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Feb 16, 2018 20:16:33 GMT -7
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Post by Rhythmark on Feb 16, 2018 20:16:33 GMT -7
What microphones are you using? For. Guitar amp speaker- Vocals Acoustic guitar?
Im looking for something better than a 57 and 58. This is for recording. Thanks!
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on Feb 16, 2018 20:46:59 GMT -7
IMHO, a big part of getting really good amp recordings is in using multiple mics in different positions- one on the speaker, another a few feet back, etc. 57’s work great on the speaker. Ribbons and large condenser mics are good further back and for room ambiance.
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Feb 17, 2018 11:28:18 GMT -7
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Post by Rhythmark on Feb 17, 2018 11:28:18 GMT -7
IMHO, a big part of getting really good amp recordings is in using multiple mics in different positions- one on the speaker, another a few feet back, etc. 57’s work great on the speaker. Ribbons and large condenser mics are good further back and for room ambiance. Thanks- i need to get some new mics- I seen that other thread on the voodoo ribbon mics and may buy one to try out- That is the point of this thread is to see what brand mics people are using for recording. I am in the market for maybe 2 new mics. Im leaning towards a ribbon mic so far.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 13:52:00 GMT -7
Using more than one microphone is more difficult than it sounds. Often it introduces problems. Ribbon Mics are by nature figure 8 pattern mics. They pick up sound from the front and the back. They also don't have the "proximity effect" that most dynamic mics have. You can record with a ribbon and it doesn't have to be stuffed up in the grill of the amp. Even as little as 9" away from the speaker will bring some "space" into the sound. Ribbons really are worth the effort.
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Post by KeithA on Feb 17, 2018 14:06:44 GMT -7
I want a ribbon but haven't gotten one yet.
I have a Blue Mic Blubird and Spark LDCs for amps and other stuff. Love the vibe.
I have a pair of Rode M5s for acoustic guitar. Price performers 😎
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Post by j4gitr (John) on Feb 18, 2018 22:28:15 GMT -7
I have used the Cascade Fat Head ribbon mic with satisfying results. It's on the more affordable side as ribbons go, and every now and then they have a "B- stock" sale.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 6:26:03 GMT -7
I have used the Cascade Fat Head ribbon mic with satisfying results. It's on the more affordable side as ribbons go, and every now and then they have a "B- stock" sale. I like the Cascades a lot. Especially the ones with the upgraded transformers. It was the Cascade with the upgraded transformer that I was comparing the new SE Ribbons to last week. I liked the SE's even more. We went with them for the Overheads but still used the Cascades on some other stuff. On a guitar amp and for some percussion overdubs.
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Feb 19, 2018 6:47:38 GMT -7
Post by sharkboy on Feb 19, 2018 6:47:38 GMT -7
I have a pair of Cascade Fat Heads with Lundahl transformers. I mostly use 3 mics. I put a close mic straight out from the face of the amp, offset to outside the center ring. I back it off by about 6-12" and move it around a bit. That mic is usually a Sennheiser MD421. I sometimes then have a above/behind the open back cab- that one will probably now be a Fat Head, but I have used several mics for this. Further out front, I often use a large diaphragm condenser at around ear level.
My thinking is that you get the best sound you can with each. Then you make sure that you get phase correct. Then you make the best one dominant for what you're going for and mix in the other two to taste. In a previous life, I pretty much used one setup, since two of the mics never had to move and the room mic was easy to reposition (ear level and not terribly dependent upon perfection.) You can easily go away from multiple mics if you can get a good sound with one. I seem to be challenged at this, so I try to get a little more of the room.
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Feb 19, 2018 18:27:42 GMT -7
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Post by Rhythmark on Feb 19, 2018 18:27:42 GMT -7
I have a se voodoo vr1 coming in so it will be fun to hear how it sounds. Ill definitely try multiple mic set ups too!
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Mar 9, 2018 23:11:21 GMT -7
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Post by zpilot on Mar 9, 2018 23:11:21 GMT -7
Of course this, as in everything, depends on how much you want to spend. If I had the cash I would go for an AKG C414. I've used that in a studio and fell in love with it. Sounds wonderful and is VERY versitile.
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Mar 12, 2018 18:41:26 GMT -7
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Post by ss "Shane" on Mar 12, 2018 18:41:26 GMT -7
I went with good budget mics...two SM58’s
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Mar 14, 2018 6:21:36 GMT -7
Post by Rhino on Mar 14, 2018 6:21:36 GMT -7
I've got an Sennheiser e609, SM57 and MXL DX-2 and find myself using the MXL more than the other two. Cool idea with the dual-diaphram design.
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Jun 7, 2018 10:00:53 GMT -7
Post by KeithA on Jun 7, 2018 10:00:53 GMT -7
I've always wanted a ribbon...but I always sweat a little when I looked the the price tag (based on the amount of times I would use it).
This week my local shop bought in a Royer R10. At US$500 I may take the plunge.
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Jun 26, 2018 7:31:30 GMT -7
Post by John E. on Jun 26, 2018 7:31:30 GMT -7
In our studio we use 4 microphones. For guitars and bass we usually use Axe FX but if we REALLY want a certain sound, like fuzzed out guitar, we mic an amp.
Vocals: AKG C414 or a Neumann TLM-102 Guitar Amps: SM57 (close, about 6-8 inches from cone, angled towards center), Sennheiser E609 (Close, about 3 inches from cone), AKG C414 (Room Mic, about 6-10 feet from amp depending on situation), Neumann TLM 170 R (Room Mic, usually on my balcony overlooking the living room which is out amp room, vaulted ceilings, really use this to add ambience) Acoustic Guitar: We don't record acoustic much, so when we do we like to have fun with it. Usually the AKG about a foot and a half away from 12th fret, then sometimes if we really want to just have fun with it we'll put one of the Neumann's a little farther away but more in front of the soundhole, usually about 6 feet away for strumming stuff and closer for softer stuff. We also always plug into the Axe FX for a DI signal as well as use mics to add effects if need be.
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Post by The Bad Poodle Experience on Jun 26, 2018 14:42:41 GMT -7
It's always good to have options... this was the vocal mic set up when we cut our band demo a few years back. More because we just couldn't decide which would work best than because it makes any good sense.
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Jun 26, 2018 15:58:02 GMT -7
Post by GuitarZ on Jun 26, 2018 15:58:02 GMT -7
I just spent the last two weeks investigating speaker impulse responses and available boxes/foot pedals. Anyhow, "jhen86 (jordan)" pointed me to some free IR downloads and suggested Celestion has some good products relatively cheap. The cool thing was that these things come with different mic positions and mic types. After messing with the free ones and then downloading five Celestion cabinets, the setup that fit me was a closed back Greenback cabinet with an SM57 on the grill with a dark tone (or towards the edge of the cone). I messed with the other mics and positions and kept coming back to that one. And, wa la, it's basically my setup with my IsoCab.
The non-57's tended to add too much brightness for me. The 57 was focused and the guitar sat in the mix nicely. The MD421 was pretty good for me too.
If you have access to an IR loader and a way to get your amp into your recording software, it's a great way to experiment to get a feel for what you like without spending much money. I only anted up $29 for five Celestion cabinets. A 4x12 Gold was a nice sounding cabinet also which would have cost a lot of dollars in real life.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 8:36:23 GMT -7
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Jun 27, 2018 12:49:16 GMT -7
Post by GuitarZ on Jun 27, 2018 12:49:16 GMT -7
That thing is aptly named. It looks like it would be right at home in a Voodoo ceremony. It's so ugly, I'll agree with their marketing that it looks kind of cool. The reviews echo Rosco.
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Nov 29, 2018 13:19:27 GMT -7
Post by The Bad Poodle Experience on Nov 29, 2018 13:19:27 GMT -7
Last 8 years i've been using a friends mic for vocals and finally needed to give it back to him so i went on the hunt for something inexpensive to fill that need. I picked this up for just over $100 but i've not had a chance to use it yet. will let you know my thoughts... hopefully the low price isn't indicative of the sound quality.
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Post by gotmojo on Apr 4, 2019 5:15:01 GMT -7
We have found that a superb mic for doing any and everything (though I’ve never used it for kick or bass) is the AT 4033, $400 new, in the $200’s on Reverb/eBay. Condenser, cardioid. Great for voice, acoustic, electric snare, Leslie. I think if I were on a budget and could have only one mic, it would be the 4033. We have a couple and never feel like “oh, that wouldn’t be a good mic” for a track, we reach for it on a regular basis. And we have a fair number of great mics (Neuman, Royer, Manley). Another super cool mic that is unbelievably versatile, albeit a bit pricey, is the Royer 121, a ribbon mic with great depth. Add these two to your 57/58 and you can do anything. 2 mics on an amp plus a room mic. Glyn John’s 3 or 4 mics on drum technique. Will open up your recording world with tons of mic experiments that will keep you satisfied for years!
one man’s opinion. However, this opinion comes from a guy who repeatedly goes into debt to buy recording and guitar gear (it’s worth it!).
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Jun 16, 2019 15:15:35 GMT -7
Post by telebender on Jun 16, 2019 15:15:35 GMT -7
late reply but, i use a 57 with or without a Fathead and sometimes a SM7B for electric and I'm not sure this would change regardless of the mic locker (well, maybe try another ribbon). My limited experience in professional studios was a 57 sometimes paired with a ribbon (mostly 121) or sometimes (expensive) LDC and sometimes (expensive) LDC back in the room but probably not even used.
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