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Post by sultan59 (Tim) on Jul 12, 2006 20:12:31 GMT -7
Is there a way to mellow this amp out a little? Make it more in the Z28 warm range? Maybe change a cap or something?
I just tried it with my 212 G12H30 cab and it's still too trebly for my taste. Tried turning the cut way down, but that wasn't the way to go.
I got a Z28 the other day and immediately fell in love. It sounds amazing with the Stang 212 Blues cab. Never did really warm up to the Stang, yet.
I may sell it if there's any interest.
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Post by sultan59 (Tim) on Jul 12, 2006 20:17:57 GMT -7
Maybe I need to try some different tubes. Have any of you guys tried changing tubes, and did it mellow out any?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 12, 2006 20:41:34 GMT -7
You should buy the pair of Weber Ceramic Blue Dogs I have here - they got so warm with my Mazerati that I took them back out. Warm as in, no top edge. I'd bet they would be just right for you...
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Post by hunter6726 on Jul 12, 2006 21:14:08 GMT -7
My Boss eq pedal does the trick for me. I ordered beam blockers today. Maybe that smooth it out. Your treble comes from the dust cap. Mr Z told me that he had to find the right dustcap for his Z 10s.
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Post by billyguitar on Jul 13, 2006 6:01:45 GMT -7
Try the low input? try a different guitar? Better cable? Go up in the ask Myles section and ask him about tubes. My Stang Ray has an aggressive midrange but I like it.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Jul 13, 2006 6:05:22 GMT -7
You should buy the pair of Weber Ceramic Blue Dogs I have here - they got so warm with my Mazerati that I took them back out. Warm as in, no top edge. I'd bet they would be just right for you... did you have the 50w version?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 13, 2006 6:13:53 GMT -7
You should buy the pair of Weber Ceramic Blue Dogs I have here - they got so warm with my Mazerati that I took them back out. Warm as in, no top edge. I'd bet they would be just right for you... did you have the 50w version? Yeah, 50 watt, ceramic, slight doping.
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Post by Hohn on Jul 13, 2006 7:44:51 GMT -7
Even a cheapo EQ like a Danelectro Fish'n'chips is a useful addition for this type of case.
My F&C has been a great little pedal, and for <$40, you can't beat the price!
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Post by guitarman1 on Jul 13, 2006 12:06:46 GMT -7
Is there a way to mellow this amp out a little? Make it more in the Z28 warm range? Maybe change a cap or something? I just tried it with my 212 G12H30 cab and it's still too trebly for my taste. Tried turning the cut way down, but that wasn't the way to go. I got a Z28 the other day and immediately fell in love. It sounds amazing with the Stang 212 Blues cab. Never did really warm up to the Stang, yet. I may sell it if there's any interest. To me, the low input on my Stingray has less treble than the high input. I keep the tone control around 12 o'clock and rarely take the cut control past 8 o'clock with single coils. With humbuckers, tone is at 11 O'clock and cut between 7 and 9 o'clock. Something that I've never done was use my guitars tone controls. I don't really know why exactly...I guess I just never liked the sound. The other day, I unknowingly turned the tone on my Strat down slightly when taking it out of the case. I plugged it into the Ray and I thought, man this sounds great and less crispy than normal. Then I realized the guitar's tone was down slightly around 7 or 8. I think I'll be using the tone control more now after this revelation. Maybe it's the better caps that I put in, or just the Lollar pups. I'm not sure, but me likey now!
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Post by billyguitar on Jul 13, 2006 12:13:25 GMT -7
the guitar's tone control is real important, especially with a Ghia.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Jul 13, 2006 12:15:08 GMT -7
thanks benttop. guitarman1 -- yeah, the right pickups and electornic components make the volume and tone controls on your axe FAR more useful!
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Post by sultan59 (Tim) on Jul 13, 2006 18:56:03 GMT -7
I tried all that low input, tone control, different guitar stuff already. ;D Tried eq, too.
I just want the amp to not take my head off without all that tweaking.
Tubes must be the answer. If not, eBay is.
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Post by billyguitar on Jul 13, 2006 19:31:49 GMT -7
I don't think tubes are going to do enough to please you. Good luck!
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Post by sultan59 (Tim) on Jul 13, 2006 21:35:41 GMT -7
Well, I'm having better luck with the cut all the way off.
this new Z28 has got me spoiled already.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2006 21:40:21 GMT -7
What kind of sounds or tones are you going for?
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Post by hdahs143 on Jul 14, 2006 4:34:34 GMT -7
I was having the same sort of response from mine. I swapped in a NOS rectifier tube that was in my MAZ 38 head, and the tone went from trebly to beefy in a hurry. I know they say the rectifier is not in the tone signal path, but when you change the voltage and current the amp has, it has to affect the tone!
Harold
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Post by billyguitar on Jul 14, 2006 7:11:14 GMT -7
A Z28 has a much more mid scoop kind of sound and the Stang Ray is a mid forward sound. Quite different and I can understand how it may not be someone else's sound. Having played Fender Tweed amps so long I'm used to that and like it.
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Post by sultan59 (Tim) on Jul 14, 2006 7:22:55 GMT -7
I emailed the Doc and he said a different 12AX7 would help some. So, I'll give that a try in the next few days. Also, thanks for the tip on the rectifier tube, Harold, I'll try that, too.
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