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Post by telejas on Oct 31, 2006 14:55:05 GMT -7
I really want a Stang Ray, but I want one with reverb...... does anyone know if that's a possibility?? I really don't want to have to get a reverb pedal/unit.
I'm thinking of selling my favorite amp ever to get a Stang Ray, if I can figure out how to cover all the tones I'd be loosing by selling my Mesa Boogie Road King.
I may change my mind, but I really want a Dr. z and I love the AC30 tone and I think this is the amp for me.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Oct 31, 2006 19:44:18 GMT -7
I really want a Stang Ray, but I want one with reverb...... does anyone know if that's a possibility?? I really don't want to have to get a reverb pedal/unit. I'm thinking of selling my favorite amp ever to get a Stang Ray, if I can figure out how to cover all the tones I'd be loosing by selling my Mesa Boogie Road King. I may change my mind, but I really want a Dr. z and I love the AC30 tone and I think this is the amp for me. Well it has a very serviceable effects loop, which is how I add reverb if I want it.
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Post by telejas on Oct 31, 2006 19:55:38 GMT -7
I really want a Stang Ray, but I want one with reverb...... does anyone know if that's a possibility?? I really don't want to have to get a reverb pedal/unit. I'm thinking of selling my favorite amp ever to get a Stang Ray, if I can figure out how to cover all the tones I'd be loosing by selling my Mesa Boogie Road King. I may change my mind, but I really want a Dr. z and I love the AC30 tone and I think this is the amp for me. Well it has a very serviceable effects loop, which is how I add reverb if I want it. Thats kind of what I was wanting to avoid, I don't want to have to have an external reverb unit, and I really like to play with a slight bit of reverb at all times. Thanks for the reply though
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Oct 31, 2006 20:19:19 GMT -7
If you have a way to do it, go take your Tele and play through one. That bit of reverb won't seem nearly as important to you as getting that thing sitting behind you on stage.
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Post by telejas on Nov 1, 2006 15:10:10 GMT -7
The only Dr. Z dealer we had around here stopped carrying them.. You'd think being only 35 miles from Branson, Mo that the "country" amps would be more in demand.... but around here it's rock and metal amps that sell. Do you have any clips? I've heard the ones on the Dr. z site (played by Brad Paisley) but I want to hear a "real" person play one. One quick question.... Do you have to crank the amp pretty loud to get it to break up like in the Brad Paisley clips or does it already sound like that? I recorded some clips with my AC30cc1 today trying to get the "Brad Paisley" vibe.... It just made me want the Stang Ray even more!! You can check them out at www.guitartest.moonfruit.com if you want to hear what I'm aiming for.
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Post by billyguitar on Nov 1, 2006 15:35:45 GMT -7
I don't think Z is ever going to put reverb in one of these, just ain't his bag. You'll be pretty loud by the time you get the amount of drive you want. These are loud 30 watt amps. Turn the master volume up all the way and any boost switches off on your AC30cc1 and you'll get a good idea what the Stang Ray does. If you can play that loud at the places you play you'll be fine, if not use an Air Brake and knock it down a click or two.
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Post by telejas on Nov 1, 2006 15:52:39 GMT -7
I was afraid that was the case....... Maybe someday there'll be one with a master volume or a built in air-brake. I don't like a lot of distrotion on my tone, but I do like a little bit (as you can hear from my AC30 clips). Someday I'd really like to try one of these out.
Thanks for the reply.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Nov 1, 2006 17:24:32 GMT -7
The only Dr. Z dealer we had around here stopped carrying them.. You'd think being only 35 miles from Branson, Mo that the "country" amps would be more in demand.... but around here it's rock and metal amps that sell. Do you have any clips? I've heard the ones on the Dr. z site (played by Brad Paisley) but I want to hear a "real" person play one. One quick question.... Do you have to crank the amp pretty loud to get it to break up like in the Brad Paisley clips or does it already sound like that? I recorded some clips with my AC30cc1 today trying to get the "Brad Paisley" vibe.... It just made me want the Stang Ray even more!! You can check them out at www.guitartest.moonfruit.com if you want to hear what I'm aiming for. Nice clip! I don't even remotely play that style, so my clips are probably irrelevant, but I do have a few that I made when I first got the head. I didn't have the Alnico Blues yet, so I was trying it out on several different setups here. But as you can hear, you can get distortion no problem. The volume of the amp is going to be very much dependent on the sensitivity of your speakers. With the Alnico Blues, this thing is WAY louder than it was through the less efficient speakers I did most of these clips with. But check them out anyway: www.gear.strayca.com/stingray.htm. Also, there is a sounds forum for clips here - I think there are a few country players who've posted clips of the 'ray, but I can't think of one off the top of my head. Check it out.
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Post by Shannon on Nov 2, 2006 14:02:31 GMT -7
I've got a Stingray combo. I usually keep a pedel on all the time to get a little dirt. This amp is loud, but it's nice at any volume. The pedel I use (Landgraff OD) doesn't really change the tone, just gives that grit I need. My taste are more blues than country, but I really thing you would love this amp. It's pure glass. On another note, I've never had an amp without reverb, but I haven't missed it on this one. I bought a Holy Grail and most of the time I don't even pull it out.
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Post by Bill on Nov 2, 2006 14:19:14 GMT -7
T Do you have any clips? I've heard the ones on the Dr. z site (played by Brad Paisley) but I want to hear a "real" person play one. You mean a mere mortal person?? I've got a few misc clips including the Stingray hereHope they help. Btw, the 'Ray is the most fulfilling amp I've ever played period...and that's 30 years worth! ;D
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Post by jharris on Nov 2, 2006 17:19:36 GMT -7
If you have a way to do it, go take your Tele and play through one. That bit of reverb won't seem nearly as important to you as getting that thing sitting behind you on stage. Agreed, whne I bought my Mazerati, I thought I would miss the verb, so I bought a holy grail, total waste, dont need the verb.
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Post by telejas on Nov 2, 2006 21:51:20 GMT -7
T Do you have any clips? I've heard the ones on the Dr. z site (played by Brad Paisley) but I want to hear a "real" person play one. You mean a mere mortal person?? I've got a few misc clips including the Stingray hereHope they help. Btw, the 'Ray is the most fulfilling amp I've ever played period...and that's 30 years worth! ;D I love the tone you got on "5 gallon"!! What was different setting on that one than on the other country ones?
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Nov 2, 2006 21:54:04 GMT -7
I use a Holy Grail pedal with my Stingray all the time... straight into the front of the amp most of the time, as I do with most of my Z's... sounds fine and I use just a touch of verb...
I played one gig and later I realized that the Holy grail was on but not turned up at all.... I had played the whole first set without Reverb at all and didn't even notice... so yes, these amps are pretty lush already, cause I'm a big reverb man and would otherwise miss the verb...
I really like just a touch, the only time I would really miss it with a DR Z is outdoors though... I could play indoors without it.... I just prefer a touch...
Jason
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Post by Bill on Nov 3, 2006 7:41:10 GMT -7
You mean a mere mortal person?? I've got a few misc clips including the Stingray hereHope they help. Btw, the 'Ray is the most fulfilling amp I've ever played period...and that's 30 years worth! ;D I love the tone you got on "5 gallon"!! What was different setting on that one than on the other country ones? Five Gallon was done using only a Boss CS-3 (Allum mod), and a Zendrive set to very very low gain. I've since moved to a Keeley comp and RC Booster or Keeley BD-2 all set to very low gain, the BD a bit higher than the RC, but haven't done any clips yet. The other guitarist in my band (rockstok) has a Stangray with Keeley comp, which he uses as a boost. Lots of good tones on each side of the stage!
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Post by stratdev on Nov 30, 2006 19:17:29 GMT -7
For reverb with my Stang Ray I use a Van Amps Sole-Mate reverb unit. I had a Holy Grail I used with my departed Flexi-50; but it sounded rank with my Stang Ray... turned out that my power supply for the Grail was defective. Got the Sole-Mate and got a new power supply for the HG. When compared head up, the HG no longer sounded rank and dismal, but is no match for the real tank in the Sole-Mate. The Sole-Mate is small and easily fits in the average gig bag. For critical reveb use I have a Kendrick tank, but 99% of the time the Sole-Mate gets the nod as the preferred gigging reverb tank.
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Nov 30, 2006 20:11:18 GMT -7
Stratdev...
does Van Amps have a web site or is there a dealer for those online... I would like to take a closer look at that unit... might be interested in one? how much do they run?
Jason
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Post by harry on Nov 30, 2006 22:36:29 GMT -7
Here is the site www.vanamps.com I love mine with my StingRay 2 x 12 combo. Probably around $300.00 USD I'm guessing. Harry
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Nov 30, 2006 23:07:58 GMT -7
Here is the site www.vanamps.com I love mine with my StingRay 2 x 12 combo. Probably around $300.00 USD I'm guessing. Harry Harry, Thanks for the reply... have some Karma for that and having a Stingray! I might have to pick one of these up, and try it out. I like my Holy grail enough but for as nice an amp as the Ray maybe she deserves something a little better... website says MSRP $259.00.... thats not too bad. nice features... true bypass and looks well built. jason
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Post by stratdev on Dec 2, 2006 9:58:06 GMT -7
Here is the site www.vanamps.com I love mine with my StingRay 2 x 12 combo. Probably around $300.00 USD I'm guessing. Harry Harry, Thanks for the reply... have some Karma for that and having a Stingray! I might have to pick one of these up, and try it out. I like my Holy grail enough but for as nice an amp as the Ray maybe she deserves something a little better... website says MSRP $259.00.... thats not too bad. nice features... true bypass and looks well built. jason I use my Soul-Mate in the loop on my Stang Ray head. If you go straight into the front input with it it sounds fine too (unlike the HG which throws hissy fits). Plus, it's a great signal buffer if ya use more than 4 or so full bypass pedals... One word of CAUTION with this unit: clearly mark it's wall wart power supply because it's 12 volts AC. That's right...AC. You will seriously damage the unit with a 12 volt DC wart. I sit mine on the floor (away from my big feet...it will "ker-blam" when kicked...like any other outboard tank with real springs) on a chunk of high density foam or one of the big sponges I use to "pack" my pedal board for transit. With a little 'verb, and/or a little slapback, a little compression (a little dab will do ya), and a Analogman King of Tone for dirt when ya need it, the Stang Ray is flat out the best little tele amp I've ever owned. This same rig is also magic with P90's
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Post by billyguitar on Dec 2, 2006 13:10:48 GMT -7
So you're not running the Sole Mate thru the loop? I was wondering if the adjustable output would make up for the loss of volume when things are put in the loop. If you don't use it that way would you try it please and tell us how it works? update: My bad. I see you said thru the loop. COOL!
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Post by Don on Dec 2, 2006 20:35:38 GMT -7
I really want a Stang Ray, but I want one with reverb...... does anyone know if that's a possibility?? I really don't want to have to get a reverb pedal/unit. I'm thinking of selling my favorite amp ever to get a Stang Ray, if I can figure out how to cover all the tones I'd be loosing by selling my Mesa Boogie Road King. I may change my mind, but I really want a Dr. z and I love the AC30 tone and I think this is the amp for me. Jason - Your clip using the AC30 sounds darn close to Brad's tone. From what I've heard, no doubt the Stang Ray will get you all the way there!
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Post by harry on Dec 5, 2006 9:49:56 GMT -7
I run the solemate in front of the amp due to the loss in the loop. Even with my FD2 in front of the Solemate I do not have any problems; the signal is a bit hotter so I have to reduce the level a tad. It sounds really fantastic to me but like they say "Try before you buy".
Harry
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Post by billyguitar on Dec 5, 2006 15:35:08 GMT -7
This is a problem with the Stang Ray, volume loss of pedals in the loop. Just about the only small flaw that I can think of. I don't have any problems with the Holy Grail in front of my amp either, so long as I use the right power supply.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Dec 5, 2006 17:45:28 GMT -7
This is a problem with the Stang Ray, volume loss of pedals in the loop. Just about the only small flaw that I can think of. I don't have any problems with the Holy Grail in front of my amp either, so long as I use the right power supply. That's interesting, because I haven't noted any problem like that at all. But of course, I'm running different stuff in my loop than you are. My H&K Rotosphere has a level control, so I suppose I'm adjusting it back to nominal. But I don't run any of my other stomp boxes in the loop - maybe that's why we're seeing differences there.
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Post by billyguitar on Dec 5, 2006 19:31:27 GMT -7
I'm sure that's what it is. Just try a normal delay pedal or something where you can't recover volume and you'll see a noticeable drop.
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Post by telejas on Dec 6, 2006 14:42:59 GMT -7
I really want a Stang Ray, but I want one with reverb...... does anyone know if that's a possibility?? I really don't want to have to get a reverb pedal/unit. I'm thinking of selling my favorite amp ever to get a Stang Ray, if I can figure out how to cover all the tones I'd be loosing by selling my Mesa Boogie Road King. I may change my mind, but I really want a Dr. z and I love the AC30 tone and I think this is the amp for me. Jason - Your clip using the AC30 sounds darn close to Brad's tone. From what I've heard, no doubt the Stang Ray will get you all the way there! Hey, thanks!! I'm really liking the AC30 more and more every time I play it, but I still want a Stangray-Stingray pretty bad..... But as fate would have it, the Stangray is out of the picture for a while.... I tried playing a gig with just my AC30 and it didn't quite handle it, even with quite an array of pedals - So I'm guessing that the Stangray wouldn't handle it either , I really need those Boogie tones...... So it looks like I'm going to be hanging on to a Mesa Boogie and getting a Stingray in addition to it, I guess that means trying to save my money and get it the old fashioned way - "buy it". I did sell the Road King and almost bought a Stangray, but the little expierement with the AC30 made me turn towards another Boogie, so I got a Roadster. It has the Dual Recto tones along with the Lonestar cleans. it's a much nicer sounding amp than the Road King, at least for cleans it is and it's the same for the harder stuff. Thanks again for the tone comparison. J
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Dec 6, 2006 15:05:48 GMT -7
Hey, thanks!! I'm really liking the AC30 more and more every time I play it, but I still want a Stangray-Stingray pretty bad..... But as fate would have it, the Stangray is out of the picture for a while.... I tried playing a gig with just my AC30 and it didn't quite handle it, even with quite an array of pedals - So I'm guessing that the Stangray wouldn't handle it either , I really need those Boogie tones...... So it looks like I'm going to be hanging on to a Mesa Boogie and getting a Stingray in addition to it, I guess that means trying to save my money and get it the old fashioned way - "buy it". I did sell the Road King and almost bought a Stangray, but the little expierement with the AC30 made me turn towards another Boogie, so I got a Roadster. It has the Dual Recto tones along with the Lonestar cleans. it's a much nicer sounding amp than the Road King, at least for cleans it is and it's the same for the harder stuff. Thanks again for the tone comparison. J You must be playing some of that sand-blaster music...
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Post by billyguitar on Dec 6, 2006 15:36:11 GMT -7
Sand-blaster! That's the way it sounds to me too. Kids these days.................
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Post by telejas on Dec 6, 2006 17:24:58 GMT -7
Sand-blaster! That's the way it sounds to me too. Kids these days................. yeah..... well, at least I have the ears to have a good "sand blast" tone, unlike lots of others out there that "scoop the mids" on their solid state amps and turn the gain up to 11. www.guitartest.moonfruit.com has my tone on the Road King page. I now have a Roadster, but the distortion is very close (it's the same beast).
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Post by billyguitar on Dec 6, 2006 19:15:21 GMT -7
just joking around! It's all good!
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