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Post by humphreyaudio on Aug 25, 2005 21:04:33 GMT -7
I LOVE the tone of my new (Used) Maz 18 Jr. It's a 210 NR with a loop, that originally came from FAT Sound out in NC.
Now I want some info on what pedals you guys use. I like the straight tone really well, and I run the master on '10' and the pre at 2 0:clock and use the guitars volume to clean the tone up when I need it.
I need a medium and a heavy drive pedal, and also a decent delay pedal.
I don't want digital stuff because it takes away from the natural drivey tone. I tried a DG stomp and a Quadraverb in the loop, but the loop is a series-one, so....No thanks.
Any and all comments appreciated,
MH
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Post by bmorelli on Aug 26, 2005 6:26:18 GMT -7
mh, i'm currently using a kaden effects chirper (treble booster), and a voodoo labs tremolo with my maz jr 212 nr. just fyi, my main guitars are a 52 ri tele, and a early 90s les paul standard. i use the chirper in full boost mode with the telecaster, and in mid boost mode with the paul. the tone from a treble booster is really unique and quite different from a tube screamer type pedal. i find that i can get a very "british" drive with the pedal engaged. you can check the chirper out here - www.kadeneffects.com/chirper.htmi've had my voodoo labs tremolo for a little more than 2 years and i really like it! it's a nice fender style tremolo that has been very reliable. you can read a great trem shootout/review here (the voodoo does very well) - www.muzique.com/trem.htmi hope that helps! bobby
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Post by countryshawn on Aug 26, 2005 7:39:44 GMT -7
Typically, I use in the following order from the guitar:
1) Boss Tuner 2) Boss CS-3 Compressor 3) Bad Monkey Overdrive 4) Dan-Echo Delay 5) Chorus
The pedals that are on 95% of the time are the CS-3 and the Dan-Echo. Even though the Dan-Echo is digital, it has the high-roll off feature, which makes it sound almost identical to an analog delay if you are looking for single/double slap delay. Some folks claim them to be noisy, but I've not had that experience quite honestly. They just sound like a sweet analog delay to me.
The Bad Monkey is a sweet overdrive (and cheap!) that I use for solo boosts or the odd occasion that calls for a more cruncy rythm sound.
My .02
Shawn
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Post by paddywhacker on Aug 26, 2005 17:45:11 GMT -7
...i have a 2-10 NR also....i'm currently using a
Boss TU-2 EH Holy Grail verb TC Jauerning Luxury Crive (Clean Boost) Fulltone OCD Keeley Compressor Boss BF-2 Flanger MXR Mico Chorus
thinking of swapping the OCD for a Zendrive..... and the Flanger for a delay.... my two faves are the Keeley Compressor and the Luxury Drive....
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Post by jakeddy on Aug 28, 2005 14:03:53 GMT -7
my z board
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Post by rclemmer on Aug 28, 2005 17:23:23 GMT -7
Don't overlook the Z.Vex Super Hard On. I just discovered it during to a recent visit to Fat Sound. It is AWESOME with the Maz 18 Jr NR, particuarly before an overdrive pedal such as the Klon. We also put it in front of a Boss Blues Driver - even that sounded decent. The effect can be quite subtle, but turn it off and you wonder where your tone went.
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Post by guitargeorge on Sept 1, 2005 9:19:57 GMT -7
I have lots of pedals but the killer combo I've found is Addrock Boostmaster pushing the MAZ 18. It produces a harmonically rich breakup very much like the natural breakup of the tubes but to a greater degree. Turn the volume down on the guitar and you have a decent clean tone with boosted highs, very touch sensitive. The amp I run the gain @ 12:00, the boostmaster all controls set to 3:00 with the switch on treble boost mode and look out. Aint no tubescreamers here.
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Post by namelikemusic on Sept 8, 2005 13:33:13 GMT -7
Although I have an extensive pedalboard, in the last 2 years most of the gigs I've done involved plugging into just a Barber Direct Drive into the Maz Jr. I also have a Carmen Ghia; seems to me the Z's are very pedal-friendly. I've owned some other EL84 amps and even with retubing and proper biasing they did not accept pedals the way the Z's do.
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Post by brion on Sept 9, 2005 6:07:21 GMT -7
I've had my Maz Jr for 3 years now and still enjoy my FDII with it. I've tried Keeley TS9 Plus mod and BD2, Mi Audio blue boy(sounds good, but mine started to make a bunch of noise and the company doesn't email me back) Lovepedal COT and an array of more common OD's and Distortions and Fuzzes. They all sounded decent, but for the versitility and great sounds I like the FDII with the Jr. I do not like it with my Z28 however, and I'm still searching for the right OD for that amp.
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Post by guitarman1 on Sept 12, 2005 13:38:48 GMT -7
I'm using a new Barber LTD Silver Edition for light to medium overdrive and a Barber Launch Pad for a clean boost and to push the front end of my Maz Sr. into breakup.
Both of these are the most transparent pedals I've ever used and at $125.00 each, are a great value. Dave Barber even uses full size pots in these, so they're easy to replace if they ever develop static, that pots often do.
Dave is a pleasure to deal with and he offers a trial period.
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Post by charlienc on Sept 13, 2005 14:03:55 GMT -7
Boss TU-2 Tuner Vox Wah Tubescreamer Bluesdriver DS-1 Rocktron Short Timer Delay Holy Grail 'Verb
I used to play some boutique stuff. Fulltone specifically, but found that nothing sounds as good as my old pedals aquired during my teenage years. Sometimes the simplest effects are best, at least for me.
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Post by unecktele on Sept 15, 2005 6:37:27 GMT -7
Just added a Keeley "phat mod" BD-2-an absolutely awesome pedal
52 reissue Tele TU-2 tuner Keeley BD-2 Tubescreamer ("brown" mod) Boss Chorus (Japan) Maz Jr.
My tone is awesome-I couldn't be happier. Now I must learn how to play!
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Post by donnie on Sept 16, 2005 7:32:09 GMT -7
PRS or Fender > Tim > Sparkledrive > Soulbender > Choralflange > Boss DM-2 Analog Delay > Maz Jr.
I'm doing classic rock and so far I've got a lot of tone territory covered!
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Post by msquared on Oct 10, 2005 12:15:42 GMT -7
Pedals in order:
(Powered by Dunlop Brick) Boss TU-2 Boss SD-1 Keeley Modified Keeley Compressor
That's it, I switch between 3 guitars:
Gibson Les Paul 1960 re-issue Fender Eric Johnson Strat Fender Telecaster '52 re-issue
When I want to run out the door and not bring my pedal board, I bring my Z.vex Super Hardon.
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Post by greenmachine on Oct 10, 2005 14:10:18 GMT -7
modded TS-9 Danelectro Wasabe Rock a bye -delay/tape type echo Tuna Melt -temolo Dunlop 535Q crybaby Radial SwitchBone ABY and boost
Most of the time I do not use effects these are just the ones I have and do occasionally use.
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Post by hdahs143 on Oct 10, 2005 20:04:31 GMT -7
I have lots of pedals but the killer combo I've found is Addrock Boostmaster pushing the MAZ 18. It produces a harmonically rich breakup very much like the natural breakup of the tubes but to a greater degree. Turn the volume down on the guitar and you have a decent clean tone with boosted highs, very touch sensitive. The amp I run the gain @ 12:00, the boostmaster all controls set to 3:00 with the switch on treble boost mode and look out. Aint no tubescreamers here. I agree about the Boostmaster. I use the full range side with different settings, but it is an essential part of my sound!
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Post by unecktele on Oct 13, 2005 15:04:33 GMT -7
Just added a Keeley "phat mod" BD-2-an absolutely awesome pedal 52 reissue Tele TU-2 tuner Keeley BD-2 Tubescreamer ("brown" mod) Boss Chorus (Japan) Maz Jr. My tone is awesome-I couldn't be happier. Now I must learn how to play! New pedal added at front of chain for greater versatility in gain: a Keeley modified DS-1. Marshall stack in a box.
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Post by joekondziella on Oct 14, 2005 2:03:08 GMT -7
That's where my keeley DS-1 lives as well. Dig it
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Post by tiglath on Oct 14, 2005 18:14:49 GMT -7
I am looking for a pedal that will really dirty the Maz-18. Please don't say "Get a Marshall" I already have one. It might not be possible to turn the Maz-18 into a high gain monster. My Boss Distortion pedal does not agree with it well, it distorts little when it's not squealing wildly. The Tubescreame works better but the T9 is not really a heavy distortion pedal.
Is there anything out there that has proven to distort the Maz-18 good a proper?
Thanks
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Post by humphreyaudio on Oct 14, 2005 22:44:29 GMT -7
Thanks for all the input, and please keep it coming.
I perform mods on pedals myself, and wanted to hear from experienced users before I went to work on the small arsenal of pedals I would be using with my Maz. Also some EL84 amps just don't take pedals well, so I wanted to get a leg up on this by asking.
I have learned that there are several directions we can go using pedals with the Maz 18. One way is to crank the pre gain up to a slightly driven level, then connect the drive pedals and set them for what I need after that. I experienced too much noise running like this however, so I went with plan B, and that was to turn the pre gain down to clean and let the drive pedals do the dirty work, pun intended.
I noticed that with my pre gain control down low enough to clean it up, (9:00) Alot of the sonic goody of the amp went out the window. It sounded and felt restricted, but now I had a clue.
what worked best for me was to put a lower gained tube in V1, A NOS Holland Amperex 12AU7 I had, then two JJ 12AX7S tubes in the other two sockets, (Mine is a no reverb model, so just three pre amp tubes and two power tubes.) To step the input gain down. Now I could set the pre gain level control at 12:00, and at that point the sonic quality came back to the Maz in a big way. It was much quieter also. No hiss, no hum on '10'. The vibe and sustain were back, and the amp had a very pleasing tone with the guitar straight into it, and that has to be Rule #1 with me.
I plugged in and tweaked my specially modded Boss CS-3 compressor. I had just built that one and It's very transparent and quiet , and I can get a nice flat response without a squeezed sound. The tone was incredible right away. I set it's volume so that it won't add or take away from the amps volume when on.
The other pedals I ended up using were a modded DOD FX55C Supra distortion. Very touch sensitive with the guitars volume control, fat, and also I did a quiet mod so I can use it with compressor on, and no freak out noises at all. I wouldn't even consider using The original version before the mod, but it RULES now.
After that, a modified Danelectro Daddy-O, another pedal I wouldn't touch without my modifications. the stock version is horrible. Built like a TANK. This one is built to be my low drive pedal.
Then a DOD Grunge, which is the worst sounding pedal on the planet before I do the work on it. It's a quite usable heavy drive with a frozen wah 80's metal tone, and a quiet mod.
Now I have all the blues, country, and rock tones I need, and the Max 18 performs better than I could have imagined. I use a Z air brake with this rig also, and I can't wait to plug into it and play.
BTW, Anyone interested in pedal mods, e mail me. 4humphrey@msn.com
Thanks,
MH
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Post by humphreyaudio on Oct 15, 2005 22:57:27 GMT -7
I am looking for a pedal that will really dirty the Maz-18. Please don't say "Get a Marshall" I already have one. It might not be possible to turn the Maz-18 into a high gain monster. My Boss Distortion pedal does not agree with it well, it distorts little when it's not squealing wildly. The Tubescreame works better but the T9 is not really a heavy distortion pedal. Is there anything out there that has proven to distort the Maz-18 good a proper? Email me at 4humphrey@msn.com I have a few suggestions that WILL help. MH
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Post by cheycaster on Oct 15, 2005 23:38:19 GMT -7
I use a Tone Bone Classic for the Humbucker guitars and it works well. ZZ Top, Gov't Mule, Travers, and just about any old classic tones is there just about better too!. I have an NOS tube of some kind (I forget) in it and after trying about 15 different ones I ended up with it as it cleans up nicely with the guitars volume knob. For The Trower/ Hendrix/ Bramhall II stuff I use a custom shop Fulldrive II with the boost always on and use the guitars volume for it as well and tune a whole step down ;D. I also use a Fulldrive 69 pedal that works killer but you have to have the amp really smoking for that and that usually is too loud for most people but man does it do manic depression and Doyle bramhall II etc just wonderfully! Depending on how I'm feeling I also use a Real Tube pedal with an NOS RCA 12au7 in it but again getting the amp up there is the trick. I'd like to try a keeley Fuzz head, anybody out there have one and if so whats yer .02 worth?
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Post by hollowman on Oct 29, 2005 22:45:50 GMT -7
Tele Customs or Yamaha AES 1500B
Keeley Phat BD Keeley Compressor H20 Maz JR NR hd/2x10 cab
Recently scored this amp and cab. Still getting to know her but really blown away so far. Does anyone use the effects loop for anything?
I've gotten some great tips from this forum! killer site.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2005 9:23:49 GMT -7
I've used a lot of different 'boost/overdrive' pedals with the MAZ 18 jr and the Ghia and also the Fender Pro Jr. The one that I found would really get the amp up on its hind legs and produce a volume boost/even bigger sound even when the amp was already pretty saturated is the Frantone Brooklyn Overdrive.
My only problem is that I only own one of 'em and when my gear is out w the Steve Earle tour I don't have one to use for local gigs in NYC.
best, E/Roscoe
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Post by pipohead on Nov 8, 2005 11:06:17 GMT -7
I've had my Maz 18 jr with reverb for three years now and i love it. I play it resonably clean with a fulltone fulldrive 2 in front of it for overdrive. This is the core of my tone....Amazing... Then i added the line6 echopark and crybaby 535 Q ( witch is not as good as my budies fulltone clyde but i still love it ) and a boss floor tuner. Very basic set up but with such a good amp ther's no need for ecessive pedals...unless your in to that stuff. The tone i get is awsome! I love my amp, by far th best amp i've ever owned or heard.
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Post by miguel777 on Nov 10, 2005 20:13:51 GMT -7
I run a Strat ---> TS-9 ---> Budda Phatman ---> AM BiComp --->MazJr 2x10 NR.
I use the TS-9 for the bluesy stuff (add the Comp from the BiComp to get it out front if needed -- kinda ZZ Top-ish sounding at that point). I use the Phatty for the crunch-kerrang stuff, w/the Juicer from the BiComp on top it sounds very Brit/ACDC-like, but can also do a very convincing "Fire" ala Hendrix. Ive got a Roland GP-8 in the amp's FX loop for delay and chorus, and a Roland RV2000 reverb unit in the FX loop of the GP-8 - I typically only use those when I'm playing clean -- with the delay and reverb going I get a processed sound similar to something you'd hear on a Johnny A CD (at least to my ears, that's what I'm shooting for), but obviously more Stratty.
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Post by skyttemyr on Nov 11, 2005 1:19:36 GMT -7
Although I have an extensive pedalboard, in the last 2 years most of the gigs I've done involved plugging into just a Barber Direct Drive into the Maz Jr. I use a Barber direct drive SS for lead with my maz jr nr head. for the price, nothing can beat this pedal in my opinion! for rythm i use BJF litle green wonder. That's a little gem from my neighbour-country sweden. If you're looking for a tubescreamer, check out this pedal!
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Post by billyguitar on Nov 11, 2005 8:00:53 GMT -7
To: Tiglath If a pedal is squealing wildly when on the problem is either the pedal or a ground problem with a cord or guitar. That's if you don't mean unpotted pickup howl.
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Post by a42 on Nov 18, 2005 9:52:36 GMT -7
1) Barber Tone Press (comp) 2) Barber Launch Pad (clean boost) 3) Barber LTD (od) 4) Visual Sound H2O (delay/chorus)
Gets me anywhere from shimmery clean to single-coil sizzle all the way to very, very raunchy. Dig it.
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Post by gatorblue on Nov 23, 2005 15:26:22 GMT -7
Try out the Gristle King. I play a 68 Paul custom and an 84 G&L Broadcaster (high end Tele) and both do great through it. I also run my Maz near 10 and use the master volume for volume and guitar. The Gristle King is really two overdrive effects in one box and you can use each separately or together. Check it out on the internet. Several other Z people use it.
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