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Post by simpleton on Feb 8, 2019 15:18:24 GMT -7
Hey all...does anyone know if the Cure will fit any current Z head? I’d love to put one in a head to run with my 1x12 Covertible Cab. . . I was guessing it might be MAZ sized but looking for confirmation.
Thanks in advance
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Post by "Z" Steve on Feb 8, 2019 15:39:13 GMT -7
Timely question!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 15:45:38 GMT -7
A cure head would be awesome. Perfect little carry-along backup for my Z-Lux.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Feb 8, 2019 16:33:40 GMT -7
I'm thinking that since the Cure chassis fits the Studio Combo, it's probably the same size as the MAZ and others. However, since the Cure is built as a top-hanging chassis and the heads are bottom-sitting, the Cure modified into a head cab would have its faceplate & controls upside down. The sound, of course, would still be right-side-up, though...
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Post by purpletele on Feb 8, 2019 16:47:03 GMT -7
The cure will definitely fit in the standard Maz type head cab, but I would verify the dimensions of the chassis. If it is 17.5 inches long then you are good.
The faceplate will be upside down.
I wouldn't mind having a reversed Z-Plus faceplate so I could put that chassis in a head cab as well.
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Post by mrcapers on Feb 8, 2019 17:07:59 GMT -7
I put my Cure in my Remedy head cab and put the remedy in the Cure cab, making a Remedy combo. Lasted a week. Upside down control panels were not as easy to manipulate as I had hoped. But it does fit!
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Post by simpleton on Feb 8, 2019 17:35:42 GMT -7
Thanks all....darn on the upside down controls. I would not like that....I would love it to be in a head though. Do people make control panels that could be swapped?
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Post by "Z" Steve on Feb 8, 2019 17:53:59 GMT -7
I did this for my Maz 8 - combo to head, and it worked perfectly. And, very reasonable, plus he already has Z dimensions on file! www.mathercab.com/
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Feb 8, 2019 18:53:32 GMT -7
You can reposition all the knobs so they work and look like normal. Then only the writing on the faceplate will be upside down. I've done this a few times and it worked fine. Before repositioning them, having the knobs not repositioned was more confusing than I thought it would be.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Feb 8, 2019 19:17:12 GMT -7
One possible solution is to have a shop that makes trophy nameplates make a new faceplate. I believed that Doc used this method when he first began making amps.
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Post by purpletele on Feb 8, 2019 23:32:11 GMT -7
Thanks all....darn on the upside down controls. I would not like that....I would love it to be in a head though. Do people make control panels that could be swapped? I haven't seen any for this purpose. It's really a challenge to retro fit face plates, I just made face plates for a JTM 45 Chassis and I had to match the holes and the IEC in the back. It's doable but you wouldn't get a trademark Z on the faceplate.
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Post by simpleton on Feb 9, 2019 7:55:34 GMT -7
Thanks all....darn on the upside down controls. I would not like that....I would love it to be in a head though. Do people make control panels that could be swapped? I haven't seen any for this purpose. It's really a challenge to retro fit face plates, I just made face plates for a JTM 45 Chassis and I had to match the holes and the IEC in the back. It's doable but you wouldn't get a trademark Z on the faceplate. Your work bench is so much cleaner than mine...I will probably hold off on the Cure head for now. I really need to work on my soldering,I’d love to have some projects like you have ....but maybe pedals instead of amps.
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Post by djcakadave on Feb 9, 2019 10:16:56 GMT -7
I did this for my Maz 8 - combo to head, and it worked perfectly. And, very reasonable, plus he already has Z dimensions on file! www.mathercab.com/Peter Mather does fantastic work!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 10:41:23 GMT -7
THe original Idea If I remember was an AMP that was More affordable. Not sure if Doc even knew himself what a great versatile amp he created with this Level control. No offense to anyone's head idea > I just think Doc is in business to make a Profit : I might be wrong : You would need to ask him. Personally I don't see a Head in this AMP making a big enough splash : Maybe as a Modification you could send in and have done. I personally would like to see this Level Control (If Possible) Implemented in a larger EL84 with Reverb> Ot just the same concept in an EL84 based design. I've owned many Z's > Not all of them. But easily 2/3's I've played Gigs and I've played home. Because of the Level control I have an AMP I get more use from then any of the previous Z's I've owned. IMO The Cure Needs a Twin Sister voiced different : JMO
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Post by "Z" Steve on Feb 9, 2019 11:07:17 GMT -7
THe original Idea If I remember was an AMP that was More affordable. Not sure if Doc even knew himself what a great versatile amp he created with this Level control. He speaks the truth!
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Post by simpleton on Feb 9, 2019 13:31:54 GMT -7
THe original Idea If I remember was an AMP that was More affordable. Not sure if Doc even knew himself what a great versatile amp he created with this Level control. No offense to anyone's head idea > I just think Doc is in business to make a Profit : I might be wrong : You would need to ask him. Personally I don't see a Head in this AMP making a big enough splash : Maybe as a Modification you could send in and have done. I personally would like to see this Level Control (If Possible) Implemented in a larger EL84 with Reverb> Ot just the same concept in an EL84 based design. I've owned many Z's > Not all of them. But easily 2/3's I've played Gigs and I've played home. Because of the Level control I have an AMP I get more use from then any of the previous Z's I've owned. IMO The Cure Needs a Twin Sister voiced different : JMO I was all in for the combo....just thought it would be a fun little head. I don’t think Z should make a production head. It’s great in the studio cab...and I have the 1x12 to make the sound a bit bigger. . . I was just bored and thinking
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Feb 9, 2019 13:39:28 GMT -7
THe original Idea If I remember was an AMP that was More affordable. Not sure if Doc even knew himself what a great versatile amp he created with this Level control. No offense to anyone's head idea > I just think Doc is in business to make a Profit : I might be wrong : You would need to ask him. Personally I don't see a Head in this AMP making a big enough splash : Maybe as a Modification you could send in and have done. I personally would like to see this Level Control (If Possible) Implemented in a larger EL84 with Reverb> Ot just the same concept in an EL84 based design. I've owned many Z's > Not all of them. But easily 2/3's I've played Gigs and I've played home. Because of the Level control I have an AMP I get more use from then any of the previous Z's I've owned. IMO The Cure Needs a Twin Sister voiced different : JMO The Monza (w/PPIMV) comes to mind. Discontinued, though. Or a Maz 18 MKII.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 14:27:20 GMT -7
THe original Idea If I remember was an AMP that was More affordable. Not sure if Doc even knew himself what a great versatile amp he created with this Level control. No offense to anyone's head idea > I just think Doc is in business to make a Profit : I might be wrong : You would need to ask him. Personally I don't see a Head in this AMP making a big enough splash : Maybe as a Modification you could send in and have done. I personally would like to see this Level Control (If Possible) Implemented in a larger EL84 with Reverb> Ot just the same concept in an EL84 based design. I've owned many Z's > Not all of them. But easily 2/3's I've played Gigs and I've played home. Because of the Level control I have an AMP I get more use from then any of the previous Z's I've owned. IMO The Cure Needs a Twin Sister voiced different : JMO I was all in for the combo....just thought it would be a fun little head. I don’t think Z should make a production head. It’s great in the studio cab...and I have the 1x12 to make the sound a bit bigger. . . I was just bored and thinking Bored?? You want to come over and Shovel Snow ??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 14:32:27 GMT -7
THe original Idea If I remember was an AMP that was More affordable. Not sure if Doc even knew himself what a great versatile amp he created with this Level control. No offense to anyone's head idea > I just think Doc is in business to make a Profit : I might be wrong : You would need to ask him. Personally I don't see a Head in this AMP making a big enough splash : Maybe as a Modification you could send in and have done. I personally would like to see this Level Control (If Possible) Implemented in a larger EL84 with Reverb> Ot just the same concept in an EL84 based design. I've owned many Z's > Not all of them. But easily 2/3's I've played Gigs and I've played home. Because of the Level control I have an AMP I get more use from then any of the previous Z's I've owned. IMO The Cure Needs a Twin Sister voiced different : JMO The Monza (w/PPIMV) comes to mind. Discontinued, though. Or a Maz 18 MKII. Debating a MAZ18 : Just thinking Outloud : My Dealer doesn't have teh MAz 18 MKII in stock with Verb : Just thinking Out loud >I know DR has said in the past V MV won';t work with Stang ray or Wreck. But I have no doubt someday he'll surprise us yet again. I am happy with the Cure : It covers alot of ground :
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Post by simpleton on Feb 9, 2019 20:22:50 GMT -7
The Monza (w/PPIMV) comes to mind. Discontinued, though. Or a Maz 18 MKII. Debating a MAZ18 : Just thinking Outloud : My Dealer doesn't have teh MAz 18 MKII in stock with Verb : Just thinking Out loud >I know DR has said in the past V MV won';t work with Stang ray or Wreck. But I have no doubt someday he'll surprise us yet again. I am happy with the Cure : It covers alot of ground : I’m in the coast range of Oregon...we got a bit of snow yesterday and today. That’s what got me thinking about toys. Recently got a Swart Antares and use Cure with it as the compliment. If I was trying to compliment the Cure I would think MAZ mkii, MONZA, (M12 or DB4 are other ideas I’ve kicked around).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 14:21:45 GMT -7
Debating a MAZ18 : Just thinking Outloud : My Dealer doesn't have teh MAz 18 MKII in stock with Verb : Just thinking Out loud >I know DR has said in the past V MV won';t work with Stang ray or Wreck. But I have no doubt someday he'll surprise us yet again. I am happy with the Cure : It covers alot of ground : I’m in the coast range of Oregon...we got a bit of snow yesterday and today. That’s what got me thinking about toys. Recently got a Swart Antares and use Cure with it as the compliment. If I was trying to compliment the Cure I would think MAZ mkii, MONZA, (M12 or DB4 are other ideas I’ve kicked around). THE Cure kinda spoils you for the Home small venue playing : IMO an el84 based amp with the Cure level concept would Cover a lot of Tones in the Chime arena vs the Bell tone from the cure. I have to take another look at the Maz 18 and listen to what Doc said in his video on the MKII differences
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Post by simpleton on Feb 11, 2019 17:12:37 GMT -7
I’m in the coast range of Oregon...we got a bit of snow yesterday and today. That’s what got me thinking about toys. Recently got a Swart Antares and use Cure with it as the compliment. If I was trying to compliment the Cure I would think MAZ mkii, MONZA, (M12 or DB4 are other ideas I’ve kicked around). THE Cure kinda spoils you for the Home small venue playing : IMO an el84 based amp with the Cure level concept would Cover a lot of Tones in the Chime arena vs the Bell tone from the cure. I have to take another look at the Maz 18 and listen to what Doc said in his video on the MKII differences Agree. The EL84 really adds the perfect compliment to the 6v6. I thought the same...like a (Vox ish) 15 watts with level control ... no reverb...with effects loop EQ BYPASS...Studio cab. Maybe the MAZ will do it...
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Post by fallingstarsusa on Feb 12, 2019 8:48:23 GMT -7
I sold my trusty Maz18NR when I got the Cure, and as much as I like the Cure, and I like it a lot, I sometimes miss the Maz. I would be all over a Maz18 NR with the Cure's level control. I haven't had a chance to play a MkII, but it sounds like the new master volume gets you close the Cure's level control. It would be interesting to hear from folks who have A/Bed the two.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Feb 12, 2019 8:58:59 GMT -7
I have both and the new MKII Master Volume is, I believe, as good as the Level control. I had the amp in it's original form and the difference after the MKII mod is like night and day to me. Mine is an NR model so I don't know about the reverb but the Master Volume is the best ever.
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