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Post by kfkm on Dec 20, 2016 7:43:57 GMT -7
I currently put money down on a Cure. I mean a Z-Lux at half power sounds great as I don't ever use it on full power and I also have a Z-Brake installed. Plus with that new level knob it appears it will work kind of like an attenuator anyway. The only thing I will miss is the reverb but with an effects loop and a good reverb pedal it will solve this problem. I am going to have to play them side by side for awhile when I get it and see which amp is worth holding onto for jams (probably keep both) but it is around 10 lbs lighter than that can be great for a gigging situation. Demo sounds good and just curious how many other Z-Lux users are going to pull the plug and order one of these also.
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Post by Stephen on Dec 20, 2016 8:20:50 GMT -7
I probably won't, though I am tempted. I have a Z-Lux, Z-28, and Maz 18 as well as a new Maz 8 I bought this summer. I'm between bands and the prospects don't look too promising. Otherwise ...
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Dec 20, 2016 9:38:32 GMT -7
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Post by Stan on Dec 20, 2016 9:59:10 GMT -7
I might when I know their shipping out to dealers,
I live offshore therefore I need to coordinate shipping dates on my end with boat schedules
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Post by wubberdubber on Dec 20, 2016 14:40:01 GMT -7
The CURE is the first newer Z to come along in a while that actually attracts me. The size, power, tube compliment, price, etc. sits right in the sweet spot I like and could use a lot in live application. This is most likely my next new amp.
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Post by doctorice on Dec 20, 2016 14:53:18 GMT -7
I have one on order. It will be in addition to the Z-Lux. My plan is to use the Cure at smaller venues and the Z-Lux at larger ones and outdoor events.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Dec 21, 2016 17:31:00 GMT -7
Would sure sound sweet as a stereo unit!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 12:02:45 GMT -7
As the owner of 2 Z-Luxes, I'd be very interested in hearing a side-by-side demo A/b-ing the Cure and the Lux. Not that I'm in the market, but you never know.
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Post by Faze on Dec 22, 2016 14:34:53 GMT -7
I tried my Z-lux at church on Sunday In 20 watt setting and was getting drowned out by the hammond B3 organ. It was a test to see If the Cure at 20 watts would cut it for me. I really dig that studio combo. But at this point its not looking to good for me but hey you never know I may change my mind. If so It would be for smaller church gigs.
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Post by simpleton on Dec 24, 2016 10:15:11 GMT -7
I tried my Z-lux at church on Sunday In 20 watt setting and was getting drowned out by the hammond B3 organ. It was a test to see If the Cure at 20 watts would cut it for me. I really dig that studio combo. But at this point its not looking to good for me but hey you never know I may change my mind. If so It would be for smaller church gigs. I think at church it's called being baptized by the Hammond...not drowned.
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Post by JasonM on Dec 24, 2016 10:58:38 GMT -7
The Cure looks like a great amp but even had both been available at the same time to me I would still have chosen the Z-Lux. I wanted the awesome trem and reverb. I really don't need/require the 40 watt setting but it is nice that it's available if needed. I can get away with a decent amount of volume at home so the 40 watts is used from time to time for some big bold cleans!
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Post by justjoshinya on Dec 24, 2016 17:56:10 GMT -7
I have mine on order, never use the 40w on the Z-Lux unless I'm at the church alone playing around, love the trem! I'll most likely part ways with the Z-Lux in favor of the 10lb lighter Cure... Plus it has a level control!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2016 9:42:36 GMT -7
I assume they're going to offer it in a head at some point. That'd be my thing, probably.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2016 11:06:53 GMT -7
I read this post by one of the Z'ers over at TGP. Got me thinking the Cure might be a hybrid of the Z Lux Jr. and a Therapy Jr.
"It's not a deluxe reverb. Not only is the circuit not the same but the components, chassis construction, and transformer is not the same. The tone stack is very close to the Maz series. What I will say is that you can get blackface deluxe clean out of it. But the Triad transformer takes it into a more tweed like sound especially when pushed. It's midrange-y and thicker than a blackface deluxe. Output transformers may seem like a mysterious variablein terms of influence on tone. On lower wattage amps like this they have more influence over the sound that even the power tube type do in some cases. The Cure also has a firmer, less compressed sound when driven. You aren't going to mud up like you would with a deluxe. I honestly will say the Z Lux on the half power setting sounds more Deluxe like to me than the Cure because of the way it compresses in half power. Think of the cure as a Z Lux jr, but with the same firmness and head room as the Z Lux just at a lower wattage and slightly lower volume."
Sounds like there may be some redundancy for those of us that own a Maz 18 and a Therapy. I'll be sitting this one out for the time being and patiently waiting for the EMS.
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Post by mickey on Dec 25, 2016 16:30:10 GMT -7
I'm hoping to get to try a Z-Lux for the first time next month. Now I find myself fantasizing that a Lux and a Cure could be all I need, and I haven't even tried them yet. This does not bode well for the New Year ahead!
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Dec 25, 2016 16:36:25 GMT -7
I'm hoping to get to try a Z-Lux for the first time next month. Now I find myself fantasizing that a Lux and a Cure could be all I need, and I haven't even tried them yet. This does not bode well for the New Year ahead! On the contrary, my friend...2017 is looking like a year full of fantastic new sounds for you!!!
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Post by mickey on Dec 26, 2016 14:05:59 GMT -7
I'm hoping to get to try a Z-Lux for the first time next month. Now I find myself fantasizing that a Lux and a Cure could be all I need, and I haven't even tried them yet. This does not bode well for the New Year ahead! On the contrary, my friend...2017 is looking like a year full of fantastic new sounds for you!!! You're right, I was just thinking of my financial and marital status:)
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Dec 26, 2016 14:47:54 GMT -7
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Post by Easyrom on Dec 27, 2016 1:39:04 GMT -7
I would have been very tempted by a real Z-Lux Jr with both the great reverb and fabulous tremolo. Just because it would have been made to be a 20W amp, as opposed to the Lux which is still a 40W amp which can be runned at half power. But in this case I will stay with my Z-Lux, even if I almost never use it on full power.
If I lived in a country where Dr Z amps were easier to try, buy and resell, I would be VERY curious about the Maz 8 upgrades though. Mine (v1) is my first Dr Z and still the one which actually perfectly fits my needs.
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Post by pcns on Dec 27, 2016 7:01:33 GMT -7
I am working on it. I want one, I have loved the tone of the Jaz and now Lux amps since their releases. The bare bones version of this amp in lower power output will be perfect for what I do.
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Post by teddysalad on Dec 27, 2016 10:36:03 GMT -7
I've got one pre ordered! It'll be my second Z and sit nicely next to my CG.
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Post by Easyrom on Dec 30, 2016 1:13:57 GMT -7
Have had hard times deciding, but I'm done: I'm not buying this very tempting little Cure. I almost pulled the trigger the other day, but stopped just before payment. ;-)
I'll stay with my Z-Lux, even if it's always tamed to 20W + Brake Lite. It sounds too good and these verb and trem are amazing. I plug straight into it most of the time or through my Astro Tone and King of Tone and it's pure heaven to me, why would I mess with that?
I do look forward watching your Cure videos though!
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Dec 30, 2016 6:52:51 GMT -7
Have had hard times deciding, but I'm done: I'm not buying this very tempting little Cure. I almost pulled the trigger the other day, but stopped just before payment. ;-) I'll stay with my Z-Lux, even if it's always tamed to 20W + Brake Lite. It sounds too good and these verb and trem are amazing. I plug straight into it most of the time or through my Astro Tone and King of Tone and it's pure heaven to me, why would I mess with that? I do look forward watching your Cure videos though! I've been thinking long and hard about this too, and for all the reasons easyrom says I think I'm going to hold off on getting a Cure. I think I want to see what the EMS is like. I'm plenty satisfied with my Z-Lux and so far I haven't heard anything compelling enough to justify a Cure.
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Post by mickey on Dec 30, 2016 8:41:09 GMT -7
What is this EMS, have I missed something?
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Post by KeithA on Dec 30, 2016 9:18:57 GMT -7
What is this EMS, have I missed something? It's an EL34-based Marshall-style amp that Doc will be rolling out in 2017.
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Post by mickey on Dec 30, 2016 10:49:58 GMT -7
What is this EMS, have I missed something? It's an EL34-based Marshall-style amp that Doc will be rolling out in 2017. Thanks, I did miss something!
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Post by simpleton on Dec 31, 2016 20:36:13 GMT -7
It's an EL34-based Marshall-style amp that Doc will be rolling out in 2017. Thanks, I did miss something! Here's the THREAD about the EMS
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Post by mickey on Jan 1, 2017 2:50:48 GMT -7
Thanks, I did miss something! Here's the THREAD about the EMS Got it, and I think I can hear it from here!
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Post by thatstatuemoved on Jan 6, 2017 16:58:17 GMT -7
The cure is an amp that I would buy, would be a great amp IMO.
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Post by Faze on Jan 6, 2017 17:14:33 GMT -7
I am also very interested in the cure. Still not sure but I am def looking into it. I really like that studio combo. Just for the practicality of it. I had a Maz 18 Jr studio combo and sold it. Afterwards I kind of regretted it. I prefer 6V6 or 6L6 tubes so The studio combo cure is tempting! 20 watts plus the level control. It sounds like a winner to me. If I didn't owe on my therapy that I bought back from my friend I would have most likely bought the cure. I just cant see this not being a great useful amp.
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