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Post by ss "Shane" on Oct 25, 2015 21:19:01 GMT -7
So far I am REALLY diggin my new Therapy. You guys were pretty much dead on with your descriptions before I made my purchase and y'all are extremely patient and forgiving with my novis posts.
I know this is probably a stupid question and thread, but I heard somewhere that the bass knob on a Z amp is maxed out at 12 noon (straight up) and anywhere past that is basically bass being compressed. I grew up with the bass on all my fender amps turned almost turned up all the way. Also I notice that no Therapy user has his bass up past noon. Not even demos on the net.
I've been monkeying around with the bass level and can't notice any real differance in actual bass LEVEL past noon. Also I notice more sustain on the higher notes - high strings bends with my bass knob being below 3:00, like noon. I mean...out of habit and what I know I really want to set my bass to around 3 or even 5 o'clock like on the Fenders I had. Is there something I don't know or should I treat the Z eq knobs like any other amp?
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Post by southmusic70 on Oct 26, 2015 5:12:42 GMT -7
It's no help to you, but wait until you play a Z28 or any of its brethren.
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Post by doctorice on Oct 26, 2015 5:51:16 GMT -7
Southmusic70 refers to the Z28, which is a Z amp that has active tone controls. Other Zs have "passive" tone controls. So what's the difference? The active ones boost frequencies, compared to the signal, when turned up past noon on the dial. Passives just lower the amount of frequency passing through. At least that's my understanding of it.
On the Therapy, turn all the tone knobs off. Set V and Master wherever. Play your guitar. You'll hear nothing! Part of the Therapy's design. Gradually turn up the bass. Listen. Turn it back down gradually. Listen. Repeat with Mid and Treble. You'll get an appreciation for the ranges of frequencies each control is affecting.
I like setting Mid, Volume and Master first. Sort of the main ingredients of a meal. Then season with Bass and Treble. (I literally start with them off.) Of course, there's additional tweaking since the controls interact. Works for me, but as always YMMV.
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Post by southmusic70 on Oct 26, 2015 6:00:35 GMT -7
Shane, this is about as good a tutorial on the Therapy as you can find.
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Post by fishman on Oct 28, 2015 21:04:17 GMT -7
you can pull off the 28 trick of max bass, no mids, max treble...there is a sweet spot between the master and the vol where this works, not quite as well as on the 28 but respectable and useable. Learning curve with this amp. Took me a year to really know how to play my MAZ38NR.
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Post by fishman on Oct 28, 2015 21:07:13 GMT -7
as far as the knobs go, just turn em', pay no attention to where they actually are or you percieve them to be. There are no "numbers" so don;t let your mind add them in. Matter of fact, I would offer two types of knobs, ones with the line, and one just cream..no markings at all...don;t need no stinking markings....
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Post by ME on Oct 29, 2015 4:59:33 GMT -7
Twiddle the knobs until it sounds good. There you go... done. ME
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Post by Baconator on Oct 29, 2015 6:59:26 GMT -7
you can pull off the 28 trick of max bass, no mids, max treble...there is a sweet spot between the master and the vol where this works, not quite as well as on the 28 but respectable and useable. Learning curve with this amp. Took me a year to really know how to play my MAZ38NR. Thanks for this post - it's always nice to hear I'm not the only slow learner here. I'm just starting to 'get' my Maz 18 after several months' worth of jams and a few gigs. It was only the last gig where I truly took the standard advice of setting the tone controls purely by ear with no preconceptions about where they should be. The same sound guy that said my tone was too bright in the prior show said my tone was perfect with this approach. I've never played a Therapy, but doctorice's advice sounds pretty brilliant to me. It took me years to really understand the standard fender controls and almost as long to get the basics of my Boogie - which is what made me appreciate the Ghia and, later, Route 66.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Nov 1, 2015 0:35:38 GMT -7
There are two posts above which, at first glance, seem at odds with each other, yet they sum up the world of z perfectly: doctorice (Mike) gives the best and most concise summary you will ever see....... Michael speaks the absolute truth! Close your eyes, turns any and all knobs until you hear YOUR tone, and you're done! THEN look at where they're set......it might surprise you........
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