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Post by Lefty on Jan 14, 2006 22:39:11 GMT -7
I went and ordered the Line 6 Verbzilla. I don't need 'verb but it's fun to have when noodling around to add a little space. My Q is should I put it in the effects loop? Or would it be best infront? My first bet is to add it in the loop. If I had my Fender verb, that's where I would put it. Anyone put a 'verb FX in the FX loop?
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Post by jakeddy on Jan 15, 2006 6:05:14 GMT -7
I have one and so far I've only played around with it on front of the amp as my amp doesn't have a loop. This I will share, the Tone Core pedals have mixed reviews about being noisy, just use a good power sipply and you'll be ok.
In case anyone else is thinking about getting one, the best deal I've found on them was at Full Compass, far better than Musician's Friend.
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Post by John on Jan 15, 2006 6:42:04 GMT -7
In general, if your amp has an effects loop, I ALWAYS put reverb and delay effects throught the loop. Modulation (flange, chorus), EQ and Overdrive/distortion usually go in front.
If you're using an all in one unit, I always put that in the loop.
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Post by redheadmaz18 on Jan 15, 2006 8:49:14 GMT -7
I have the eh holy grail and to me ..it sounds a little more natural in the fx loop
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 15, 2006 9:31:18 GMT -7
If you drive your amp into distortion you don't want the reverb in front.
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Post by bluzsteel on Jan 15, 2006 10:34:34 GMT -7
If you drive your amp into distortion you don't want the reverb in front. what he said .........gets real weird in front with pedals as well
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Post by garyh on Jan 15, 2006 12:26:58 GMT -7
I put my verb in the effects loop. It's dead quiet there. It gets noisy if I put it in front. Also, like others are saying, you want to add ambience to your distortion, not distort your ambience. So, if you're not using a totally clean sound, put it after the preamp (in the loop).
This is a bit of a pain with a pedal board, of course, because some pedals will output to the amp's input and others to the loop.......more connections.
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Post by jwr on Jan 15, 2006 19:14:23 GMT -7
What they said! Delay and reverb in front of a dirty amp just gets messy.
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Post by tele1962 on Jan 16, 2006 8:28:05 GMT -7
Unless you're playing large venues, there's nothing finer than a Hammond dual spring reverb in a Fender blackface combo from the early to mid 60's. You can pedal your face off and never get there!
I'm also agreeing with Gary and others here who say if distortion is pedal generated especially...then reverb gets in the way, and creates a mess. A nice natural overdrive from a smaller Fender amp sounded great with a splash of verb, but nothing created with a pedal sounded great in the same setting. IMHO.
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Post by garyh on Feb 5, 2006 12:54:03 GMT -7
I've changed my mind. I previously agreed with pretty well everyone here that a reverb should go in the loop and in theory, that is correct; but I just got a couple of pedals (the new Marshall reverb and a Line 6 space chorus) and they sucked tone seriously in the loop. I also noticed a volume drop and softening of the sound. I checked each one separately including my old Ibanez delay and they all sucked tone big time. There was no noise, however.
Then I tried out each one in front of the amp and all sounded great; separately or together. The tradeoff was a small amount of hiss but gorgeous tone. The noise is minimal enough and I'll live with that any day rather than lose tone. I was going to return the pedals but now realize the problem isn't with them.
If anyone has been using their effects loop for a while, I suggest you should try the ambient pedals in the front end (after overdrives and compressor, of course) to make sure you're getting the best tone. I used my loop for quite a while and didn't realize that was compromising my sound. It could just be my loop. I don't know but it's worthwhile tp re-evaluate once in a while anyway.
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