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Post by u2radio on Oct 30, 2006 19:07:22 GMT -7
What do you feel is best. Celestion blues? weber blue and silver combo or weber speakers. Or maybe some 10's?
Let me know what you think
Evan
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Post by taswegian on Oct 30, 2006 19:21:05 GMT -7
If I remember right, the Doc actually likes the greenbacks with the Z28. Depends what sounds you're after I guess. What kinda music do you play? There is Zane's clip with the Z28 and 2-12 Celestion Blues in the sounds section somewhere. I have a custom heritage Celestion speaker which is kinda a modded greenback. I've been hangin' to try it out with my bro in law's Z28. I'll let you know how that sounds if I do.
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Post by u2radio on Oct 30, 2006 20:30:34 GMT -7
Thanks alot. I play thru 2x12 blues right now, but I have totally garbage tubes in the amp (came with when I bought it used) so after I retube i'll get a better feel for how everything sounds. I know you play a route 66 and that's my next buy. what cab do you run with that?
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Post by u2radio on Oct 30, 2006 20:31:34 GMT -7
I play rock music, you can get hear what i'm going for at www.myspace.com/jupitermusic I wanna be able to do, full on rock, to sweet blues, to nice break up from pick attack.
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Post by taswegian on Oct 30, 2006 20:59:59 GMT -7
Thanks alot. I play thru 2x12 blues right now, but I have totally garbage tubes in the amp (came with when I bought it used) so after I retube i'll get a better feel for how everything sounds. I know you play a route 66 and that's my next buy. what cab do you run with that? Hey great stuff u2radio! I would think the 2-12 blues would work really well for that style. Personally I would rule the 10's out for what I think you're going for. I play my Route 66 through a stock ZBest 2-12. Sounds awesome with the Z28 too. A Stangray might work really cool for your thing too just to throw more fuel on the fire! ;D I also have an Ulbrick closed back 1-12 for smaller cover gigs but I generally play through the Zbest. I also have a 1-12 open back that I might throw a Celestion Gold into when they arrive on the scene down here. I recon if you retube and get a fresh bias done the 2-12 blues will kill. Sounds to me like you need two stangrays in stereo on the outside and a cranked Rt 66 or Z28 in the middle for the grunt with a A/B switch ;D I would dig that rig also! Let us know how you go and good luck with the band.
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Post by u2radio on Oct 30, 2006 22:14:20 GMT -7
I definitely will. I had a chance to play a stangray very briefly about a month ago, wonderful lush cleans, but seems like it would be STUPID loud to get any dirt. Also I thought of the idea of getting the 2x12 cab and having seperate inputs for each 12 than an input for both, that way I could run the route and z28 through 1 2x12 sound like a good idea you think? What speaker do you prefer with the route? if you prefer a blue, maybe I could just get two golds that way it wouldn't blow anything
Thanks
Evan
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Post by taswegian on Oct 30, 2006 22:41:33 GMT -7
The Route 66 is pretty darn loud when you get into dirt department too. I tried to run the Rt 66 and Z28 in stereo at a gig in a small/medium size club and it was just too much. I ended up putting the standby on one and ran the other by itself which was cool to compare mid gig. I switched amps around for different songs. Maybe running both into 1/12's might have been better but I had the Z best and Dr Z 4/10 cab I haven't tried any alnico speakers with the 66, that's why I'm kinda keen to try the gold in my open back cab. With the 66 I really like the Zbest (g12H30/vintage30) I think it sounds as huge as an old quad but half the weight and space. Speaker experimentation is one thing I haven't done alot of as I just don't have access to alot of speakers down here. I also run the 66 into this cab www.ulbricksound.com/Default.asp?p=PT&id=13The speaker is a custom made Celstion heritage V35 which is like a tamed Vintage 30 or a greenback with tighter bottom end. It's rated at 35 watts and has a db rating of 97 so it's quite inefficient which is what I wanted. Trying to tame the volume for smaller clubs. It works really well for this. The bass player really likes it 'cause he thinks I'm too much in his frequency field with the Z best. I prefer multiple speakers though, or stereo rigs. But sometimes it's all just too much. Kinda why I want a ghia too.
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Post by JD on Oct 31, 2006 6:02:40 GMT -7
The great thing about a head and cab is you can go with multiple cabs depending on your venue (and amount of GAS). Anyhow I have both the Z 2x10 which I love but it is fairly loud, I also have a Z 1x12 with a Vintage 30. You hear the 2 different cabs at my site, the audio recordings are with the 2x10 cabinet (on the Live at Live recording) - Check out the 2nd guitar solo I Just Want a Little Bit - uses a Fat Boost for the lead. www.houndstoothblues.com/music/The video clips are with a 1x12, you can check out Let Me Love You Baby which only uses the camcorder mic www.houndstoothblues.com/news/ or check out Messin with the Kid (1st solo) that uses the recording from mics to digital 8 track. www.houndstoothblues.com/video/. On both of these I use a Full Drive 2 pedal.
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Post by u2radio on Oct 31, 2006 10:43:24 GMT -7
Wow! Nice! great tone indeed, JD! Taswegian, if you had to run a 1x12 with the route 66 what speaker would you choose? the one in the ulbrick sound you think? I wanna have 2 2x12's one for a route and z28 to run at larger venues if it calls for it, and i wanna have 1 2x12 wired seperately to run the 28 and route 66 at the same time, just using less space and less volume, (I plan on attenuating both) so I can get great break up and what not. if you had to use 1 speaker for the route 66 would it be the one in the ulbrick sound? I suppose I should probably buy the route 66 before getting all this planned out..... ahh if funds were infinite.
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Post by taswegian on Oct 31, 2006 17:43:06 GMT -7
Mmm, hard choice and again would depend on what I was trying to do. Since you're probably not trying to tame volume or get early break up in that situation it opens it up a bit. Alnico or Ceramic? My choice might be a Celestion G12H-30, especially if you are running the Z28 at the same time. The G12H has lots of bottom end and lower mids. It probably lacks a little projection in the top end but you would get all that and more from the Z28 which has such a sweet upper range. I think it would work great in combination. That would be a great sounding rig. If you go ahead with it you're gonna have to let us know how it sounds! Cheers.
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Post by u2radio on Nov 7, 2006 21:16:55 GMT -7
I was thinking more along the lines of alnico. like weber 30 watt blue But haven't had much experience with the G12h20. Hmm food for though
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Post by zdogma on Nov 11, 2006 13:40:08 GMT -7
I heard a fellow paying a z28 the other night into 2 10 inch alnico tone tubbies and it was excellent.
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Post by Curt on Nov 11, 2006 16:42:35 GMT -7
I was thinking more along the lines of alnico. like weber 30 watt blue But haven't had much experience with the G12h20. Hmm food for though These two are my top two for a 1x12 set up with a 66. Curt
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