Post by mrpendleton on May 11, 2017 17:32:32 GMT -7
Trying to decide which one to buy. Neither maker has a dealer close by, and it's hard to decide from YouTube videos. I have a Ghia, I love it, but I want to add a 6v6 amp. Opinions would be greatly appreciated!
I have owned a couple of Z28's and loved them. Unique sounding amp. I especially loved the way it would break up and the thick fat cleans always sound great.
I also have a Ghia, a Z28 would pair nicely allowing you cover a lot of tonal ground between the two amps as there would little or no overlap in their tones.
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I was in the market two years ago for a brand new amplifier that used 6v6 power tubes. Several boutique amplifiers were considered. Two of the amplifiers that were on my short list included the Z-28 and the Ventura. Both use the EF-86 preamp tube. Both are good amps. They were played side by side. I chose the Z-28. To my ear the Z-28 had a slightly fuller and more desirable clean tone. I also liked that the Z-28 allowed the opportunity to have more flexibility with the bass and treble controls to shape the tone. It is a very versatile amplifier.
I had a Ventura when the first came out. It was a nice amp but the clean channel just left something to be desired. It felt sterile and not a lot of volume. The dirty side was pretty good but I ended up selling it. Not an expert on the Z28 but IMHO that's the way I would go.
I have both. My Ventura (head) is for sale on Reverb.
They're similar, but different. The master volume on the Ventura is pretty good. You can set up your rig and then dial in the volume to suit. It also has easy access to both channels and its boost/bump via footswitch. On the Z-28 you need a Brake Lite or other attenuator to tailor the output volume since the volume knob on the amp plays a big role in the tone shaping.
Of course, you have a single "voice" on the Z-28 and to footswitch a boost or eq change, you'll need pedals.
The other big difference, imo, is the active nature of the Z-28's bass and treble controls. I felt there were more, albeit subtle, tone options in the Z-28.
I do hope someone buys my Ventura
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Sept 8, 2017 7:50:49 GMT -7
I tried both way back......Z28 has more depth of tone and versatility...........I had a Power Scaling MV retrofitted once it was out of warranty......I like it much better than an attenuator, but it is a physical mod which some may not like. It does not alter the tone at all, at least to my ears One of the Docs best amps ever, IMHO
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Post by Christopher on Sept 8, 2017 19:30:12 GMT -7
I've owned both as well. The Ventura was an ok amp but the bypass for the lead sound was impossible to use because there was no level control and when engaged it made the amp so loud it was uncomplimentary to the situation. The Z-28 is the one I got a second of because it suits my needs better. It's portable, toneful and the knobs work their full range without need for a tone bypass lead tone.
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