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Post by bryan0418 on Mar 22, 2018 10:59:20 GMT -7
Well I never thought this would happen. I blew a Celestion Gold while profiling my Mazerati with my Kemper. It is really strange. I made 3 profiles and various volumes and even all the way till 1:00 on the volume dial with no issues. I dropped the volume to 9:00 and profiled it with a Timmy pedal in front and bam, the amp just died after the profile was done.
Could it be the 50 watt Gold couldn't handle the current during profiling? I know the Mazerati is 35 watts or so and I never had an issue with speakers before when I cranked the amp.
Fortunately I had an extra Gold sitting around and I replaced it. But now I question what to do with the dead speaker. I see Weber and a few other places offer re-coning services and I see there are kits to do it myself. Is it worth it to re-cone it? Will it sound like a Gold after? Or does the dead speaker become a piece of wall art or doorstop? Anyone re-cone a speaker before?
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Mar 22, 2018 11:24:08 GMT -7
Weber can make it right. Very reasonable and not too long of a wait. Definitely worth it. And if you really don’t feel like messing with it, I’d be interested in it.
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Post by Rockerfeller on Mar 22, 2018 11:28:00 GMT -7
The only time I have ever blown a speaker was on stage with a Celestion Gold. I don't know why it blew, it could handle more power than the head I was using. The good news was that I had bought it new and Celestion sent me a new one for free!
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Post by LT on Mar 22, 2018 15:14:36 GMT -7
If it were a less expensive speaker, I'd say maybe trash it, but not a Gold. Definitely worth the re-cone. Plus, you'll have a spare again in case you ever need it.
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Post by zpilot on Mar 22, 2018 15:36:40 GMT -7
Ditto on Weber recone service.
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Post by zpilot on Mar 22, 2018 15:46:31 GMT -7
I think Austin Speaker Works will recone these with their Elegante kit. That might be an interesting option. I've heard good things about those.
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Post by bryan0418 on Mar 22, 2018 15:47:03 GMT -7
An extra Gold is always good. Do you guys think it will still sound as good as another Gold after the re-cone? Or will if lose the Celestion mojo?
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Post by zpilot on Mar 22, 2018 16:22:32 GMT -7
If it is done with an authentic Celestion kit it will be just like the original.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 16:49:57 GMT -7
I think Austin Speaker Works will recone these with their Elegante kit. That might be an interesting option. I've heard good things about those. I would go this route. I'm using an Elegante in a 1x12 with my DB4 now and it's everything the Gold was and more. It even sounds glorious with the Z Plus. The Elegante is what I imagine Alnico speakers sound like in heaven...
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Post by Maddog on Mar 23, 2018 7:46:49 GMT -7
At the recommendation of Tone Quest Report magazine, I use Tom Colvin's "Speaker Workshop" in Ft. Wayne Ind. He re-coned a total of 8 late 1950's Jensen P10R's for me at different times over the last 5-6 years. He uses the correct kits for any speaker he repairs, so they sound great! Mine sound wonderful now, and are still withstanding a lot of abuse (cranked 45 watt '58 Bassman) all these years later....
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Mar 25, 2018 13:04:36 GMT -7
This thread puts my nerves on edge, because I just bought a brand new 12" Gold for the upcoming release of Doc's 30th Anniversary LE Mazerati. I'm breaking it in with my Therapy (sounds great!) and it hasn't shown any sign of breaking a sweat, but this kind of makes me nervous.
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Post by bryan0418 on Mar 25, 2018 20:26:45 GMT -7
This thread puts my nerves on edge, because I just bought a brand new 12" Gold for the upcoming release of Doc's 30th Anniversary LE Mazerati. I'm breaking it in with my Therapy (sounds great!) and it hasn't shown any sign of breaking a sweat, but this kind of makes me nervous. I honestly wouldn't worry about it. I have been running a Gold in there for a couple years with no issues. My buddy also brought by his Victory RK amp a week before my speaker blew and we ran it up pretty high. I am starting to think the Victory could have caused some damage and profiling the amp just finished it. The plot thickens!
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Post by "Z" Steve on Mar 25, 2018 22:00:43 GMT -7
This thread puts my nerves on edge, because I just bought a brand new 12" Gold for the upcoming release of Doc's 30th Anniversary LE Mazerati. I'm breaking it in with my Therapy (sounds great!) and it hasn't shown any sign of breaking a sweat, but this kind of makes me nervous. I wouldn't worry too much Dave. Even though I don't gig this loud anymore, when I bought my Remedy I also bought a Gold to put in a new Z 1x12 convertible cab. I was playing a few outdoor gigs on 20 watts, but the other guitar player had a SF Twin he was blaring so I clicked over to 40 watts and showed him who has more authority. It was glorious, and I wish it happened more, but the Gold is still sounding great.
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Post by captainron (Ron) on Apr 13, 2018 7:48:30 GMT -7
I'm following this as I just blew a Blue with my Stangray. Weber, Colvin, or Austin speaker repair? Decisions decisions!!!
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Post by bryan0418 on Apr 13, 2018 9:56:42 GMT -7
I'm following this as I just blew a Blue with my Stangray. Weber, Colvin, or Austin speaker repair? Decisions decisions!!! Bummer on blowing the Blue... I have yet to send my 12" Gold speaker in for repair. I am debating to go with either the Speaker Workshop or speakerrepairpros.com. Does anyone prefer one over the other? I also contacted Weber and they said they can do it but it didn't sound like they would use authentic Celestion parts. Can a speaker ever be like new again after a recone? Would I be better off selling it as is and let someone use it as a project?
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Post by captainron (Ron) on May 5, 2018 6:42:54 GMT -7
I'm following this as I just blew a Blue with my Stangray. Weber, Colvin, or Austin speaker repair? Decisions decisions!!! Bummer on blowing the Blue... Can a speaker ever be like new again after a recone? Would I be better off selling it as is and let someone use it as a project?
You took the words right out of my mouth! I have the same 2 questions!
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Post by captainron (Ron) on May 23, 2018 7:46:20 GMT -7
I'm following this as I just blew a Blue with my Stangray. Weber, Colvin, or Austin speaker repair? Decisions decisions!!! Bummer on blowing the Blue... I have yet to send my 12" Gold speaker in for repair. I am debating to go with either the Speaker Workshop or speakerrepairpros.com. Does anyone prefer one over the other? I also contacted Weber and they said they can do it but it didn't sound like they would use authentic Celestion parts. Can a speaker ever be like new again after a recone? Would I be better off selling it as is and let someone use it as a project? Thanks Bryan, Have you decided who to use?
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Post by bryan0418 on May 23, 2018 13:54:38 GMT -7
Bummer on blowing the Blue... I have yet to send my 12" Gold speaker in for repair. I am debating to go with either the Speaker Workshop or speakerrepairpros.com. Does anyone prefer one over the other? I also contacted Weber and they said they can do it but it didn't sound like they would use authentic Celestion parts. Can a speaker ever be like new again after a recone? Would I be better off selling it as is and let someone use it as a project? Thanks Bryan, Have you decided who to use? I ended up selling the speaker for $50. I could have sent it out for repair but decided I would always think the speaker was off cause it wasn't original. I am weird like that. I ended up buying a Alnico Cream for my Mazerati. So far it sounds pretty good in there. There is no way I am gonna blow that one!
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Post by Jefferson on Jul 4, 2018 20:01:28 GMT -7
I think you just had a bit of a lemon. I don’t see how profiling with a kemper could blow a speaker, especially as you describe the situation.
Makes me wonder if they accidentally grabbed a part designed to be used in the lower wattage blue...
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