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Post by JeffG on Jan 6, 2017 13:38:19 GMT -7
A friend of mine who has one came over the other day and man did it sound good! He recommended that I get on the list since it's long and when my time rolls around I can choose to decline if I don't want one. I figured what the heck, might as well!
So I got on the website to figure out how to do it and then thought it looked familiar. So I checked my email and I had already put my name on the list almost a year ago to the day! I'd forgotten I'd signed up but was happy that I had! Hopefully I'll get an email sooner rather than later, although if I hear by summer I'll consider myself lucky.
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Post by limenine on Jan 6, 2017 13:44:15 GMT -7
Nice A couple of years ago someone here advised us all to just get on the list and forget about it - even if you pick one up and wind up disliking it, it's not like it's tough to sell (especially if you price it reasonably). I did just that, and I'm happy with it.
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Post by JeffG on Jan 6, 2017 13:46:32 GMT -7
Exactly! I'm pretty happy with the pedal I have now (Paul C. Tim v2) that the KOT might replace, so I'm not in a rush. But I'd like to A/B them and see which I like better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 14:07:56 GMT -7
Why they don't just hire a guy and make a crapload of them is beyond me.
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Post by 195db on Jan 6, 2017 15:19:45 GMT -7
I only got on last July. Got a long way to go.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 16:42:14 GMT -7
Why they don't just hire a guy and make a crapload of them is beyond me. Analog Mike has a solid business model going on this. Just think about it. He has a steady income stream almost guaranteed for the next 18 months. Meanwhile, buzz continues to grow and more people get on the list...
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Post by helmi on Jan 6, 2017 17:08:37 GMT -7
Why they don't just hire a guy and make a crapload of them is beyond me. No disrespect intended to anyone, but the day i decide to wait 2 or 3 years for a overdrive pedal, (or any pedal) i dont care how good it sounds, when there's a gazillion of them out there, is the day i hope someone slaps the living $hit out of me until i'm senseless. just my 2 cents.
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Post by Lefty on Jan 6, 2017 17:58:31 GMT -7
Why they don't just hire a guy and make a crapload of them is beyond me. If I recall the POT is made outside his shop. There has been a long time problem with people buying them just to flip them for a profit. The list drastically cuts down on this. I got my POT within minutes of him posting them available on his site. I had one of the original KOT's in the small box. It was great, I can't justify buying a KOT when the POT does what I need it to.
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Post by BritInvasion on Jan 6, 2017 17:59:32 GMT -7
At my age it's not prudent to get on a long waiting list...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 18:18:11 GMT -7
Why they don't just hire a guy and make a crapload of them is beyond me. If I recall the POT is made outside his shop. There has been a long time problem with people buying them just to flip them for a profit. The list drastically cuts down on this. I got my POT within minutes of him posting them available on his site. I had one of the original KOT's in the small box. It was great, I can't justify buying a KOT when the POT does what I need it to. What would solve the "problem" of people flipping them online is making enough of them to satisfy demand. They'd save on managing the waitlist, too. But it's all about maintaining the aura of mystery, or something. The KoT is really a pretty average OD pedal when you actually a/b it with others of similar design. I should know--I've owned three of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 18:45:16 GMT -7
If I recall the POT is made outside his shop. There has been a long time problem with people buying them just to flip them for a profit. The list drastically cuts down on this. I got my POT within minutes of him posting them available on his site. I had one of the original KOT's in the small box. It was great, I can't justify buying a KOT when the POT does what I need it to. What would solve the "problem" of people flipping them online is making enough of them to satisfy demand. They'd save on managing the waitlist, too. But it's all about maintaining the aura of mystery, or something. The KoT is really a pretty average OD pedal when you actually a/b it with others of similar design. I should know--I've owned three of them. I'd be interested to know what you feel is on par with the KoT or PoT? I've owned way more dirt boxes than I care to count. The only thing I'd put on par with Analogman is the Mythical Overdrive and some of the more costly Klon types. I haven't found an OD pedal that blends seamlessly with an amp quite like the PoT/KoT do, and that includes favorites such as the Timmy, Gain Changer (and I love the Gain Changer), Sweet Honey, Z Drive (close, but the red channel is not my cup of tea), Keeley, Xotic, etc.
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Post by "Z" Steve on Jan 6, 2017 19:51:52 GMT -7
I waited over two years for a KOT, and I waited over 5 months for a Hermida Zendrive. This was back when the hype was just starting to peak. But when I finally got the pedals and put them on my pedal board I discovered pretty quick that these pedals were not for me. I hated that, partly because of the "status" of having them but also because it did nothing for "my tone". After selling each one of them for a hefty profit I discovered the secret to these two pedals. You need to be playing at a very good volume to get them to engage with your amp and pickups, and I never played gigs that allowed that. My Tim/Timmy work great at that so that is why I keep them. Now, no one looks at my pedal board with envy - but they always stare and my amps! Now I'm envious of those who get to gig at that volume! Crank it up!!
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Post by limenine on Jan 6, 2017 22:21:43 GMT -7
No disrespect intended to anyone, but the day i decide to wait 2 or 3 years for a overdrive pedal, (or any pedal) i dont care how good it sounds, when there's a gazillion of them out there, is the day i hope someone slaps the living $hit out of me until i'm senseless. just my 2 cents. That seems a bit harsh to put in someone's thread about being on the waiting list. I waited because I wanted to try one, plain and simple. I didn't sit next to the mailbox like Charlie Brown on Valentine's day. In fact, it was kind of a pleasant surprise when I received the email saying I was up next.
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Post by helmi on Jan 7, 2017 2:58:02 GMT -7
No disrespect intended to anyone, but the day i decide to wait 2 or 3 years for a overdrive pedal, (or any pedal) i dont care how good it sounds, when there's a gazillion of them out there, is the day i hope someone slaps the living $hit out of me until i'm senseless. just my 2 cents. That seems a bit harsh to put in someone's thread about being on the waiting list. I waited because I wanted to try one, plain and simple. I didn't sit next to the mailbox like Charlie Brown on Valentine's day. In fact, it was kind of a pleasant surprise when I received the email saying I was up next. That's why i started the reply, "no disrespect intended to anyone". nothing personal about it at all. I, personally, do not have the patience to wait 2 or 3 yrs for a pedal, something that has a million other options, or to be honest, really anything!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 7:15:14 GMT -7
What would solve the "problem" of people flipping them online is making enough of them to satisfy demand. They'd save on managing the waitlist, too. But it's all about maintaining the aura of mystery, or something. The KoT is really a pretty average OD pedal when you actually a/b it with others of similar design. I should know--I've owned three of them. I'd be interested to know what you feel is on par with the KoT or PoT? I've owned way more dirt boxes than I care to count. The only thing I'd put on par with Analogman is the Mythical Overdrive and some of the more costly Klon types. I haven't found an OD pedal that blends seamlessly with an amp quite like the PoT/KoT do, and that includes favorites such as the Timmy, Gain Changer (and I love the Gain Changer), Sweet Honey, Z Drive (close, but the red channel is not my cup of tea), Keeley, Xotic, etc. It's a soft-clipping overdrive pedal with a clean-ish boost. Once you're in the band mix, it's pretty much indistinguishable from a hundred other dirt boxes. It also has an issue that I've found problematic, having owned it multiple times--it sounds kind of muffled or strangled unless you crank it, which means you're probably going to have to adjust your amp to suit the pedal instead of the other way around. My preferred soft-clipper at the moment is the Jetter GS 124, which is very full sounding even at low volume, and lacks the upper mid hump that's still present in the KoT (though not as much as in a Tube Screamer). I did like the KoT a lot with my Maz 18s for home practice, especially with a Strat, but I found that on stage it sounded a bit thin. Your mileage may vary, of course, and everybody's allowed to like what they like.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 9:13:02 GMT -7
I'd be interested to know what you feel is on par with the KoT or PoT? I've owned way more dirt boxes than I care to count. The only thing I'd put on par with Analogman is the Mythical Overdrive and some of the more costly Klon types. I haven't found an OD pedal that blends seamlessly with an amp quite like the PoT/KoT do, and that includes favorites such as the Timmy, Gain Changer (and I love the Gain Changer), Sweet Honey, Z Drive (close, but the red channel is not my cup of tea), Keeley, Xotic, etc. It's a soft-clipping overdrive pedal with a clean-ish boost. Once you're in the band mix, it's pretty much indistinguishable from a hundred other dirt boxes. It also has an issue that I've found problematic, having owned it multiple times--it sounds kind of muffled or strangled unless you crank it, which means you're probably going to have to adjust your amp to suit the pedal instead of the other way around. My preferred soft-clipper at the moment is the Jetter GS 124, which is very full sounding even at low volume, and lacks the upper mid hump that's still present in the KoT (though not as much as in a Tube Screamer). I did like the KoT a lot with my Maz 18s for home practice, especially with a Strat, but I found that on stage it sounded a bit thin. Your mileage may vary, of course, and everybody's allowed to like what they like. I agree, all of the well made OD pedals pretty much sound the same within a given family. Where the really good ones separate themselves is in how they feel. The PoT/KoT feel and respond exactly like a cooking tube amp. The Timmy doesn't do that, and even the venerable Gain Changer doesn't do that. Most of them trick you into thinking they're responsive by letting varying degrees of the clean signal sneak through (ahem, Sweet Honey)...
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Post by Easyrom on Jan 7, 2017 10:45:04 GMT -7
I'm a huge fan of the KoT (bought here from a nice Z-Talk fellow), but I would add both the Lazy J Cruiser and the Tchula from Lovepedal as responding like cooking amps as well. Actually, the shoot out I made between the KoT and the Tchula made me realize that the clean boost side of the KoT needs a fair amount on the gain knob to feel alive and juicy... And the OD side is the most perfect od to me.
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Post by texan2step on Jan 7, 2017 12:18:42 GMT -7
I just got on the list a while back myself. Can't wait to check it out just to see what all of the hype is about. Now having said that, I'm not expecting anything life altering, but I'm impressed by the sound I've heard and think this will work great for my needs. It's hard to go wrong with all of the great options these days.
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Post by JeffG on Jan 7, 2017 12:30:25 GMT -7
I agree that if you're in need of something now then waiting 18-24 months is just silly. I'm quite happy with the Tim but I figured that (1) if I wasn't in a rush, which I'm not and (2) if I didn't like it I could resell it easily for what I paid for it, then why the heck not get on the list? I don't care about hype (sorry Spaceman) but I know he makes quality stuff and it suits what I'm looking for - a dual function boost/OD pedal. Swapping it out with the Tim would be a 1 for 1 switch.
Good to know that it likes amps to be running at gig-level volumes to really come alive. That may be the deciding factor.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 14:56:54 GMT -7
It's not like people are saving an empty space on their pedalboards and not playing guitar, and instead just counting down the days until their KoT arrives. You get on the list, try other pedals and either buy the KoT or not when your name comes up. Pretty simple.
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Post by T-R☼CK ♫ on Jan 8, 2017 8:50:38 GMT -7
Why they don't just hire a guy and make a crapload of them is beyond me. No disrespect intended to anyone, but the day i decide to wait 2 or 3 years for a overdrive pedal, (or any pedal) i dont care how good it sounds, when there's a gazillion of them out there, is the day i hope someone slaps the living $hit out of me until i'm senseless. just my 2 cents. I'm your Huckleberry.
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Post by John on Jan 8, 2017 9:57:37 GMT -7
No disrespect intended to anyone, but the day i decide to wait 2 or 3 years for a overdrive pedal, (or any pedal) i dont care how good it sounds, when there's a gazillion of them out there, is the day i hope someone slaps the living $hit out of me until i'm senseless. just my 2 cents. I'm your Huckleberry. T-Rock? .....Wha-Choo doin' here on the forum??
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Post by GT Roger on Jan 9, 2017 12:29:55 GMT -7
I've been on the waiting list for about 6 months. I've got a couple Analogman pedals and I really dig their stuff. I have my overdrive sounds covered pretty good with a Timmy, Gain Changer and RYRA Klone, but I figured I'd give it a try. If it's not a tone improvement, it's a quick and easy sale.
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Post by Easyrom on Jan 9, 2017 13:37:00 GMT -7
I've been on the waiting list for about 6 months. I've got a couple Analogman pedals and I really dig their stuff. I have my overdrive sounds covered pretty good with a Timmy, Gain Changer and RYRA Klone, but I figured I'd give it a try. If it's not a tone improvement, it's a quick and easy sale. +1. The Astro Tone is fantastic. Had a Timmy (two, actually) and a few Klones (Arc, Archer...) but I finally sold them all and kept the KoT. Never tried the Gain Changer thought (Had a wonderful Barber LTD SR once. Great pedal!)
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Post by KeithA on Jan 9, 2017 14:19:35 GMT -7
What the hell, I jumped on the list today ! Can't hurt !
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Post by T-R☼CK ♫ on Jan 9, 2017 15:50:16 GMT -7
T-Rock? .....Wha-Choo doin' here on the forum?? Makin' sure you kids play nice...
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Post by zpilot on Jan 11, 2017 1:56:27 GMT -7
I was on the list at one time. By the time my name came up I had bought my Tim and a couple of other pedals that I really loved so I felt I no longer had a need for it. I let it pass. No regrets.
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Post by arafel on Jan 13, 2017 23:32:38 GMT -7
Take this with a grain of salt, because I am a huge Analogman fan. My pedal board is pretty much all Analogman stuff. I got a KOT about four years ago and haven't regretted it. I love the yellow side as a slightly overdriven boost. I run the volume on that and drive on that at 3 o'clock, and I run the volume and drive on the red side at noon. My other OD pedals are an Astrotone (great fuzz) and an Analogman silver mod TS9.
I can't remember if I had to be on a waiting list for a KOT, but I do remember waiting about 18 months to get the Analogman BiComp, and it was SO worth it. I love that compressor pedal. I have the Ross side on pretty much all the time, a la Trey Anastasio, and love what it does for my tone.
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Post by 62stratdoc on Feb 8, 2017 23:45:35 GMT -7
I love my King of Tone. I had a Prince while I waited. It's nice but just missed something comparatively.
Anyway I was on the waitlist for 16 months. But got my email on a Thursday and my pedal was at my house on Monday.
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Post by doctorice on Feb 9, 2017 10:19:13 GMT -7
I've posted in other threads how I keep coming back to KoT. Ran two or three others in its slot on the board this past week, had some fun, and then put it back on. I've got it after a compressor and another OD set for high gain. I can use the compressor to hit the first OD with a hotter signal or I can use the KoT yellow side as a post-OD boost. This is in addition to being able to run yellow, red or yellow --> red. (Yes, I have put everything but the compressor on at once. )
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