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Post by guitarboy02451 on Jun 25, 2006 6:59:27 GMT -7
Does anyone know the ohms of the speakers in a stock Z-Best cab? (G12H/V30 mix).
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Post by billyguitar on Jun 25, 2006 8:33:09 GMT -7
Safe bet is they are twice the impedance as what the cab is rated.
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Post by guitarboy02451 on Jun 26, 2006 2:45:41 GMT -7
Safe bet is they are twice the impedance as what the cab is rated. ah! Ok so if the cab is a 8 ohm cab, the speakers are 16ohms?
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Post by hipfan on Jun 26, 2006 5:10:00 GMT -7
Yep, that's likely right. They should be a pair of 16 ohm speakers, wired in parallel, for an 8 ohm total load.
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Post by guitarman1 on Jul 13, 2006 8:10:40 GMT -7
Yep, that's likely right. They should be a pair of 16 ohm speakers, wired in parallel, for an 8 ohm total load. That's how my Z-best came. The cab had an 8 Ohm emblem and it contained one 16 Ohm g12h & one 16 Ohm Vintage 30. My Maz 1x12 combo came with a 16 Ohm g12h, so I assume that Mike generally buys 16 Ohm Celestions for inventory simplicity.
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Post by James on Sept 19, 2006 8:14:23 GMT -7
I am new to the speaker swapping game................I just bought a weber bluedog, 50 W alnico that is 8 ohms. If I run it with another speaker in my z best and I wanna leave it wired up in parallel: does the other speaker have to be 8 ohms as well? If so, will my 8 ohm cabinet now become a 4 ohm cabinet? Does a 4 ohm cabinet sound different than an 8 ohm cab? how?
Lotsa questions! I am thinking that a weber blue dog with a silver bell ceramic of the same wattage would be a nice "best of both worlds" combo in the z best.
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Post by johnnyl on Sept 19, 2006 9:45:23 GMT -7
Yep, if you want the 8ohm you bought to go in there the other speaker has to be 8 ohms as well. If your cab is currently 8 ohms then you have 2 16's in there. You never want to mix & 8 ohm and 16 ohm speaker in the same cab though. Putting 2 8 ohm speakers in it will get you to 4 ohms (parallel). Just make a note of how everything is wired up and you can easily wire up the two new 8 ohm speakers. I don't think there's much of a noticeable difference between 8 & 4 ohms. I believe the 4 ohms works the transformer a little more is all.
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Post by guitarstan on Sept 19, 2006 13:45:11 GMT -7
yes that is correct.
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Post by teleman69 on Sept 20, 2006 6:57:52 GMT -7
Here is the question of the day. With the multiple outputs on a Dr Z amp, is there any noticeable sound difference if you use a 2x12 8ohm cabinet or a 2x12 4ohm cabinet?
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Post by teleman69 on Sept 22, 2006 5:26:24 GMT -7
Thought that I would try this again. From my previous post:
"Here is the question of the day. With the multiple outputs on a Dr Z amp, is there any noticeable sound difference if you use a 2x12 8ohm cabinet or a 2x12 4ohm cabinet? "
Any thoughts? There is a lot of experience on this website and I was hoping that someone would have some advice on this. Thanks
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Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Sept 22, 2006 6:02:59 GMT -7
Teleman, I can't tell that much of a difference between my 2x12 cabs that have been run with the same type weber speakers at 4 and 8 ohms ( also I'm fix'in to do some more speaker swapping for fun and one open back 2x12 is going to be 4 ohms again... sounds fine) I hear a little more of a difference with the 2x12 16 ohm cab I have but it may be more to do with the fact that it is run in series than just the ohm difference... that one is going to be changed to 4 ohms too for the safety of the speakers ( celestion blues) after another thread was talking about how the series wiring can possibly fail causing the blues to fry…. And I like the 4 ohm and 8 ohm parallel wiring better anyway... seems a little hotter louder and punchier than that 16 ohm series cab regardless of the speakers, although the celestion blues sounded better/ hotter than any of the other speakers run 16 ohms series... and I switched the Blues in that cab from 16 ohm series to 4 ohm parallel for fun just to see and although I liked them run 4 ohm a little better, with the blues there was the LEAST difference in how hot they sounded when changed, the others used were Webers and ceramic stock celestions ( g12 h30/ V30) … I think that’s just the blue though, real hot speaker… But one NEAT thing about the Weber 50 watt alnico blue silver wired with that same 16 ohm series cab the way it came was ( btw it was Madisons cab, THANKS BILL ;D ) with the RX ES and other more powerful amps it seemed to tame/ attenuate them naturally just a little and make them slightly more usable volume wise… maybe that’s the slight difference I was hearing with the 16 ohm series 2x12… Overall to me 4 ohm and the 8 ohm are equally nice… so maybe if your gonna do a lot of speaker swapping and you have any 1x12 cabs, using 8 ohm speakers would be beneficial… But if your gonna run more than one cab with one head ( especially the 2x12 cabs as you would need the 16 ohm speakers to have the cab run parallel @ 8 ohms)… you want the cabs to all be 8 ohms so when you run the 2 cabs you’ve got a 4 ohm load… I guess it just depends on HOW your gonna use your set-up and what you’ve got… probably way more useless info than you needed/ wanted… but I hope some of it helps and answered your question rather than just confusing you more… Jason
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