willv
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Post by willv on Jan 16, 2018 21:58:44 GMT -7
Hello! The Dr. Z cure was my first purchase in the realm of boutique amps, and I've been playing it for just over 6 months now with my Blackout Tele. I love it - I love the cleans, I love having the master and volume cranked, I love how it handles pedals, it's all great! I use a few time/modulation effects and find myself needing both a clean and driven channel. Because of the effects, I'd like to keep the Cure set clean and get my drive from a pedal (I haven't been able to tame the effects loop, my delay and reverb sound very VERY shallow and fizzy). Am I correct in assuming tubescreamer based pedals won't play nice due to the pronounced mid-range? Would love to hear some recommendations of mid-gain pedals that play nice!
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Post by zaddn on Jan 17, 2018 5:01:59 GMT -7
I’ve actually had some success with a mythos Herculean, which is an 808 variant. With that being said, as with all ts style pedals, I find I have to get the volume on the pedal cranking for it to sound right. I’ve got a mythos mjolnir klone coming in soon that I plan on using as a low gain or clean boost and will report back.
My buddy has a couple odr-1 originals that sounded great through the cure. Haven’t tried a reissue though. I’d suggest checking the originals out. Mythos makes the erlking which is a odr variant and so does xts.
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Post by mpa93 on Jan 17, 2018 6:07:31 GMT -7
Fulltone OCD set with the drive below half should do it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 6:23:14 GMT -7
Really depends what you're after. Do you want a pedal that's transparent, or is some coloring of your tone okay? Likewise compression--a little, a lot, or none? Scooped or mids forward? Hard or soft clipping? Country, blues or rock? It sounds like you're fairly selective, tone-wise (why else would you be playing a Z?), so maybe think about going a bit higher end for your OD needs. I've had great results with the Jetter GS-124 with the Cure as a mid-to-high gainer. Also, I'm really digging the Wampler Paisley Deluxe, a do-it-all dual OD/distortion. At a more modest price point, try the Barber Gain Changer--super pedal with some nice voicing options.
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Post by doctorice on Jan 17, 2018 7:02:09 GMT -7
A decent low-cost way to get started is to pick up a used Boss BD-2.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jan 17, 2018 7:05:27 GMT -7
I second the Gain Changer and the BD-2. My GC really sounds nice with my Cure.
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willv
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Post by willv on Jan 17, 2018 7:36:29 GMT -7
Thanks everyone for the suggestions so far! I used to have a two channel Traynor YCS50/15. I loved the drive channel when cranked with the mids slightly scooped, it was closer to a distortion than overdrive, so maybe I'm actually looking for a mid-high gain overdrive/distortion. I don't want to get into stacking as I'm trying to keep it simple, but don't mind more knobs if that means finding what i'm looking for.
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Post by Rhythmark on Jan 17, 2018 8:17:02 GMT -7
Id throw a green infront and turn the mids down on the amp. If its doesn’t lose your clean tone.
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Post by Stephen on Jan 17, 2018 13:48:40 GMT -7
Plus one on the BD-2. I also like the TS-9.
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Post by LT on Jan 18, 2018 7:29:28 GMT -7
I use a BD-2 (Keeley mod) for a lower level OD. Welcome to the forum!
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Post by zacmac on Jan 18, 2018 12:17:20 GMT -7
I am digging the analogman prince of tone right now (1/2 of a king of tone). You might want to try a fulldrive 2 on flat mids mode. also the bearfoot honey bee has been one of my favorites.
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Post by Chilly Gibbons (Todd T.) on Jan 18, 2018 14:06:18 GMT -7
I’m not big OD/Distortion pedal fan/user and I’ve tried a lot of them. One that I like and use with my home brew amps is the latest version of the JHS Iced Tea. TS on one side and Angry Charlie on the other. Can get really heavy when needed. Full tone stack. Really punchy.
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Post by tenbrooks on Jan 19, 2018 7:13:51 GMT -7
I use an xotic RC Booster with gain turned up to 3 o'clock or dimed. I also briefly used an AC booster, it sounded great but I have a Zendrive and stack it with the RC. That's all the drive pedals I need so far.
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Post by LT on Jan 19, 2018 17:59:59 GMT -7
Thanks everyone for the suggestions so far! I used to have a two channel Traynor YCS50/15. I loved the drive channel when cranked with the mids slightly scooped, it was closer to a distortion than overdrive, so maybe I'm actually looking for a mid-high gain overdrive/distortion. I don't want to get into stacking as I'm trying to keep it simple, but don't mind more knobs if that means finding what i'm looking for. Give the Fulltone Plimsoul a listen.
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Post by southmusic70 on Jan 19, 2018 18:31:23 GMT -7
I’m with LT
Fulltone Plimsoul
It has a lot of range
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Post by LT on Jan 19, 2018 20:00:03 GMT -7
I gig my Cure clean and use two OD's for dirt. I set the Volume at 11 o'clock, Master dimed, Level as needed. Tone controls are all basically at noon or so per the room. I don't use the tone stack bypass foot switch. I don't use the fx loop.
The Plimsoul might be what you are looking for. It's an OD with a built in distortion circuit that you can blend in.
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Post by Ryan (shorty) on Jan 20, 2018 6:06:30 GMT -7
They have been mentioned, but both the King of Tone and Gain Changer sound great through the Cure. You really can’t go wrong with either of those pedals with any amp.
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Post by zaddn on Jan 20, 2018 8:19:26 GMT -7
I gig my Cure clean and use two OD's for dirt. I set the Volume at 11 o'clock, Master dimed, Level as needed. Tone controls are all basically at noon or so per the room. I don't use the tone stack bypass foot switch. I don't use the fx loop. The Plimsoul might be what you are looking for. It's an OD with a built in distortion circuit that you can blend in. I’ve seen people with these settings for clean a lot, but for the life of me I can’t kee the amp clean without having be master around noon and the pre around 10. Even then I have to back off my guitar volume, even with my teles. Not complaining about the tones I do get, but I just wonder if I’m missing something?
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Post by LT on Jan 20, 2018 9:36:04 GMT -7
I gig my Cure clean and use two OD's for dirt. I set the Volume at 11 o'clock, Master dimed, Level as needed. Tone controls are all basically at noon or so per the room. I don't use the tone stack bypass foot switch. I don't use the fx loop. The Plimsoul might be what you are looking for. It's an OD with a built in distortion circuit that you can blend in. I’ve seen people with these settings for clean a lot, but for the life of me I can’t kee the amp clean without having be master around noon and the pre around 10. Even then I have to back off my guitar volume, even with my teles. Not complaining about the tones I do get, but I just wonder if I’m missing something? Hmmm....I don't want to hijack the thread but my experience in getting an amp to run clean is to dime the master and adjust the input to the volume needed. I use the same theory with the Cure, but use the Level to adjust overall volume. Your Cure should stay clean if you roll that master up and use Level to back the overall volume down. Note that my definition of clean is not 100% spanky clean (think Twin Reverb). There is a little grit with the GV rolled up to full, especially with humbuggies.
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Post by Stephen on Jan 20, 2018 13:52:34 GMT -7
Here is what I do to get clean on the Cure: master and level at 5:00 and use volume to adjust to taste.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Jan 20, 2018 15:48:18 GMT -7
Spent a good part of the day re-arranging my pedal board, and using the Cure for my go to amp. It really likes most all of my drive pedals. It really likes my Bogner Ecstacy Red, and the Plexi Drive Deluxe too. I mentioned the Gain Changer earlier, and the Lovepedal JCM or Jubilee sound nice too. It really depends on your goal, but I'm finding that this little amp digests most everything I toss at it well. I'll be getting a Plimsoul from brother Lou on Monday and I'm really looking forward to putting that toward the rear of the chain. But I'll try it both ways too. More often than not I am surprised at the way pedals stack or don't stack...I have learned that you just have to try it.
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Post by willv on Jan 21, 2018 19:02:54 GMT -7
Thanks again everyone. I actually picked up a JHS Morning Glory V4 this past week; it's been one i've been curious to try out. After playing around with the volume and master for half an hour I found some settings that work great and give me the sound I've been looking for - Volume 1:00, Master 3:00, and the level wherever it needs to be.
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Post by zacmac on Jan 21, 2018 20:44:52 GMT -7
Thanks again everyone. I actually picked up a JHS Morning Glory V4 this past week; it's been one i've been curious to try out. After playing around with the volume and master for half an hour I found some settings that work great and give me the sound I've been looking for - Volume 1:00, Master 3:00, and the level wherever it needs to be. I love the morning glory side of the Double Barrel. thats a killer combo pedal!
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Post by tenbrooks on Jan 23, 2018 7:52:20 GMT -7
I’ve seen people with these settings for clean a lot, but for the life of me I can’t kee the amp clean without having be master around noon and the pre around 10. Even then I have to back off my guitar volume, even with my teles. Not complaining about the tones I do get, but I just wonder if I’m missing something? Hmmm....I don't want to hijack the thread but my experience in getting an amp to run clean is to dime the master and adjust the input to the volume needed. I use the same theory with the Cure, but use the Level to adjust overall volume. Your Cure should stay clean if you roll that master up and use Level to back the overall volume down. Note that my definition of clean is not 100% spanky clean (think Twin Reverb). There is a little grit with the GV rolled up to full, especially with humbuggies. I put a NOS RCA 5751 in V1. It cleans the amp up considerably. Of course there's a slight volume drop, so the level control can be opened up more. If that's what a person needs, this works really well.
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Post by tenbrooks on Jan 23, 2018 11:43:03 GMT -7
Another thing to consider, try lowering your pickup(s). If a pickup is adjusted really high it will increase the signal to the preamp and allow easier overdrive.
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Post by zacmac on Jan 26, 2018 11:45:12 GMT -7
Last night I rehearsed with the band using my Cure, 52 Tele reissue and an Analogman Sunface BC108 (a 1969 fuzz face clone). Using the volume and tone on guitar I loved the tone.
We went though half a dozen pedals in front of it messing around and the runner up was a mid 90's TS9 reissue. Everything that people have filled the internet up with complaining about stock tubescreamers just kind of goes away when you add the band and you get a really good tone that gets out in front when needed.
Go figure
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Post by Rhythmark on Jan 27, 2018 19:42:57 GMT -7
Last night I rehearsed with the band using my Cure, 52 Tele reissue and an Analogman Sunface BC108 (a 1969 fuzz face clone). Using the volume and tone on guitar I loved the tone. We went though half a dozen pedals in front of it messing around and the runner up was a mid 90's TS9 reissue. Everything that people have filled the internet up with complaining about stock tubescreamers just kind of goes away when you add the band and you get a really good tone that gets out in front when needed. Go figure i use a ts9 along with some others- but i got an upgrade parts kit from keeley for it and that pedals been with me for 20 years- i still use it but also a klon ktr.
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Post by zacmac on Feb 5, 2018 13:28:23 GMT -7
I need to add the now out of production Jetter Helium. It sounds very natural
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Post by graybeard65 on Feb 27, 2018 12:34:25 GMT -7
Perhaps resurrecting an old thread - but I'm using the Cure with the VOL at 11 o'clock, master dimed, treble and master at around 1 o'clock, and mids at 11-ish. For light to medium gain, I've got an older OCD set to unity, with the tone at noon and the gain at one, and a Wampler pinnacle for mid to high gain - Guitars are an old Les Paul custom, and a newer ES-335
Takes me from sweet cleans to modern hard rock with the volume knob and pedals -
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