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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 17:13:19 GMT -7
I don't get it? It's extremely versatile- Why is everyone raving and selling at the same time. I quess in the Future when I want a Z I just need to wait for things like this. I just got mine. I don't have much time on it but it seems really easy to find most tones in it. Definitely Speaker responsive: I even tried a blue and G12 in it. While I didn't care for that setup. I can see that it's just a matter of playing around to find the right Speaker for the Guitars you have. IMO this AMP is made for Tele Country tones: But it will do Humbucker Rock as well. Although I prefer the Remedy for that: Good lucK guys. Hopefully Steve won't sell his
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Post by nmz on Jan 21, 2015 18:10:56 GMT -7
I won't sell mine either but I can see why someone would prefer something else.
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Post by bloozeman on Jan 21, 2015 18:17:39 GMT -7
I like my therapy but I still prefer my maz 18 Jr more. I'm anxiously awaiting the release of the New jaz 20/40. That may be just what I'm looking for for another Z amp. My therapy kind of sits at the moment.
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Post by jlowder23 on Jan 21, 2015 18:33:17 GMT -7
Just difference in taste and tones. I loved the therapy however, I didn't love it as much as my zwreck combo and M12. To me, the therapy is a monster that loves to be ran with the volume and master up at decent levels, which in most cases, was to high of a volume for the venues I play. Nothing but praise for the therapy but, my M12 and wreck fill my needs and are the exact tones that I love.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jan 21, 2015 19:10:57 GMT -7
Not selling mine
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 21, 2015 19:20:33 GMT -7
Had the Wreck. Keeping the Therapy.
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Post by pcns on Jan 21, 2015 19:27:01 GMT -7
Mine is not going anywhere either.
Love it!
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Jan 21, 2015 20:03:43 GMT -7
I'm likely guilty of inspiring this thread, so I hope to provide a qualified answer here...
In the last few years, we've seen some really killer (and loud!) amps come out, like the Z-Wreck and the Antidote. A lot of people jumped on those but I hung back thinking (quite rightfully, I think) that those amps were "too much" for me. But the Therapy, with its PPI-MV--coupled with all the praise it was getting--seemed like a real winner for me, so I finally jumped.
Now don't get me wrong, the Therapy is great, and versatile--it's sort of a jack-of-all-trades, even. It'll do twang and it'll rock (or even "rawk") and it'll do everything quite well. But here's how I am with amps: after living with them for not long, I will usually have found each amp's "sweet spot" in which the amp will pretty much assume its place and remain there in its sonic territory. My MAZ sits in almost-broken-up-jangle-land. My Monza sits in sweet-drive-heaven. My Z-28? Fat-blues-ville. With the Therapy, I just kept on dialing it all around... never finding a bad spot honestly, but just never settling into, "ah yes, this is where I like this amp to be."
So I guess if being a "jack of all trades" can be a bad thing at all, that's what it's guilty of to me. I'm an (over)analyzer.. I need to figure something out or it frustrates me. That I haven't figured out where the Therapy is gonna sit, sonically, among my stable is what frustrated me and told me to move on... and maybe pick another one up at another time to try again. Hope that answers the question of the day without disparaging the amp... 'cause it is quite spectacularly versatile.
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Post by nicholas on Jan 21, 2015 20:34:37 GMT -7
You don't have to explain yourself Mark. If there was just one amp that made every guitar player happy, well, that would be really boring because there would only be one guitar amp.
I actually pulled mine from the BST. I'm going to keep it. I'm hearing some real nice stuff in it now that my three week flu episode is over. Note to self "self, never evaluate an amp when you have the flu". GLWS!
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Post by bloozeman on Jan 21, 2015 20:48:12 GMT -7
I will usually have found each amp's "sweet spot" in which the amp will pretty much assume its place and remain there in its sonic territory. My MAZ sits in almost-broken-up-jangle-land. My Monza sits in sweet-drive-heaven. My Z-28? Fat-blues-ville. With the Therapy, I just kept on dialing it all around... never finding a bad spot honestly, but just never settling into, "ah yes, this is where I like this amp to be." This is how I feel about the therapy as well. Great tones all around but not one where I can keep it as my signature tone and go to settings for that amp.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 21, 2015 21:22:15 GMT -7
Interesting. Found my sweet spot for both my single-coil guitars in not very much time. Loving it.
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Post by brayks on Jan 21, 2015 22:31:06 GMT -7
Loving the "missing link" in my rig and it's not going anywhere, anytime real soon...
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Post by gplayer1965 on Jan 22, 2015 5:20:28 GMT -7
I don't like to say "NEVER" but I don't have any plans for the Therapy but to stay here.However, I can understand Mark's logic and it is right on. It can happen with any amp model, any brand.
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Post by bloozeman on Jan 22, 2015 7:35:01 GMT -7
Interesting. Found my sweet spot for both my single-coil guitars in not very much time. Loving it. Would you share your single coil settings with us Steve?
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Post by DRZ on Jan 22, 2015 8:01:21 GMT -7
OK, let me pipe in here. First it is a numbers thing. we have shipped 120 Therapy amps in a short 6 month period, Thanks guys. That equals 20 per month, and with appox. 20 shipping days a month that is one a day, pretty good for a small manufacture like myself. Because of this saturation there will be some that just don't fit perfectly with a player in his currant situation, the only way to know is to get one and see, if it doesn't work flip it and move on.
I must say that I am VERY pleased with the design of the Therapy. It is as rugged and reliable as a Blackface Bassman head. It is simple in design and upkeep ( i.e. tube replacement and self biasing ). Flexible in tone and usable with great MV. It's use of HIGH quality components at a very reasonable price point. And a nice departure from EL 84 based designs, do you guys have any idea how many EL 84's I have purchased in my 28 years of building? Love EL 84's , but a change is so refreshing to my old ears.
Of course it's not for everyone, no amp on the market is universal for all players at all times. But I do LOVE the Therapy and it will go down as one my best designs, mark my words. Brad Paisley, Mark Lee, Steve Miller, Walter Becker, and of course Frankie Starr, can't be all wrong.
DR.Z
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Post by Baconator on Jan 22, 2015 8:48:57 GMT -7
A 5-10% turnover rate on amps these days is pretty darn low from what I've seen. I just know that it's killing me seeing these amps come up for sale with the Canadian dollar tanking - the price of a Therapy has gone up over $300 in the last few months! I think the pricing is fantastic in the U.S. but exchange rates are what they are. Luckily I have 2 Z's that I like already.
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Post by Eddie on Jan 22, 2015 8:57:14 GMT -7
A lot of guitar players, myself included, are notoriously fickle!
There are sooo many great pieces of guitar gear out there, and it's just plain fun to try stuff out, so why not sell a few things to buy a new thing, then sell that to try something else, etc. I've done this for almost 30 years and I have no intention of stopping. With the quality of the stuff being made today, I go from one very fine wine to another very fine wine.
I think you'll always see some percentage of "quick flips" in guitar gear when a new product comes out.
Now, having said all of that, I did buy my MAZ new in 06 and I still have it. :-)
Eddie
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 9:47:26 GMT -7
I didn't anticipate such an explosion of replies: I myself have tried most of Doc's Amps : Many I still have - I see myself keeping the therapy: Anyone who has DR Z 2x10 cab needs to try it with this Amp. Thanks for the replies -Oh by the way Mark what sparked my post was 3 in a row in the B&S. I'm just mad at myself for not waiting a couple more weeks- I'd have saved a few bills:)
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Post by Ridgeback on Jan 22, 2015 11:06:05 GMT -7
I was a first release buyer of the EZG-50 but that's the only time I have wanted an amp so badly that I didn't wait for the "it just wasn't the amp for me" phenomenon you are now seeing with the Therapy. It happens with all new models to one extent or another and is a natural GAS induced process. I'm waiting for the honeymoon period to be over on the updated JAZ (or whatever it's going to be called). This is the model I'm looking forward to as much as I did the EZG.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 22, 2015 12:33:45 GMT -7
I wasn't even shopping for a new amp, but when I heard the clips, saw the design, and thought about some of my old amps, I realized this could be a great deal for me. It sure isn't like my Remedy, but that's what I like about it - the Remedy stands alone in its field, but the Therapy dominates a different field entirely. Dr. Z is right on - not everyone will like every amp. Those of us who do like the Therapy are very pleased with it indeed.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Jan 22, 2015 12:41:02 GMT -7
Anybody else feel like we're sitting in a circle reciting, "Hello, my name is (insert name here), and I'm recovering from G.A.S."?
This has turned out to be an excellent thread, Rickenbacker53. I'm glad you asked, because I was starting to wonder the same thing. (Obviously I knew there were already 2 for sale before I put mine up, and I felt a little bad being #3.) It's actually nice to be reminded that we're all different, our ears are different, and our preferences are different--even though we all like Z-amps--and that's OK.
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Post by nmz on Jan 22, 2015 13:08:05 GMT -7
"It is as rugged and reliable as a Blackface Bassman head.[/p] It is simple in design and upkeep ( i.e. tube replacement and self biasing ). Flexible in tone and usable with great MV. It's use of HIGH quality components at a very reasonable price point. And a nice departure from EL 84 based designs, do you guys have any idea how many EL 84's I have purchased in my 28 years of building? Love EL 84's , but a change is so refreshing to my old ears."
+1000
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Post by greenblues58 on Jan 22, 2015 13:38:44 GMT -7
The good Dr will never be able to keep all of the people happy all of the time with every new design. However we should be thankful that new designs are plentiful and frequent and hope that it continues. Also as per the awaited new "Jazz" he is also prepared to revisit previous designs and reissue if demand is there for the product. Considering these are hand built quality amps ,not mass produced,I think that is a fantastic position for the business to be in if it remains a profitable proposition at the current price points for the Doc though I am sure the vast majority would pay more. Having run my own businesses,and managed other people's,I know how routine it can become if your interest isn't aroused by new developments and markets to keep you motivated and the business moving forward. On a final note ,posted elsewhere earlier by Dr Z, the fact that 10,000 odd Maz owners are out there signifies it's very very early days for the Therapy indeed. My interest is wetted to try one but only one UK dealer presents a problem logistically though not an impossibility.
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Post by nicholas on Jan 22, 2015 16:24:05 GMT -7
Anybody else feel like we're sitting in a circle reciting, "Hello, my name is (insert name here), and I'm recovering from G.A.S."? Ha. I always though it was a bit like an AA meeting with an open bar around here . Only one amp for all my days has survived all my gear purges and gas attacks. The JAZ. Had it for around 4 years and its incredible. I'm fairly certain that is the longest I've ever kept an amp for . The Therapy is growing on me. I found a Cannabis Rex sounds great, nice chewy thick tweed goodness with a LP. I will keep up with the speaker experiment. I'm glad I didn't jump ship too quick.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 16:54:41 GMT -7
I was an early Therapy buyer and seller, and Doc hit it right on the head: even though I really liked it, it wasn't the amp I needed at the time. Got an M12 head instead, mostly for lower volume home use--and so far it's exactly right for what I'm doing these days, which is mostly jamming at home with backing tracks and the occasional house party or small club gig. The M12 fit what seemed like a a gap in my amp lineup, whereas with the Therapy there was a lot of overlap with what I already had. Plus, lately I've been really into using pedals for gain/sustain, and the M12 sucks 'em up like a champ, where the Therapy seems like an amp you want to run straight in, or maybe with a boost for leads at most. I can certainly imagine revisiting the Therapy at some point--although I doubt anything will ever take the place of my beloved EZG 50 for "big amp" tones.
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Post by iluvpunz on Jan 22, 2015 17:52:40 GMT -7
Once I got the Therapy and started using it for gigging I haven't looked back. Still love my Remedy but it hasn't seen a gig since. The Therapy just has that tone. I know it's not for everyone but it sure works for me.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Jan 22, 2015 19:57:58 GMT -7
... I found a Cannabis Rex sounds great... Aww, man.. I'd forgotten about that. Yeah, I've liked the Therapy best with my Tone Tubby 40/40 ceramic (similar to the C. Rex). Nice & thick, very cool indeed.
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Post by jammergreg on Jan 22, 2015 22:59:58 GMT -7
...and Sometime we bite off more than we can chew. Money-wise $$$$. All Zs are fantastic amps.
I live on disability and I have done that many a time.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Jan 24, 2015 3:41:19 GMT -7
Late to this one, but I don't see everyone selling this amp...... what I see is the same thing happens every time the Doc releases a new design: people rush to buy, which is great; a few realise it's not of them; and they sell on. Remedy, Z Wreck, Antidote....... same thing, but as the Doc says, the quantity of Therapies has far outstripped the rest in a 6 month period, so there appear to be more coming up Used for sale. If I had the money, I'd buy a second one just for the heck of it! Really. I have never played a better sounding amp in my life, period!
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Post by pcns on Jan 24, 2015 7:28:01 GMT -7
To what fleabiscuit said about pedals. I use some pedals to get reverb and delay effects but since I got my Therapy I almost never turn on any dirt pedals. The amp OD is soooo good I rarely need a pedal. Being a church player I need to go from soaring lead tones to thick and fat rhythm to sparkling cleans and all in between. This amp really does it.
It's very responsive to guitar and pups I plug into. Different speakers show their voice very well with this amp and best of all it is very sensitive to pick attack and guitar volume.
It's a thing of beauty.
Considering the Doc has produced 100 plus of these in a very short time I would say this amp is a raving success!
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