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Post by ineedtherapy (Stuart) on Feb 20, 2019 12:32:22 GMT -7
So, getting high gain on both sides is better than one lower gain, one higher gain? Or do the dip switches give you the ability to change one of the higher gain sides back to lower gain? the internal dipswitches only let you choose between overdrive, boost, and distortion. High gain or low gain is determined at the point of ordering. If you go with high gain, it doesn’t raise the gain floor, only the ceiling. So you’ll still have access to the low gain in the sweep of the gain knob. Mike explains that option a little better than I can on his page. I think the reason a lot of us are suggesting high gain on both sides is because it gives you the option to have more gain should you ever want it, but it’s up to you as to whether you choose to turn your gain up. I am selling my current KOT and getting a new one soon as my name comes up in the next few weeks because I want to change the options on mine. I’ve had it for five years and it’s the only pedal that hasn’t left my board. Mine has high gain on the red side only. So I currently have both sides set to overdrive, with the high gain red side set to 3:00 for my Tele and moves down to 1:00 for my LP. The yellow side is set to around 1:00. I want the yellow side to be boost, but I don’t like the boost without the high gain option which is a part of my reasoning for getting a new one. I play fairly clean and only engage the red side for lead parts that need a a boost in sustain and volume.
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Post by KeithA on Feb 20, 2019 12:32:49 GMT -7
I got on the list December 25, 2016... I just checked. I was added January 9, 2017. We must have been reading the same thread...around the same time
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 13:00:20 GMT -7
How do you check? I can't find the email from them--it must be in my spam filter.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Feb 20, 2019 14:43:34 GMT -7
I went back and looked to see when I had sent the request. The address you send it to is analogspam@aol.com I know that I registered many years ago but never heard back...so I re-upped in May last year. I guess I've got a while to wait. It would be good to know where the confirmation email comes from though...
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Post by KeithA on Feb 20, 2019 14:52:39 GMT -7
How do you check? I can't find the email from them--it must be in my spam filter. The email to confirm addition to the list would have come from 'analogspam@aol.com' Yes, yes, the address actually has SPAM in it! I simply went back to find it in my archived mail. Do a search of all of your folders to see what comes back
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Post by ineedtherapy (Stuart) on Feb 20, 2019 15:18:34 GMT -7
Supposedly if you can show that you emailed to be added to the list and they don’t let you know that your ready to order, you can show them that email and they’ll get it corrected.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:07:08 GMT -7
Hey--I'm on the list on 12/22/16. I should be hearing any day now. Anybody wanna buy a KoT? (Kidding--I'll try it again and see if I like it any better than I did the last time. Then I'll sell it.)
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Post by goodez on Feb 20, 2019 19:54:14 GMT -7
7/24/17. I’ve got a little while to go still but steadily closing in. It’ll be worth the wait as I’ve really been wanting a nice dual channel pedal.
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Post by detuned on Feb 21, 2019 6:49:02 GMT -7
I'm back on the list as of last May, so it'll be a while before my name comes up again. I tried a "vanilla" version, didn't love it and flipped it, but didn't make a huge windfall. As I recall, I offered it here first, and someone got what turned out to be a bargain.
The second time around I tried a high gain option on the red side, thinking I must have missed something. Still not for me, I guess, because that one got flipped, too. Now I'm back on because I *think* I finally understand how that pedal wants to be used. Still, small risk. Unless the bottom falls out of the market, I can flip that too, if necessary. Hoping not too.
I got caught up in a minor dustup with Mike and the Analog fanboys over on the Book of Faces a while back, when I had the audacity to suggest that selling a pedal you don't want is you right as a consumer, even if you only bought it to make a profit of it in the first place. That's not what *I* did, but that' part of the whole used gear marketplace. I don't see how you stop people from reselling your stuff after they've paid for it, even if you'd want to. Unlike streaming music, we're not leasing the stuff.
Anyway, all Mike's stuff is awesome, and he's probably forgotten more about vintage pedals than most builders will ever know. We're truly blessed to have Analogman around.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 7:33:20 GMT -7
It wants to be run into a cooking, just-at-breakup amp at stage volume. Otherwise it doesn't have enough gain, and the volume pot taper doesn't work very well. If you're running into a clean amp at practice volume, it doesn't open up until you get the volume past noon and the gain basically cranked, and then it's too loud and still not getting you into singing sustain territory, in my experience. With the volume below noon, it sounds thin and kind of strangled. Good pedal for gigging, maybe, but requires the player to adapt amp settings to the pedal rather than the other way around, if they want to get the best out of it. I found that it tried my patience in that respect--I want a pedal that adapts to my amp in both practice and gig situations. But hey, I'm happy to have another whack at it. It'll be interesting to see how it interacts with a Z-Lux.
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Post by Rhythmark on Feb 21, 2019 10:14:38 GMT -7
I dont know if people flip these just to flip. I mean waiting 2 plus years to make an extra $250. Seems like a lot of waiting time! A-man may have a side team selling for inflated prices! Lol jk. But I do agree that some of these magic pedals do need high volume amp to make them sing. Bedroom player will never hear that.
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Post by zpilot on Feb 21, 2019 21:20:58 GMT -7
It wants to be run into a cooking, just-at-breakup amp at stage volume. Otherwise it doesn't have enough gain, and the volume pot taper doesn't work very well. If you're running into a clean amp at practice volume, it doesn't open up until you get the volume past noon and the gain basically cranked, and then it's too loud and still not getting you into singing sustain territory, in my experience. With the volume below noon, it sounds thin and kind of strangled. Good pedal for gigging, maybe, but requires the player to adapt amp settings to the pedal rather than the other way around, if they want to get the best out of it. I found that it tried my patience in that respect--I want a pedal that adapts to my amp in both practice and gig situations. But hey, I'm happy to have another whack at it. It'll be interesting to see how it interacts with a Z-Lux. That sounds exactly the way my gold Klon was. In fact the instructions said that. I loaned it to a few friends and the ones that tried to use it as an "amp-in-a-box" pedal were disappointed.
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Post by GT Roger on Feb 24, 2019 9:08:21 GMT -7
I got one about 6 months ago. I thought my OD search would be over, but I didn't gel with it, like I thought I would. I did a shoot out with all of my other OD pedals and it did sound better than the others. I agree with Jon, that you need to have it cranked to get the sweet spot on it. Which seems to be too loud in comparison to my clean sound.
I'm an Analogman fan boy. I have a lot of Mike's pedals. I'm not putting down the KoT. It's a great pedal, but it's all subjective to the sound your going for, amp, guitar and other pedals you use with it. I still have the KoT on my pedal board, but I'm not using it that much, mostly for a solo boost.
I'm using a Kingsley Harlot now as my main overdrive sound. It's got more of the sound I'm looking for. I will say that the Harlot with the KoT afterwards is pretty mean sounding.
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Post by JebusCrebus on Feb 28, 2019 5:18:15 GMT -7
I love my KOT with the standard options but will try the high gain both sides when my name comes back around. I saw a guy on our local Craig's list with a KOT for $1000 (it was in Canadian funds)it wasn't up long so I don't know if he took it down or if it sold. If it sold that's a nice profit for sure!
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Post by Sean on Feb 28, 2019 5:57:03 GMT -7
I've bought and sold the KoT and PoT several times. "JAOP" I say. Just another overdrive pedal. The have just added the model in my fractal axe-fx and I have the same feeling. Much prefer the Timmy or others. :) ......
Just looked through my old emails - last time I got on the waitlist was 2010 and I didn't buy. Just emailed to see if I can still buy one! lol
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Post by Sean on Feb 28, 2019 13:20:46 GMT -7
Ok this might be a record - I was on the waitlist 6/29/09 and never ordered!
I think they had to go back to typewritten pages. Costs were $195 for a v2 or the v4 for $235.
So only $30 more after 10 years.
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Post by runninwiththerevil (Matthew) on Mar 13, 2019 19:52:42 GMT -7
I was on the list once. When my time came up I had something else that was requiring my time and funds. I don't remember what it was but I do remember it was another piece of music gear. It might have been when I bought my MAZ 8. Anyway, I passed on the KOT. I have survived without it. zpilot - I was in the same boat, passed in 2010. About a year ago I figured I would jump back on the list again. When I checked and saw that the wait was something more like 2.5 years I decided to email Analogman and ask what the deal was since I passed when my name came up the first time. Quick response was that your name once it has gotten to the top of the list will stay there until you order. Boom, within a couple weeks I had it. I sure do like it, is it worth $500+, I wouldn't pay that. I would love to get another Morning Glory and see how they do in my rig side by side.
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