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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Aug 17, 2013 7:45:59 GMT -7
THE last time I posted in this section I didn't get a lot of response , so here I go again. i'm seriously considering an EZG head. My questions are...... 1- what speaker/speakers work the best with this amp? 2- does NOS tubes make this Great amp BETTER? 3- The Clips I have heard, English John and several others does the Gritty break up come from the Pre/post Gain Controls or does it have to be Pushed into that with a boost or OD Pedals? Frankie Starr's EZG Vids are almost Dumblish Sounding GREAT With Humbuckers? I lust those great SRV, Strat, Tele, Humbucker, Big Thick Fendery TONES. Thanks for any response given Jamie
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Aug 17, 2013 10:41:56 GMT -7
Hey Jamie - if you are looking for the SRV Strat sound it is tough to beat the EZG50 if you want to stay with DR Z amp. Sounds great through 4x10 if you have one - think Super Reverb sounds; sounds good through a G12 65, good through my ZBest cab - come to think of it, haven't heard it sound bad through any speaker. You can use pre gain controls to get it to break up earlier. John's video was able to get the SRV tones without any additional boost. You can always through in a tube screamer if you think you want more
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Aug 17, 2013 15:01:38 GMT -7
I HAVE AN all original 67' BF super reverb and its GREAT!!!! However ITS LOUD!!! its sweet spot is between 4-7 on the Volume Knob, I also Love the sound of 12"s I use to use it with a Head Cab But not much Lately. I also have it Modded To Breakup much faster and at Lower Volumes. I just Love the Sounds Of the EZG Thanks for the REsponse. I guess I'll see what I can do to see about Test driving one.
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Post by T-R☼CK ♫ on Aug 17, 2013 15:40:34 GMT -7
I HAVE AN all original 67' BF super reverb and its GREAT!!!! However ITS LOUD!!! AND..... maybe U think the EZG, ummm..... ISN't? We're talking "Z" watts here, Bruthr. HowEVER, I guaranTEE you..... the EZG will slap your '67 Super, & make her LIKE it.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Aug 17, 2013 16:06:25 GMT -7
I HAVE AN all original 67' BF super reverb and its GREAT!!!! However ITS LOUD!!! AND..... maybe U think the EZG, ummm..... ISN't? We're talking "Z" watts here, Bruthr. HowEVER, I guaranTEE you..... the EZG will slap your '67 Super, & make her LIKE it. I also have an original 66 BFSR - EZG50 is just as loud if not louder as Tony hints at
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Aug 18, 2013 9:00:46 GMT -7
Silly Rabbit! I am ( I thought the controls Pre/Post were similar to Master Volume? Just control Gain Only? I realize its a 50 Watter Correct? Im gonna test Drive one and go from there . I Love me some REVERB!!!!
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Post by Grinchmonkey on Aug 18, 2013 18:19:44 GMT -7
I was just wondering the same thing. Does the Pre-Post not work like a master volume? This amp may unfortunately be too loud for me. But I really want one!
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Post by thecryingstrat on Aug 19, 2013 6:48:38 GMT -7
I feel that the pre/post is one of the great things about this amp. However i don´t think it´s to be used to get plenty of preamp overdrive and use the master to attenuate. You don´t get much crunch this way. And that´s what i love. Instead you can get a meaty and fat sound and use post to taste to accomodate final volume. It´s a completely different sound to using post wide open and very little pre (if you are going for low volume) That´s a great idea behind this. You can get a fat tone at whatever volume you use it.
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Post by Rich (fbb90) on Aug 19, 2013 9:45:11 GMT -7
I guaranTEE you..... the EZG will slap your '67 Super, & make her LIKE it. The MAN has a way w/ words...
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Post by mtlrecords on Aug 19, 2013 12:22:50 GMT -7
Z 10's sound very Bassman/Super Reverb-ish with snap and thumping lows. 4x12 cabs (Vintage 30's or Celestion G12-75's) tend to sound a bit more smooth and balanced, a little less bass in my experience.
NOS tubes could be cool, but I've primarily been using new tubes.
Pre/Post controls give you fatter, slightly distorted tones at very different volumes, depending on settings. The controls do not work like a Marshall JCM 800 or similar with a pre (gain) and post (master volume) where you can crank the gain and lower the master for nearly the same type of crunch. It's hard to pinpoint until you try it but if you're ideal sounds go from Fender pristine clean to gritty Tweed meets slightly scooped Twin- you're in for a treat. It's overdriven sounds are very different from the other Z's I tried. Less mids, more "sizzle" and overall a very responsive, less gainy sound.
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Post by lumco on Aug 19, 2013 17:41:08 GMT -7
I am enjoying this thread, as I too am considering a EZG-50. I am at a little loss as to what speakers to use, would prefer 2x12. So you fellow Z players keep throwing your ideas out there and I will keep reading.
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Aug 19, 2013 19:26:04 GMT -7
I TOO, would like to run with a 1x12 or 2x12 , I usually run my Super Through My Z 2x12 Loaded with SCUMBAGS. J/M pretty KIller Clean To Mean. I agree all Z's are Loud But that Old Super will Hang with the EZG without a Doubt in my mInd. The breakup is what I lIke about the EZG not how LOUD it is or can get. Im gonna go to my LOcal DRZ DEALER And take it for a drive. Does anyone know what OD pedals are BEST? LIke the OLd fenders They have a scooped or slightly flat Midrange and Bass drops slightly off at High Volumes , does the EZG Eliminate these Problems?
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Post by mtlrecords on Aug 19, 2013 20:22:43 GMT -7
If I was wanting a 1x12 for gigging it would be either between a Celestion G12-65 or perhaps a D-130 or big EV speaker.
The breakup is fairly unique in the Z stable. The EZG-50 is somewhat like Fender amps I have played, in that the mids are a bit scooped and the tone stack is similar, although more subtle. The bass on the EZG-50 is huge. Many users here turn it off or way down. It's big, but that's why it's on a dial- add or subtract to taste.
The EZG-50 takes most gain pedals well. I like OCD and TS type pedals a little better with Marshall type amps, although the EZG takes them pretty well too. The EZG excels, IMO, with fuzz. Run a Muff (or muff style fuzz) into the EZG and be prepared to hear your fuzz really have impact! Add some amp crunch and the options expand. Hope that helps!
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Aug 20, 2013 10:44:35 GMT -7
AWESOME, I hAVE AN ORIGINAL 81' 12-65 AND A EVM/L THE D=130? IS THAT A JBL?? DONT HAVE ONE OF THOSE>? (
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Post by T-R☼CK ♫ on Aug 20, 2013 14:20:37 GMT -7
AWESOME, I hAVE AN ORIGINAL 81' 12-65 AND A EVM/L THE D=130? IS THAT A JBL?? DONT HAVE ONE OF THOSE>? ( Yup. Big 'ol 15" AlNiCo. Got a cpl here from the early 80s. Wicked cool!
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Post by Joey Beverages on Aug 20, 2013 19:24:49 GMT -7
Yo T-Rock, whatcha doin' in this part of the forum .... fixin' to get yerseff an EZG? cheers always, eh Joel
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Post by T-R☼CK ♫ on Aug 21, 2013 0:45:17 GMT -7
Yo T-Rock, whatcha doin' in this part of the forum .... fixin' to get yerseff an EZG? cheers always, eh Joel 'Juss spreadin' a little hate & discontent, Bruthr...
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Aug 21, 2013 7:54:19 GMT -7
TOO FUNNY THAT TROCK IS..... GOTTA LOVE A GALAXIE BROTHER! IM GASSING FOR AN EZG>>>!!!!!!!
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Post by shiner51 on Aug 24, 2013 18:05:07 GMT -7
muzacman02, I just got a used EZG-50 head, its a keeper and the best amp I have ever owned in over 40 years of playing. I was looking for a 67 Super because that was my first good amp when I was really young. I foolishly sold it back in the 70s when I got out of music for a while. I didnt want a reissue and since most of the originals have been modded or recapped, I just wasnt sure what I would be getting. I started looking for something close and the EZG was recommended, and the recommendations were correct. I think it has better reverb, tighter bottom end, and the pre post controls make it more useable at lower levels. I am using it with a Fender Blues Deluxe ext 1-12 cab with the stock Celestion g12 80p and it sounds great to me. I also tried it with a 1-12 Cannibis Rex in a convertible cab and an open back 4-10 with Jensens from a Bassman reissue , and to me the 1-12 Celestion sounds best. I am still experimenting with speakers and I havent needed to crank the amp much at all but it sounds best with the Celstion but they all sound great. Now I am determined to sell off some of my Fender amps and get a MAZ-18 and have the best of both worlds
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Post by SuperSonic on Aug 25, 2013 5:23:26 GMT -7
We ave had a 2x12, 2x10 shorty and 4x10 Z, they all sounded great. The 4x10 remains. The pre to me increases the compression and the post opens it up. Turning up the pre increases the touch sensitivity and the post give a squishy spank. To my ears when Jr. Plays by himself more post gives him a spanky fat sound that is very appealing. When in a band situation, increased pre cuts through much better. Jr. Tends to use the pre at a level and most as volume control when playing out. The EZG has sent many a boutique amp packing.
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Aug 25, 2013 9:33:05 GMT -7
Yeah, The Fender tone is what I first Was Addicted to, You can do cleans and Push it into Big OD Sounds too, I'm really Considering getting one, Head Or Combo? Head Most Likely for me I would be able to use in more Speaker Options, my 2x12 Z Loaded Scumback Cab would Probably be AMAZING!! as it is with every amp I own, But 2x10 would be the Next choice......
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Post by SuperSonic on Aug 25, 2013 11:56:29 GMT -7
Honestly the 4x10 is made for this amp. We had a combo for a while. Converted back to head. The amp is amazing.
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Post by muzacman02 "Jamie" on Aug 25, 2013 13:28:15 GMT -7
I have a 4x10 I guess I could wire my Super for 8 Ohms? Or us it in stereo ? 2x10 x 2:)) a 1x12 is my first choice, The Z 4x10 I had I also sold To Braksys , In Good Hands KILLER CAB!!!!!!
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Post by canodan on Sept 14, 2013 13:18:07 GMT -7
beautiful fender blackface sound for sure. that's exactly what i thought anyway when i saw the demo vid on the dr. z web site. i play more rock stuff, so i knew it wasn't the first choice for me. but maybe down the line a combo would be a great choice for me. and i can always hook up a 4x10 as well. god damn, the Z's have it all! no need to go anywhere else really!!!
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Post by gplayer1965 on Sept 23, 2013 17:07:41 GMT -7
Canodan: you will get hooked soon. it is addicting. I started with a Monza, then got the maz 38 head with a 1x12 cab then got the Z28 then got another 1x12 cab then got the rt 66 and got a 1x15 cab, then traded the Monza for a CG with a Z best 2x12 cab and should have an EZG head sometime this week (Hopefully Thursday) I see an Antidote in my future and I don't play in a band and don't play that good but I love the tone and dynamics of the few chords I know when amplified by a Z. My experience was limited to a Peavey amps and a Marshall JCM 900 head but when I heard the Z I was hooked. I dedicate my tunes to my neighbors that can hear me a mile away lol
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Post by canodan on Sept 24, 2013 13:20:21 GMT -7
awesome! yeah when the Antidote came out, I immediately thought that it was the Z amp for me. I'm a rock guy so the Remedy is a fantastic choice, but I love the cleaner sound of the Antidote. I'm going to wait a bit before I dive into one though. I really am enjoying the simplicity of the 3 knob design on the route 66. And the tone is to die for as well. I'm slowly building my arsenal. I want to get another 112 cab for sure, maybe with a creamback (I have only heard great things about this on the forum). only having 2 strats to my name, a les paul is an obvious choice as well. I kinda want that in there as well before I get another amp.
But the EZG50 is DEFINITELY probably next in line behind an Antidote. My friend I have been playing in bands and jamming with since high school, through college and after has always been a vintage fanatic. He has always had blackface twins, deluxe reverbs, pro reverb, super reverbs, bassmans, you name it. And I think it really hits that sound PERFECTLY without the hassle of being a nearly 50 year old amp.
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