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Post by rckline on Aug 11, 2016 9:32:21 GMT -7
I've been recording for a couple decades at home, and fortunate enough to track in a few studios. I have an issue I don't know how to resolve, Whenever I record any "resonant" sound, and when it plays back on a laptop(crappy speakers), there are SERIOUS issues. The resonance seems to overload the ability of the speakers, and harsh digital !@#$ starts occurring.How can I record these sounds and keep the shifting resonance? When I've tried EQing the nasty bits away, the entire vibe shifts. Compression maybe? I've avoided recording extreme types of this example for the last few years, but last nite I found the perfect sound and all the resonance stuff came back to me. Lucky for me, my MAZ18R has ZERO resonance issues, but add certain pedals (I'm looking at you, TC Electronic Reverb)the issues comes back. It doesn't sound bad at all live, but when recorded... there's gotta be a tip for this! Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Post by walt on Aug 11, 2016 18:38:40 GMT -7
Roscoe is the man to help you here.I don't know if it will make a difference,but I am looking at tube mic preamps to improve digital recording,maybe one would help you?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 6:56:11 GMT -7
I read your post several times. I can't figure out how you are using the word "resonant"?
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Post by rckline on Aug 12, 2016 10:18:30 GMT -7
I'm referring to a "sound" or "instrument" that has that weird resonance thing inherent to it. Like trying to record a vibrating metal tube, or a reverb pedal that has rising and falling "resonance", sounds kinda like flanger or phase in that a rotating beat is present, but these sonic peaks and valleys don't record well. I do use what I consider one of the best preamps around, the Dizengoff D4. I'm NOT referring to the tuned resonance of an amplifier cab, but objects and pedals that resonate chaotically. The T2 by TC Electronic is full of tones like this. Eventide's H9 has some as well(ironwood patch). Or a large empty metal water tank, hit with a rock.
It seems I need a way to capture the sounds, but deal with the resonance peaks of the beat that overwhelm everything else for a few seconds, until the resonance rotates away. Perhaps my language isn't precise enough. I'm pretty much self-trained, but love recording, and had pretty good success at it. This the single recurring issue that I can't find any info on. Please note this occurs only when played back on a laptop speakers. Maybe squashing w/compression to the point of a pancake is the solution. Darn tiny speakers!
Thanks folks!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 7:37:32 GMT -7
As best as I can tell from how you have explained the problem it sounds monitor related.
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Post by rckline on Aug 13, 2016 9:10:09 GMT -7
It's EVERY laptop I hear. It's not just me, other music does this too. I don't use a laptop when recording, or laptop speakers as monitors, I've got a great set of Events and a stand-alone DAW. Is there a way to get around this without neutering the sound? My intuition tells me compression and/or limiting might make the sound more stable on different playback units. The leap from laptop speaker to big PA is startling!!!
I do record a lot of unusual and found sounds, but it happens with pedals as well...
How do you folks deal with these "unrecordable" sounds?
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