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Post by redzsrock on May 17, 2018 13:46:31 GMT -7
So I now find myself involved in a couple of bands where I need to be in ears. I’m having a heck of a time getting a decent amp sound in my ears. Everything else sounds good. Vocals, drums, bass, acoustic guitar... all sound really good. Both my Z Lux and my Maz 18 sound like crap in ears.
Does anyone one have any advice or tips on using n-ears with amps they’d share with me?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 15:20:10 GMT -7
You know you are getting a good sound out of your amp. Don't mess with the amp.
Mess with the microphone first. Towards the center is brighter, towards the outside of the speaker is fuller. If that doesn't do it mess with the EQ on that channel that's sending to your in-ears.
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on May 17, 2018 16:07:44 GMT -7
Consider only wearing one in ear. I’m fond of that to hear my amp and the general “ambiance”
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Post by GuitarZ on May 17, 2018 17:33:45 GMT -7
Do they use any ambient mics? That could help.
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Post by redzsrock on May 18, 2018 6:11:31 GMT -7
I should have elaborated on our setup.
I have an e609 mic at about about 1/2 way between center and outside edge of my speaker. I also have a Palmer DI running to the console.
I'm using the e609 in one channel for FOH, and the DI into a separate channel specifically for my ear mix. I figured that way I could EQ my in-ear channel independently of the FOH mix.
GuitarZ - I completely overlooked the ambient mic idea. I'll try that. And by the way... I love that Goldtop LP in your pic! That's my dream guitar!
Maybe I'll also try running the e609 through my in-ear channel and play with mic placement.
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Post by GuitarZ on May 18, 2018 16:45:38 GMT -7
RedzsRock - I've been lucky enough to have the Gold Top since I was about 14 or 15. It sounds like I was a spoiled brat, but my Dad worked two jobs and the church where he was a janitor gave him a desk. The deal was that if he could sell the desk, my folks would buy me the Les Paul for $350, if not, it would be a Tele for $250. So, that's how I got my used '68 Les Paul in 1976. It turned out to be a good investment since that was my only real electric guitar all of the way through 2002. It's a great guitar.
I think the e609 will provide a better sound to you. A little ambiance should also get you very comfortable. I think you're on the right path. Good luck.
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Post by redzsrock on May 18, 2018 19:24:28 GMT -7
GuitarZ - That is just an awesome story behind that Les Paul!
I currently have a "poor man's version" of that guitar... A 60's tribute Gold Top w/P90's. While the fit n' finish aren't as good as my Traditional HP Les Paul, it sounds better with those P90's to me. Just love that guitar.
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Post by iluvpunz on May 18, 2018 19:51:12 GMT -7
I use in ears on stage and have found it takes some work to get the amp tone right through the ears. The e609 works great for mic'ing the amp but I think your trouble might be coming from the DI providing your in ear signal. I tried splitting the feed off the mic for a while and it did not work well at all. The mic didn't provide enough signal so both sounds suffered. I now use a Cab Grabber and an e609 which puts the front of the mic off axis a bit and about 3 inches off of the grille routed directly to the board. I then use a dedicated monitor send out to my in ears and only use on ear in. I put the in ear monitor on the side away from the stage since our set up has me and the other guitar player on opposing outside positions on the stage. I get stage volume of the drums and bass plus benefit of vocals, my guitar and a bit of the other guitar player in the one in ear. The only other thing I can recommend it make sure you have the gain set correctly for the channel (mic) on the board. If your channel gain is set too low your tone will be thin and weak. If the gain is set too high you could be having digital clipping which sounds terrible.
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