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Post by fishman on Apr 6, 2006 13:19:17 GMT -7
StingRay just arrived via the Brown Santa.....serial #022038...I would guess I have # 38.
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Apr 6, 2006 14:18:09 GMT -7
Fishman
I would ask you how you like it but your probably busy playing it.... ;D
combo? or head.... cab?
Jason
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Post by fishman on Apr 6, 2006 17:08:14 GMT -7
Well, I am still feeling my way around with it..2-12 combo w/blues.....the backwards tone control had me a little puzzled for bit!...as Carson used to say " I did not know that"....I really love my MAZ38, and the Ray is a different breed of cat....but right out of the shute its sounds PDG...prettydamngood!...I willgo thru all the obligitory PI tube swaps to see what difference can be had,. may switch the speakers to 16ohm imp. to use the entire transformer, trying different pedals, delays etc to see what works and what does not...so far I like a old style Dan Echo,. and an original Marshall Blues breaker pedal...I tried my barber direct drive, and it can sound good, but it is a little heavy on the gain..I may use it as a clean boost and see how that works out...or fiddle around some and see what i can come up with....this is a very simple lay out that does some very complex things....it is very interactive and will take some getting used to ....and its heavy!....that in itself is not a bad thing....bad for my back, good for the sound!....I will post more as the speakers break-in and I get used to how the amp reacts with different effects, settings and general use....but at this point I am inpressed...it definatly has that "chime" thing going on, and i can get some good stuff on the notes with my les paul...stat and tele are gonna need pedals for sure for any OD to speak of at a volume that is liveable, the cleans are killer.....it is a very impressive looking amp..I have been trying to figure out the look, it is some where between 40's-50's steamlined, and Art Deco...thats what I see any way, but I am old and the vision is the 2nd thing to go....
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Post by billyguitar on Apr 6, 2006 18:20:28 GMT -7
First thing to go is the legs, right?!?!
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Apr 6, 2006 18:26:07 GMT -7
Fishman, Karma for getting a stingray... and I have head #6 ;D the Cab I'm using (and LOVING it with) is a 16 ohm open back Z 2x12 cab... don't feel too bad, cause I've had mine for about a month now and I'm still figuring it out... finding new things about it and trying others... But I've just about settled on how I'm using it and liking it just like the Maz 38... so I'm happy... WAIT TILL YOU GUY'S PLAY THIS THING LIVE ( especially outside)!! holy crap!! I played outside with it for the 1st gig and have ANOTHER outside gig saturday so I get to CRANK IT!! WOW! umm.....WOW! and then the MAZ 38 is cranked... SWEET! i'm a happy camper... ;D ;D Jason I know we keep gushing about this amp but.... WOW! also on a side note... when playing with some certain other amps I won't name... I noticed ( except for the really good ones like the MAZ 38) the STINGRAY almost made them sound like the OTHER amps were practice amps compared to the STINGRAY... Like the STINGRAY was the "PROFESSIONAL" amplifier... I just noticed that and caught myself thinkin... " wow, the tone of the Stingray is so big and bold... the other amp sounds like a baby amp compared to the Stingray..."
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Post by Curt on Apr 6, 2006 20:29:46 GMT -7
Well, I am still feeling my way around with it..2-12 combo w/blues.....the backwards tone control had me a little puzzled for bit!.... ;D LOL..... too funny...Ibought my Ghia off ebay and that "Backwards" tone control had me all F'ed up !!! I wuZ not Gettin' it !! Plus it had a bunch of Boogie tubes in it and was REALL dark sounding to boot !!!! Sorry Fish, just brought back a funny memory Wonder how many others have been down that Z path ? LOL Enjoy yer 'Ray !
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Post by fishman on Apr 6, 2006 20:34:23 GMT -7
tele62, have you changed your PI tube for different sounds? also, are you running your speakers at 4 or 16 ohms....what are the advantages/disadvantages of either impedence?
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Post by Curt on Apr 6, 2006 20:41:29 GMT -7
Fish I have not touched the 'ray, hell, I ain't even looked at the tubes to see what EF-86 is in there, should be a Dario I think?!?!? and I have played it very little. I have only played through single 8ohm 12" speakers, a Vintage 30 open back, a V-30 nearly closed back and a reissue Jensen P-12-Q open back, the open back V-30 is my favorite of these, it's been my favorite with every Z amp I have had. I've been way too busy...arggghhhh Curt
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Post by dannopelli on Apr 13, 2006 20:33:13 GMT -7
Mine is # 35
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Post by 4him on Apr 14, 2006 20:54:19 GMT -7
#48 is in the house
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Post by leatherss on Apr 17, 2006 6:57:28 GMT -7
received #44 RED HEAD and 2x12 cab last friday...
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Post by cbstrat on May 31, 2006 9:02:57 GMT -7
Before the memory becomes to vague. How many Stingrays were produced with inputs on the right and how many on the left?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2006 9:51:49 GMT -7
I am not sure if it was 50 amps in total or 50 heads and 50 combos. The combos have the inputs on the left and the heads have the inputs on the right.
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Post by cbstrat on May 31, 2006 10:20:04 GMT -7
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Post by hdahs143 on May 31, 2006 10:32:28 GMT -7
No! It means the picture is a fabrication
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Post by billyguitar on May 31, 2006 11:54:09 GMT -7
yea. See the thread 'Ray on Ebay'.
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Post by smitty on May 31, 2006 17:33:34 GMT -7
Well, I am still feeling my way around with it..2-12 combo w/blues.....the backwards tone control had me a little puzzled for bit! Don't think of it as backwards... think of it as "more mids" to the left and "less mids" to the right... ala Ghia... As for the count, 50 Stingrays, #51 starts the Stang Rays... #51 is at my house. Smitty
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Post by Jray on May 31, 2006 23:18:03 GMT -7
Stingray combo #47 (Red/Black)
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Post by str8arrow on Jun 1, 2006 5:24:05 GMT -7
The one and only #17 Stingray 112 Combo
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jun 1, 2006 6:54:01 GMT -7
Number 25 head here...
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Post by guitarman1 on Jun 1, 2006 7:20:07 GMT -7
Stingray # 40 here (red/blonde head). I just swapped out the stock Dario mesh plate ef86 for a NOS Mullard solid plate from KCA. I was convinced that the magical "M word" Mullard would add some extra goodies to this already great amp, but I was slightly disappointed. Although not bad, the Mullard was a bit flat/lifeless with less of the 3D vibe of the Dario. The Dario also has a bit more top end sheen (in a good way). I swapped these tubes in and out a number of times, trying to talk myself into the Mullard, but I just like the Dario better. I haven't done any PI swaps yet.
Anybody else done any tube swapping?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2006 11:01:07 GMT -7
That is too bad guitarman1. You know I felt the same as you at first, but then I tried it again a few days later and seemed to like the Mullard. They are different, I don't know about it being flat though, maybe try leaving it in the amp and let in warm up with the amp for 15 minutes then play it and swap it with the Dario. I also put in a Mullard 5AR4 which might be giving me a different end result. Don't get me wrong I love the Dario, and would be hard pressed to pick between the two. I think the Dario is actually in between the GEC and the Mullard in a lot of ways. I am curious about trying some other tubes in the PI position. I think Sama is using a balanced 5751, I love this tube in my Deluxe. It would probably sound great in the Stingray.
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Post by Bill on Jun 1, 2006 11:10:28 GMT -7
Stingray # 40 here (red/blonde head). I just swapped out the stock Dario mesh plate ef86 for a NOS Mullard solid plate from KCA. I was convinced that the magical "M word" Mullard would add some extra goodies to this already great amp, but I was slightly disappointed. Although not bad, the Mullard was a bit flat/lifeless with less of the 3D vibe of the Dario. The Dario also has a bit more top end sheen (in a good way). I swapped these tubes in and out a number of times, trying to talk myself into the Mullard, but I just like the Dario better. I haven't done any PI swaps yet. Anybody else done any tube swapping? Speaking of Mullard EF 86's, I bought one for my 'ray and didn't like it as much as the stock Dario. A couple months went by, and I just recently put the Mullard back in...thought I would gig with it this weekend and give it a good go, see if I felt different about it. After 5 minutes there was no volume, put the Dario back in and everything's cool again. Guess I got stuck with a tube that doesn't work.
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Post by guitarman1 on Jun 1, 2006 11:37:02 GMT -7
Stingray # 40 here (red/blonde head). I just swapped out the stock Dario mesh plate ef86 for a NOS Mullard solid plate from KCA. I was convinced that the magical "M word" Mullard would add some extra goodies to this already great amp, but I was slightly disappointed. Although not bad, the Mullard was a bit flat/lifeless with less of the 3D vibe of the Dario. The Dario also has a bit more top end sheen (in a good way). I swapped these tubes in and out a number of times, trying to talk myself into the Mullard, but I just like the Dario better. I haven't done any PI swaps yet. Anybody else done any tube swapping? Speaking of Mullard EF 86's, I bought one for my 'ray and didn't like it as much as the stock Dario. A couple months went by, and I just recently put the Mullard back in...thought I would gig with it this weekend and give it a good go, see if I felt different about it. After 5 minutes there was no volume, put the Dario back in and everything's cool again. Guess I got stuck with a tube that doesn't work. Ouch Bill! That's a drag buddy and sorry to hear that. I don't know what you paid for yours, but mine was $60.00 + shipping. That has to hurt!
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Post by guitarman1 on Jun 1, 2006 11:43:19 GMT -7
That is too bad guitarman1. You know I felt the same as you at first, but then I tried it again a few days later and seemed to like the Mullard. They are different, I don't know about it being flat though, maybe try leaving it in the amp and let in warm up with the amp for 15 minutes then play it and swap it with the Dario. I also put in a Mullard 5AR4 which might be giving me a different end result. Don't get me wrong I love the Dario, and would be hard pressed to pick between the two. I think the Dario is actually in between the GEC and the Mullard in a lot of ways. I am curious about trying some other tubes in the PI position. I think Sama is using a balanced 5751, I love this tube in my Deluxe. It would probably sound great in the Stingray. [/quote Thanks for the tips Aruntang. I did leave the Mullard in for about 30 minutes, but didn't notice any change. I'm using a NOS Valvo 5AR4. What type of plates are in your Mullard. I just noticed that KCA shows a photo with the mesh type, but mine has solid plates.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2006 13:39:17 GMT -7
My Mullard EF86 has the mesh type. I am not sure what that means.
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Post by guitarman1 on Jun 1, 2006 14:01:29 GMT -7
My Mullard EF86 has the mesh type. I am not sure what that means. From what I've read & heard (sound clips) Aruntang, you have very good ears and I trust your opinions. The difference in plates between our two Mullards may very well be the "tonal discrepancies" we are hearing. I do wish that KCA mentioned in the e-catalog that the plates could be different than those shown in the photo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2006 14:11:26 GMT -7
Weird, he usually does say that. If you got the cash man, you should try the GEC. I really liked that one too. Definitely a more beefy or strong sound. Might be nice to have a good EF86 like the GEC just in case. They are a really strong tube. I have heard that even the Darios can go south sometimes. I definitely love the Dario and I can see why the Doc loves them too. They have the most balance between that wonderful 3-D sparkle and that stronger more defined sound. That is why I think the Dario is in between the Mullard and the GEC. I found my Mullard has a ton of sparkle but can be a little 'soft' while the GEC has a very muscular sound but the least amount of sparkle. The Dario is definitely a good compromise between the two. One thing I should mention which I think is a little weird. I found the Mullard EF86 became less 'soft' when I put in the Mullard 5AR4. It became more like the Dario but with more depth. Does this qualify me as a 'cork sniffer'.
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Post by hdahs143 on Jun 1, 2006 14:26:56 GMT -7
Does this qualify me as a 'cork sniffer'. I think we have a winner! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2006 14:57:30 GMT -7
Guilty as charged. ;D
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