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Post by suits on Jun 4, 2014 11:16:28 GMT -7
Hey, thinking of getting a Route 66 as my Maz sounds just way to similar to my other guitarist.
Unfortunately I found that the demo videos for the Route 66 left me greatly wanting more.
How is the tube overdrive clarity when playing full chords? Would I be able to play an F and hear each string?
Also how is the touch response of the 66?
Thanks!
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Post by jb on Jun 4, 2014 15:28:20 GMT -7
I know what you mean about the demo videos. I feel that the tube overdrive clarity is a particular strength of the Route 66. If you hit an F, you will hear every string, thick sounding, clear and with what seems to be endless sustain if you want it. The touch response is there to a very high degree. You will hear all the bad notes and mistakes very clearly, and will ultimately make you a better, or at least, more careful guitar player. It is also very a very loud 32 watts. With the family of Z amps, it is really helpful to define what kind of music, venues and tone you are looking for. There is a Z for however that is defined. Good luck!
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Post by gplayer1965 on Jun 5, 2014 5:56:53 GMT -7
F Chord will sound F awesome
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Post by suits on Jun 5, 2014 6:42:59 GMT -7
I know what you mean about the demo videos. I feel that the tube overdrive clarity is a particular strength of the Route 66. If you hit an F, you will hear every string, thick sounding, clear and with what seems to be endless sustain if you want it. The touch response is there to a very high degree. You will hear all the bad notes and mistakes very clearly, and will ultimately make you a better, or at least, more careful guitar player. It is also very a very loud 32 watts. With the family of Z amps, it is really helpful to define what kind of music, venues and tone you are looking for. There is a Z for however that is defined. Good luck! That's exactly what I wanted to hear! I am a music pastor. The style varies from bluegrass/ Irish to rock. I don't have any doubt about the sound, and I'm not worried about it being loud as I have an ISO box and attenuator. There just weren't any demos of someone playing a full 6 string chord or doing anything but wailing on the strings. Thanks!
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Post by southmusic70 on Jun 5, 2014 7:51:01 GMT -7
I think that some of the amp demos on the company's site are better than others. That's when this forum becomes an invaluable tool for finding out some real, maybe non-routine, specifics and for doing comparison/contrast between models.
And everybody here is cool with their opinions; the general attitude seems to be that there are no absolute rights or wrongs, that everybody hears differently, and that if it works for you, then it must be good.
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Post by suits on Jun 5, 2014 8:12:58 GMT -7
I think that some of the amp demos on the company's site are better than others. That's when this forum becomes an invaluable tool for finding out some real, maybe non-routine, specifics and for doing comparison/contrast between models. And everybody here is cool with there opinions; the general attitude seems to be that there are no absolute rights or wrongs, that everybody hears differently, and that if it works for you, then it must be good. Right, definitely, unfortunately Dr Z has no official demo's of the 66. The only ones on their website/youtube channel are by Gearmanndude. And he fails to play a full 6-string chord in either of his single coil demo's. And I'm not a fan of humbuckers. Tone is subjective, but it's really not that subjective on whether or not you can play 6 strings chords and be able to tell your playing a guitar. Not a mud machine.
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Post by southmusic70 on Jun 5, 2014 8:46:34 GMT -7
Agreed!
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Post by KeithA on Jun 5, 2014 11:17:43 GMT -7
I think that some of the amp demos on the company's site are better than others. That's when this forum becomes an invaluable tool for finding out some real, maybe non-routine, specifics and for doing comparison/contrast between models. And everybody here is cool with there opinions; the general attitude seems to be that there are no absolute rights or wrongs, that everybody hears differently, and that if it works for you, then it must be good. Right, definitely, unfortunately Dr Z has no official demo's of the 66. The only ones on their website/youtube channel are by Gearmanndude. And he fails to play a full 6-string chord in either of his single coil demo's. And I'm not a fan of humbuckers. Tone is subjective, but it's really not that subjective on whether or not you can play 6 strings chords and be able to tell your playing a guitar. Not a mud machine. This video used to be on the Z site, but now it's 'private'. It takes a few seconds to load and there's a little ad at the beginning...but I ordered my Route 66 after watching this video.. v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDk5Mzc0MTky.html
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Post by southmusic70 on Jun 5, 2014 11:59:18 GMT -7
And that's why they call you a Znatic and I'm only a Big Kahuna.
You know more "stuff."
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Post by bluzman on Jun 5, 2014 12:14:28 GMT -7
Hey, thinking of getting a Route 66 as my Maz sounds just way to similar to my other guitarist. Unfortunately I found that the demo videos for the Route 66 left me greatly wanting more. How is the tube overdrive clarity when playing full chords? Would I be able to play an F and hear each string? Also how is the touch response of the 66? Thanks! If you have a MAZ Jr, a Z-28 may be the way to go... I just re-tubed mine and am digging the natural drive, and very touch sensitive and more important to me, very touch reactive.
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Post by southmusic70 on Jun 5, 2014 12:35:40 GMT -7
I'm about to put my 66 and maybe my Rati v2 on BST. I agree that the 28 is definitely worth your consideration. More and more, it's my go-to amp (for louder stuff I go with a KT and pedals). To me, the 28 behaves more like the 66 than it does the KT (giving up the goods earlier, for example), but make no mistake, the 28 has plenty of muscle on the bandstand, particularly with an extension cabinet.
My 28 is a 1X10 combo, which is plenty most of the time, and adding a 12 just makes it better.
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Post by jb on Jun 5, 2014 15:32:07 GMT -7
I think Dave Baker should do some Route 66 demos!
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Post by suits on Jun 5, 2014 21:30:41 GMT -7
Right, definitely, unfortunately Dr Z has no official demo's of the 66. The only ones on their website/youtube channel are by Gearmanndude. And he fails to play a full 6-string chord in either of his single coil demo's. And I'm not a fan of humbuckers. Tone is subjective, but it's really not that subjective on whether or not you can play 6 strings chords and be able to tell your playing a guitar. Not a mud machine. This video used to be on the Z site, but now it's 'private'. It takes a few seconds to load and there's a little ad at the beginning...but I ordered my Route 66 after watching this video.. v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDk5Mzc0MTky.htmlThat's a way better demo thanks!
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Post by suits on Jun 5, 2014 23:07:32 GMT -7
Hey, thinking of getting a Route 66 as my Maz sounds just way to similar to my other guitarist. Unfortunately I found that the demo videos for the Route 66 left me greatly wanting more. How is the tube overdrive clarity when playing full chords? Would I be able to play an F and hear each string? Also how is the touch response of the 66? Thanks! If you have a MAZ Jr, a Z-28 may be the way to go... I just re-tubed mine and am digging the natural drive, and very touch sensitive and more important to me, very touch reactive. Thanks I'll definitely check out the Z-28. Originally I was looking at the 66 as I had a potential trade offer. But it looks like I may sell the Maz instead. I'm also considering the mazerari gt. Because it's awesome lol.
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Post by southmusic70 on Jun 6, 2014 5:55:59 GMT -7
IMO, Dave Baker should do ALL of the Z amp demos.
Mazerati GT has pretty much gain from the get-go, kind of like a Monza. My Rati v2 seems to be more linear as you go up the knobs.
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Post by suits on Jun 6, 2014 8:15:58 GMT -7
IMO, Dave Baker should do ALL of the Z amp demos. Mazerati GT has pretty much gain from the get-go, kind of like a Monza. My Rati v2 seems to be more linear as you go up the knobs. Agreed. Yeah, it is, but it's awesome. I'll have to check out the Mazerati. If it can also do gain stuff well maybe I'll buy yours
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Post by jb on Jun 6, 2014 13:32:23 GMT -7
I can hear the distinctions between the various Z Amps when Dave Baker does the demo. With the others its sort of a crap shoot to me, but my ears are getting older!
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Post by gplayer1965 on Jun 7, 2014 9:17:35 GMT -7
Hey, thinking of getting a Route 66 as my Maz sounds just way to similar to my other guitarist. Unfortunately I found that the demo videos for the Route 66 left me greatly wanting more. How is the tube overdrive clarity when playing full chords? Would I be able to play an F and hear each string? Also how is the touch response of the 66? Thanks! If you have a MAZ Jr, a Z-28 may be the way to go... I just re-tubed mine and am digging the natural drive, and very touch sensitive and more important to me, very touch reactive. Z 28 is a gloriuos amp. Very articulate with a little bit of Marshall and a bit of Fender (more Fender than Marshall) to my untrained ear
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Post by eliot1025 on Jun 11, 2014 8:12:38 GMT -7
Hey, thinking of getting a Route 66 as my Maz sounds just way to similar to my other guitarist. Unfortunately I found that the demo videos for the Route 66 left me greatly wanting more. How is the tube overdrive clarity when playing full chords? Would I be able to play an F and hear each string? Also how is the touch response of the 66? Thanks! If you have a MAZ Jr, a Z-28 may be the way to go... I just re-tubed mine and am digging the natural drive, and very touch sensitive and more important to me, very touch reactive. +1. The 66 is a dark-toned amp so no matter how high the quality is (it's a very good amp) that basic tone profile will affect your overdrive clarity. The Z-28 will have more clarity simply due to the difference in tone profile. If you're willing to use pedals for your dirty sounds the EZG-50 would be even more of a departure from your Maz. The EZG-50 has a Fender blackface flavor with tons of headroom. They're all great pedal platforms.
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Post by dixiechicken on Jun 18, 2014 1:26:46 GMT -7
DC here! You can't go wrong with the Route66. You can pretty much play any style of music with it. (maybe not extreme metal type of music) It is a loud amp so for church gigs I suspect you'll need a power soak of some kind unless you play clean all the time. I have the Rout66 with Dr-Z 2x10" cab closed back . I play mostly my Warmoth Telecaster with it. The Warmoth Tele is mahogany body and neck - stailess steel frets, ebony fingerboard and Seymour Duncan classic stacks. The sound is awesome and I get kudos for the tone/sound --> everytime from aný guitar nerds in the audience - Cheers: Dixiechicken
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