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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 10, 2007 15:07:25 GMT -7
Well this is a fun amp! A long time ago I came across this backing track and I'm not sure how it was produced, but it's cool. Love playing with Stevie's band. Here's the setup: PRS Singlecut with Fralin PAFs > SRZ-65 > THD Hot Plate (-8 db) > THD 4x12 Settings: Volume: 10 o'clock Master: Noon Treble: 10 o'clock Middle: Dimed Bass: Dimed Presence: 10 o'clock So you can see I didn't have very much preamp gain dialed in, but nevertheless, the amp sounds pretty gainy. You have to get that master up over about 10 o'clock, where it seems the magic begins. That's why the Hot Plate is in the circuit - I ran the master at noon, and without the Hot Plate that is bone-crushing loud. Yeah baby! Anyway, this is another typical wanking excercise for me. I really need to get back out and play with some real musicians - they all rank on me and make me slow down to where the cool stuff is, but when I'm just doing this to a backing track, I can't seem to slow down to save my soul. This might be a little pitchy - I actually ran a few of the bass notes through my spectrum analyzer and it came back and said it was in F but a few places it sounds like maybe it's in F but a few cents off or something. Hey, it's the blues - we like a little dissonance here or there to keep the suspense going! Here's Texas Flood: Texas Flood.mp3
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Post by DRZ on Feb 10, 2007 15:36:23 GMT -7
Nice Steve as always. Thanks for sharing. Now the other 34 SRZ owners do some clips and put them up, the SRZ is an easy amp to record.
DR.Z
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 10, 2007 15:49:53 GMT -7
Nice Steve as always. Thanks for sharing. Now the other 34 SRZ owners do some clips and put them up, the SRZ is an easy amp to record. DR.Z Thanks Mike. Yeah, it's a fun amp to play too.
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Post by drew on Feb 11, 2007 16:27:31 GMT -7
I was hoping you'd do this Steve. As always nice playing and great tone! Nice, nice, nice tone. It sounded like the bridge p'up of the PRS but I'm not familiar with PRS tones. It'll be good to hear a clip with one of your single coil guitars! ;D
Keep on rock'in!
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 11, 2007 16:30:38 GMT -7
I was hoping you'd do this Steve. As always nice playing and great tone! Nice, nice, nice tone. It sounded like the bridge p'up of the PRS but I'm not familiar with PRS tones. It'll be good to hear a clip with one of your single coil guitars! ;D Keep on rock'in! Thanks. Yeah, the bridge pup - I should have recorded that, as I'll forget by next week. This PRS is a singlecut - very similar dimensionally to a Les Paul, and the pups are Fralin PAF's so that's very similar to what you might find in your Les Paul as well. I haven't liked this guitar in any of my other amps, but I like it a LOT in this amp. I may start using this guitar now, as I can think of a number of places where this tone is just going to knock me out.
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Post by dock66 on Feb 11, 2007 19:09:09 GMT -7
PRS Signle with Fralin PUs and SRZ65 really sounds great . Nice clip! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by JD on Feb 13, 2007 7:22:15 GMT -7
Great sound, playing, and tone. What mics, pre, and recording unit did you use?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 13, 2007 8:12:01 GMT -7
Great sound, playing, and tone. What mics, pre, and recording unit did you use? Thanks! I have two Rode NT-1's here, so I set one within about a foot of the cab, and the other across the room. I'm using a Yamaha 01V96 board feeding an Echo Audio Layla hooked in my computer. I used Vegas Audio to do the recording work, and Sound Forge to clean up and convert to .mp3.
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Post by ke4unr on Feb 13, 2007 13:49:41 GMT -7
Really dig all of the SRZ clips you've done so far, Steve! Great tone with just guitar straight into the amp. Really nice! Ray K.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 13, 2007 15:10:31 GMT -7
Really dig all of the SRZ clips you've done so far, Steve! Great tone with just guitar straight into the amp. Really nice! Ray K. Thanks Ray! I still have some testing to do here, but so far everything I've tried seems to have worked in spades. That's a sure sign it's a keeper! ;D
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Post by ke4unr on Feb 14, 2007 10:17:38 GMT -7
Thanks Ray! I still have some testing to do here, but so far everything I've tried seems to have worked in spades. That's a sure sign it's a keeper! ;D Testing? You building another rocket there mister scientist? Just play the thing - it sounds mighty fine! I think it was you that mentioned something about using the SRZ and doing Allman's, ZZ, etc. Yeah! Count me in!
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 14, 2007 10:56:58 GMT -7
Thanks Ray! I still have some testing to do here, but so far everything I've tried seems to have worked in spades. That's a sure sign it's a keeper! ;D Testing? You building another rocket there mister scientist? Just play the thing - it sounds mighty fine! I think it was you that mentioned something about using the SRZ and doing Allman's, ZZ, etc. Yeah! Count me in! Oh yeah, I'll be playing it all right. But you have to know what to expect. I've always got guys up eyeballing my gear because I take the time to figure out what works ahead of time. THAT's the testing I'm talking about. Of course, the minute you set up on stage, everything changes anyway, but at least I have a baseline for every guitar I take to the gig. For example, I tried the PRS slide machine with the SRZ-65 volume dimed. Sounded great - no, it sounded AMAZING. But when I recorded it like that, I couldn't distinguish the notes. A little too much gain. So I dialed it back, and found out I didn't give up much in the gain department, but recovered a lot of articulation. That's pretty important info once I go live with this rig. The amp is going to react to each guitar differently based on its output level and its tone envelope. So I test...
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Post by myles on Feb 14, 2007 11:23:28 GMT -7
Testing? You building another rocket there mister scientist? Just play the thing - it sounds mighty fine! I think it was you that mentioned something about using the SRZ and doing Allman's, ZZ, etc. Yeah! Count me in! Oh yeah, I'll be playing it all right. But you have to know what to expect. I've always got guys up eyeballing my gear because I take the time to figure out what works ahead of time. THAT's the testing I'm talking about. Of course, the minute you set up on stage, everything changes anyway, but at least I have a baseline for every guitar I take to the gig. For example, I tried the PRS slide machine with the SRZ-65 volume dimed. Sounded great - no, it sounded AMAZING. But when I recorded it like that, I couldn't distinguish the notes. A little too much gain. So I dialed it back, and found out I didn't give up much in the gain department, but recovered a lot of articulation. That's pretty important info once I go live with this rig. The amp is going to react to each guitar differently based on its output level and its tone envelope. So I test... The issue on recording was not the amp, it was your mic.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 14, 2007 13:44:36 GMT -7
The issue on recording was not the amp, it was your mic. So many variables, so little time... Yeah, you could be right. I definitely need a good guitar mic for the studio, but other priorities prevail. Like that $50 I spent this morning for flowers.... AAAUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHH
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Post by ke4unr on Feb 14, 2007 15:27:41 GMT -7
Oh yeah, I'll be playing it all right. But you have to know what to expect. I've always got guys up eyeballing my gear because I take the time to figure out what works ahead of time. THAT's the testing I'm talking about. Of course, the minute you set up on stage, everything changes anyway, but at least I have a baseline for every guitar I take to the gig. For example, I tried the PRS slide machine with the SRZ-65 volume dimed. Sounded great - no, it sounded AMAZING. But when I recorded it like that, I couldn't distinguish the notes. A little too much gain. So I dialed it back, and found out I didn't give up much in the gain department, but recovered a lot of articulation. That's pretty important info once I go live with this rig. The amp is going to react to each guitar differently based on its output level and its tone envelope. So I test... Hehe...well, I honestly wasn't trying to get your goat, Steve...but I guess I did. ;D Hey, I just spent the majority of the weekend, plus staying up past midnight two nights in a row getting all my gear just so-so, to play at a closed jam last night with some old band mates and others! See, I have the same affliction...hence the smart aleck remark. So, sharpen your #2 pencils and test away, my friend!
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 14, 2007 15:46:01 GMT -7
Hehe...well, I honestly wasn't trying to get your goat, Steve...but I guess I did. ;D [/quote] Naw, just filling you in is all. Hey, I just spent the majority of the weekend, plus staying up past midnight two nights in a row getting all my gear just so-so, to play at a closed jam last night with some old band mates and others! See, I have the same affliction...hence the smart aleck remark. So, sharpen your #2 pencils and test away, my friend! #2 Pencils, white overcoat, calculator in pocket, stethoscope with input taped to front of beam blocker and ear pieces squeezed as far into the cranium as humanly possible.
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Post by skydog958 on Feb 14, 2007 22:41:48 GMT -7
I actually tried out the EQ settings you used with my V and it sounded much much better than my random tweaking! I need to find a good master volume setting for gigging since I could never run my master at full with the preamp gain I need.
Also, your tone and playing are killer!
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 14, 2007 23:05:54 GMT -7
I actually tried out the EQ settings you used with my V and it sounded much much better than my random tweaking! I need to find a good master volume setting for gigging since I could never run my master at full with the preamp gain I need. Also, your tone and playing are killer! Thanks dog! Do you have an attenuator? I think it's going to be a permanent part of this amp's setup. The amp just seems to come alive with the master up past 10 or 11 o'clock. Without the attenuator, that is mighty loud!
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Post by ke4unr on Feb 15, 2007 10:51:36 GMT -7
#2 Pencils, white overcoat, calculator in pocket, stethoscope with input taped to front of beam blocker and ear pieces squeezed as far into the cranium as humanly possible. Also, get a pair of welding goggles like Bob Pletka has. You know you just might fry your brain from looking at the glowing tubes too long.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 15, 2007 12:30:34 GMT -7
#2 Pencils, white overcoat, calculator in pocket, stethoscope with input taped to front of beam blocker and ear pieces squeezed as far into the cranium as humanly possible. Also, get a pair of welding goggles like Bob Pletka has. You know you just might fry your brain from looking at the glowing tubes too long. Well that would explain a few things around here... From the time I could crawl, I had my head stuck in the back of my dad's old Gibson GA-25 amp, smelling those hot tubes and looking at the heaters. No one said I'd go blind and stupid... well, I didn't go blind anyway.
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Post by skydog958 on Feb 15, 2007 23:27:56 GMT -7
I have an Airbrake but I typically used it for my 45. Well since I wont be needing too much crunch from the 45 I could set it cleaner (i.e. less loud) and use the Brake on the SRZ.
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