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Post by cragginshred on Dec 19, 2013 16:18:36 GMT -7
I am just getting up to speed on the new products in the Dr Z line up. The master volume on the Rem seems like a great feature and now the Antidote. I owned a Rem a few years back and liked it a lot mainly for Strat tones. It never really floated my boat using Humbuckers. I heard the Dote clips with folks using Les Pauls and was pretty blown away. Seems like the Dote should have gotten a Master volume too? For folks who have switch from the Rem to Dote and or used both in regards to the modern tones think Zep/ZZ how does it compare to the Rem? Someone said it is cleaner than the Rem (maybe just referring to the vintage side of the dote and the fact that the Rem does not really clean up to pristine cleans),however, with the modern option it seems like it has way more classic rock type gain on tap.
Don
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Post by bryan0418 on Dec 19, 2013 16:49:56 GMT -7
I have never played an Antidote but I own a MV Remedy. The Antidote is a lot louder than the Remedy. The Antidote is unable to get a master volume per Dr Z due to it having a cut control. Apparently he didn't like the way the MV made the amp sound. I trust his ears and he isn't going to release a MV amp just for the sake of doing so.
It really depends on what kind of player you are. Do you get your dirt from pedals or from the amp? The Antidote is designed for big stages and it will be very loud before it gives up the goods. On the plus side, all that power will give you great clean tones and a ton of headroom. If you use an overdrive pedal, an Antidote is a good platform that will never run out of volume.
I really like my Remedy. I can get real tube dirt at volumes that keep the band and sound man happy. The Remedy will also give you really good cleans too.
You can't go wrong with either.
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Post by cragginshred on Dec 19, 2013 20:06:23 GMT -7
Thanks Bryan. Good points! I am the Fractal Axe Fx II which emulates every amp 99% spot on except a Dr Z. Preferably my dirt comes from the amp and run an OD into the front to push it as well. The MV on the Rem seems cool and i need to check it out. What pedals do you run with it?
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Post by bryan0418 on Dec 19, 2013 20:22:02 GMT -7
I run a Rockbox Boiling Point into the Remedy which is set to be slightly dirty itself. I use the master volume to set the overall loudness. Also remember that the Remedy and Antodote have an EQ bypass foot switch which give it yet another stage of gain.
I have used all kinds of pedals to push the remedy. An EP boost works great. A Timmy and even a Klon.
Guys on the forum here use a Flying Dragon and seem to rave about it.
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Post by cragginshred on Dec 19, 2013 22:41:36 GMT -7
Sweet thanks. Well aware of the eq bypass! Do you have any videos on YT of the tones you are getting? Are you using single and hum buckers or what sort of tones are you going for? Thanks again!
Don
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Post by Albert on Dec 20, 2013 8:09:54 GMT -7
Don Hope this helps The Barking Moonbats Setup Tele Clean Vintage mode brakelite 1 click Barber Gain Changer HBE Mimick set for slight delay
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Dec 20, 2013 8:28:53 GMT -7
True, yes, the Doc did state in his DVD that a cut control and a PPIMV couldn't coexist. But a cut control on the Antidote? Is it on the back?? I'm not seeing it...
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Post by markT on Dec 20, 2013 8:43:56 GMT -7
True, yes, the Doc did state in his DVD that a cut control and a PPIMV couldn't coexist. But a cut control on the Antidote? Is it on the back?? I'm not seeing it... The Antidote does NOT have a cut control. It does have a Presence control. I've had both Antidote and Remedy. While I liked the Remedy, I LOVED the Antidote more. Warmer, bigger, smoother, thicker tones. I am trying to finagle a way to get my Antidote back in the collection. I always used the AirBrake with mine with great success. Sounded great even at the bedroom setting. Great clip Albert!! Great tunes, playing and tones. You could stand to TURN IT UP!!! ...the Antidote that is...guitar...
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Post by harry on Dec 20, 2013 8:54:11 GMT -7
I think he is referring to the presence.
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Post by randalp3000 on Dec 20, 2013 9:58:45 GMT -7
True, yes, the Doc did state in his DVD that a cut control and a PPIMV couldn't coexist. But a cut control on the Antidote? Is it on the back?? I'm not seeing it... Hhhmmmm, I've built quite a few amps with PPIMV and a cut control and it works very well. I agree you might be thinking of a presence control. I'm pretty sure the Rem has no negative feedback which is needed for a presence control.
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Post by Albert on Dec 20, 2013 10:21:47 GMT -7
Thanks MarkT ...it is getting harder to let this gal go . I think the Master volume may make a return as a mod in the future as more ask for it.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Dec 20, 2013 11:48:41 GMT -7
Much as I would LOVE either amp, I have the Remedy which I had retrofitted with the PPIMV and EQ Bypass which transformed it from a great amp to an even greater one!
I've heard that the Remedy is ruder than the Antidote, and judging by the clips I'd agree. I like a bit more grit in my oyster, so the Rem is ideal, but you can't go wrong with either IMHO.
I need tube zing with controllable volume so the Rem is perfect for me
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Post by markT on Dec 20, 2013 14:45:17 GMT -7
Thanks MarkT ...it is getting harder to let this gal go . I think the Master volume may make a return as a mod in the future as more ask for it. Albert, you must stop reading these threads!!... lol I highly doubt the Doc will do a master volume mod on the Antidote. He tried it before releasing it and did not care for it. Or power scaling. Plus, if he does, and you do, then I don't want it back anyway. I love it just the way it is...was...
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Post by Albert on Dec 20, 2013 16:01:42 GMT -7
Thanks MarkT ...it is getting harder to let this gal go . I think the Master volume may make a return as a mod in the future as more ask for it. Albert, you must stop reading these threads!!... lol I highly doubt the Doc will do a master volume mod on the Antidote. He tried it before releasing it and did not care for it. Or power scaling. Plus, if he does, and you do, then I don't want it back anyway. I love it just the way it is...was... Don't worry I agree with you ...doesn't need a master. .it works just fine without it
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Post by mrwu on Jan 9, 2014 7:50:46 GMT -7
I was wondering the same question as the op, glad this post shed a bit of light. Lol, basically I need them both, and a Monza...
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Post by nmz on Jan 9, 2014 9:44:17 GMT -7
I was wondering the same question as the op, glad this post shed a bit of light. Lol, basically I need them both, and a Monza... And a Z-28 !
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Post by harry on Jan 9, 2014 10:47:49 GMT -7
Might as well throw in an EZG 50 too!
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Post by gplayer1965 on Jan 11, 2014 7:26:17 GMT -7
Guys dream of a threesome. My Threesome dream is a Z28, an EZG and me. Lucky for me, my dream came true Do yourself a favor and get a Z28 and an EZG Disclaimer: I am talking amp threesomes
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