMT -7
Also, yeah--a guy here in town runs one of those silverface Princeton reissues and it's like getting stabbed in the ear-hole with a knitting needle. Horrible!
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