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Post by mauiman(Bill in Texas) on Oct 29, 2014 8:32:34 GMT -7
The Cure The Tonic Painkiller Elixir - Dr. Z's Elixir has a nice ring to it! Dr Z Elixir JZ?
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Post by English John on Oct 29, 2014 15:35:04 GMT -7
Can't wait to hear it!
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Post by mickey on Oct 30, 2014 9:08:24 GMT -7
How about the "JTR"? (I always assumed that KTR stood for "Klon, The Return"....).
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Post by harry on Nov 17, 2014 13:23:34 GMT -7
I have to say that I really like Jaz Deluxe, it is simple and dignified.
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Post by Frankie Starr on Nov 18, 2014 10:18:50 GMT -7
Well....I heard the revisions, and geeeezzz....you all better start selling and/or saving (again) it's goes from classic vintage Fender Deluxe tones, to something a little bigger and fuller in the 40w setting. It has the sweetest cleans that will rival the EZG, but not quite as loud and clean, but really seems like a great gigging amp. I was blown away !!!! How does Z do it ! You guys will LOVE it...
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Post by digiTED aka 'Ted' on Nov 18, 2014 10:59:38 GMT -7
Well....I heard the revisions, and geeeezzz....you all better start selling and/or saving (again) it's goes from classic vintage Fender Deluxe tones, to something a little bigger and fuller in the 40w setting. It has the sweetest cleans that will rival the EZG, but not quite as loud and clean, but really seems like a great gigging amp. I was blown away !!!! How does Z do it ! You guys will LOVE it... dang frankie! I'm still in the honeymoon phase with my old, horribly obsolete and useless JAZ v1... So far about all I would consider changing would be to add the EQ bypass/boost from my MAZ 8 and the 250K Reverse Audio Taper pot on the tremolo Depth control (to smooth out the pulse as depth is increased). I'll throw my hat in with "JAZ Deluxe" though I really think the JAZ v1 is pretty deluxe as is!
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Post by nocasterman on Nov 18, 2014 17:16:31 GMT -7
Well....I heard the revisions, and geeeezzz....you all better start selling and/or saving (again) it's goes from classic vintage Fender Deluxe tones, to something a little bigger and fuller in the 40w setting. It has the sweetest cleans that will rival the EZG, but not quite as loud and clean, but really seems like a great gigging amp. I was blown away !!!! How does Z do it ! You guys will LOVE it... Thanks for the info Frankie............my gas is doubling now for the updated version. I absolutely love the original and V2 seems like it just adds more icing to an incredibly delicious cake. I can't wait for this to be released!!
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Post by carrjimi on Nov 18, 2014 21:02:55 GMT -7
Here is the issue..
I have a JAZ and love it. It's become my goto amp. I love the idea of the new JAZ being even more in the Fender Deluxe camp. I really love the fact that it is going to be lighter.
There is no talking me out of buying it when it comes out (I've started putting aside funds for a few weeks now). Do I keep both the old and the new JAZ? Maybe run them in Stereo.....
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Post by nocasterman on Nov 18, 2014 22:11:53 GMT -7
Here is the issue.. I have a JAZ and love it. It's become my goto amp. I love the idea of the new JAZ being even more in the Fender Deluxe camp. I really love the fact that it is going to be lighter. There is no talking me out of buying it when it comes out (I've started putting aside funds for a few weeks now). Do I keep both the old and the new JAZ? Maybe run them in Stereo..... I am with you, the JAZ has become my goto amp as well. Maybe we will be able to upgrade?
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Post by doctorice on Nov 19, 2014 7:10:37 GMT -7
^^^
A go-to amp for me also. I'd really want to do a side-by-side comparison before deciding to update, assuming Doc makes that available.
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Post by digiTED aka 'Ted' on Nov 19, 2014 10:14:19 GMT -7
^^^ A go-to amp for me also. I'd really want to do a side-by-side comparison before deciding to update, assuming Doc makes that available. I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here (mods pls delete if so), but I emailed Doc about updating to v2 spec last week; no plans at this time (same goes for EQ bypass). He did mention the pot change on Trem depth I mentioned about though.
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Post by DRZ on Nov 19, 2014 11:24:16 GMT -7
Ordered a couple Reverse Audio Tapper pots Ted. But neither are the correct values. Do you know a source for 250K and 500K RA pots?
Z
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Post by digiTED aka 'Ted' on Nov 19, 2014 12:22:28 GMT -7
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Post by DRZ on Nov 19, 2014 17:24:34 GMT -7
Thanks, I'll order a few and try them out.
Z
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Post by brayks on Nov 19, 2014 20:47:48 GMT -7
I don't know about the name thing - that's a "sticky wicket" and often a personal thing. Having brought quite a few products to market, I've learned branding and messaging is a very big deal and what it takes in terms of time, money and media to promote a new product to gain product awareness and generate profit making sales. I've also learned not to ask too many people their opinion on product names. I'm thinking if Doc thinks the JAZ moniker hurt sales enough to discontinue the product (and he should know), resurrecting that name successfully would likely take one heck of a large, clever and costly marketing campaign - if he wanted to reach beyond his current base (which I'm sure would be the intention). Heck as far as his loyalists are concerned it doesn't matter what he calls it...we're in! Not that it couldn't be done of course. I think much more excitement might be generated for this new product with a new name possibly referencing the JAZ roots. This approach would likely be more successful than announcing a new-and-improved version of a retired product. Just one fella's opinion...
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Post by oloboy on Nov 20, 2014 6:06:33 GMT -7
Unfortunately, JAZ will equal jazz and limit the market for the amp. J.A.Z. may indicate initials but will still be an uphill battle. If the name is retained, I'd drop the Art Deco look because together it screams "jazz fans (and tone) only".
In keeping with the themes: What car did your Father drive? Profession? Nickname?
It would be a shame to lose the name dedication but there has to be an option with broader market appeal.
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Nov 20, 2014 23:03:46 GMT -7
" J-Lux" 20/40 (or maybe " Z-Lux" 20/40) if you really feel the need to change it... STILL named for your dad with either Initial, and maybe add a little symbol / design (like the badge on the EZG, or the symbol on the M-12) of something that your dad liked or that would be a symbol of the amp in his honor?
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Post by harry on Nov 21, 2014 10:05:59 GMT -7
Honestly... I don't think many amp makers align the model name with the function or genre of the amp very well. More often they market the Key features such as the wattage or the tubes. Sure you have Blues Jr (Low watt blues amp?), Blues Deluxe (Big blues amp), Super Lead, JTM 45 (I get the watts but what does the JTM stand for? I think it was his name Jim Marshall with his son Terry in the middle), JVM (Jim Victoria Marshall; his daughter?) Steel String Singer (Sounds country to me), AC 30 (What does the AC stand for?), Tweed (Can you wear it?, sounds refined all dolled up in a tweed package yet it is Fenders raunchiest amp). My point is the guitar amplifier market may be more concerned about the technical features such as the wattage, tubes, etc. If the Doc wants to dedicate his line to his family and friends that inspire him to produce these sonic works of art then why not? It conveys to me that any amp design worthy of his father's name or other family member must have been created with the same values and qualities that he covets in that individual. If these things matter to the Doc more than just making a buck then count me in!
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Post by zpilot on Nov 22, 2014 13:43:55 GMT -7
I don't know about the name thing - that's a "sticky wicket" and often a personal thing. Having brought quite a few products to market, I've learned branding and messaging is a very big deal and what it takes in terms of time, money and media to promote a new product to gain product awareness and generate profit making sales. I've also learned not to ask too many people their opinion on product names. I'm thinking if Doc thinks the JAZ moniker hurt sales enough to discontinue the product (and he should know), resurrecting that name successfully would likely take one heck of a large, clever and costly marketing campaign - if he wanted to reach beyond his current base (which I'm sure would be the intention). Heck as far as his loyalists are concerned it doesn't matter what he calls it...we're in! Not that it couldn't be done of course. I think much more excitement might be generated for this new product with a new name possibly referencing the JAZ roots. This approach would likely be more successful than announcing a new-and-improved version of a retired product. Just one fella's opinion... Having spent 25 years in Manufacturing I can agree with this viewpoint.
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Post by ifailedshapes on Nov 22, 2014 18:17:19 GMT -7
Count me in as another person in favor of including the tone stack bypass. Just my humble two cents.
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Post by zpilot on Nov 23, 2014 14:00:29 GMT -7
A tone stack bypass option would work well. After trying several tone settings I have finally decided I like everything dimed the best. That approximates a bypass of those controls. Strangely, I don't really care for the bypass in my MAZ Jr. and I understand that the two control configurations are basically the same.
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Nov 25, 2014 9:15:10 GMT -7
It is relay hard to slow the tube driven osculated trem. much more without a long delay in the start up. It's all about RC networks and the larger the cap values the slower the oscillator will wobble, but like all engineering nothing is free and the slower pulse causes a longer start up. To some it's no big deal, but to others it unacceptable.
I have redesigned the circuit some, now the oscillator comes on faster and the pulses are slower, win/win. I think you will like the new sound of the Trem as well as it's almost instant start.
The key is to not use one large capacitor; instead use a couple of smaller caps that add up to the same value...kind of like using two smaller turbos instead of one large one to reduce turbo lag...
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Post by off2kamp on Dec 30, 2014 8:56:10 GMT -7
OMG OMG OMG! I haven't been over here for a long time but WOW this is GREAT news! So excited!!!!!! I will be ordering one of these so fast! I don't think I would want a tone defeat at all on this model but reverb options like the EZG would be amazing. Thanks Doc for bringing back such a versatile amp! I've always wanted one.
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Post by nicholas on Dec 30, 2014 13:24:52 GMT -7
^ lol. That pic is hilarious.
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Post by nathan38 on Dec 31, 2014 2:42:52 GMT -7
I always thought the name was a little weird and kind of leads people to think it's a Jazz amp.
JZ Pro, JZ Deluxe, JZ Super or JZ GT all sound good....or use some kind of code, Maz 1026...10=j, 26=Z.
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Post by davmpartridge on Dec 31, 2014 5:53:39 GMT -7
If you don't stay with JAZ, or JZ or some variant of those terms... How about something like "The Practitioner" or "MD" since it does so many things so well.
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Post by Ridgeback on Dec 31, 2014 12:50:01 GMT -7
Possibly the only amp that might lead me to consider selling my Z-28 at some point after the new model feeding frenzy dies down.
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Post by doctorice on Dec 31, 2014 12:58:08 GMT -7
I presume there's quite a difference between the new JAZ and the Therapy (both being 6L6 based) which I have never had the opportunity to play around with, the difference being that the Therapy has more gain on tap? Anybody have intimate knowledge? Yes, Buddy, I'd say the Therapy has more gain available. That said, it's possible, according to Z, to do the eq bypass on the JAZ. That would narrow the gap. Pairing a JAZ and Therapy would be an awfully nice set up.
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Post by JoeMo' on Dec 31, 2014 13:57:57 GMT -7
Any word on a release date? Will it just come in a combo or will it be a head too?
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Post by nicholas on Dec 31, 2014 16:47:08 GMT -7
I'm sure it will be available in either head/combo like it originally was. Just a guess, but I can't see why not...
I wonder what cosmetics it will have... Oval or not? I like the oval but might be in the minority. The EZG had an oval and then that was dropped in favor of a plain baffle.
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