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Post by sdeyoung19 on Mar 4, 2013 8:16:45 GMT -7
I'm going to be ordering an EZG-50 in a couple of weeks. Question is, what speaker configuration do I go with? I'm looking at either 2x10 or 2x12 configuration. I emailed Z and they suggested Celestion G12-65's. What's everyone else's thoughts on this? I do have G12-65's in an old Marshall 4x12. I was thinking about getting them reconed and possibly using those. Don't know how they would compare to a new G12-65. I also have 1 Alnico Gold. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Post by mtlrecords on Mar 4, 2013 13:14:03 GMT -7
Dig into the EZG thread- plenty of suggestions to be found there. G12-65's are ok. Dr. Z 4x10 seems to be the most popular and I have one on order (should be here in a couple weeks). I like 4 Vintage 30's in an Orange cab as I've mentioned before and you can't go wrong with anything designed to work with (vintage) Fender Twins, Super Reverbs or Bassmans like Jensen C12N's, Utah 15" speakers, etc.
Best of luck!
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Post by sdeyoung19 on Mar 4, 2013 13:22:39 GMT -7
Thanks for the reply.. I was in at the local music store today and I decided to order the EZG-50. I guess I'll do some more digging on speakers while I wait for it to come in!
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Post by mfirst on Mar 4, 2013 13:59:49 GMT -7
I had an EZG 50 for a while. I liked it, but didn't completely bond with it. I bought it with a 2x10 cab, which was nice. I later bought a 1x12 with a G1265 which was also nice. I sold my EZG because I had other Zs that saw more use, I wish I'd kept it, but at the time something needed to move. I later heard an EZG 50 through a 4x10 and said to myself, I should have just bought that cab to begin with. The EZG really shines with Doc's 4x10. If you can swing it and don't mind moving it I think it's the way to go.
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Post by sdeyoung19 on Mar 4, 2013 15:10:36 GMT -7
Cool! Thanks for the suggestion. I was really thinking of the 4x10 since I've been hearing everyone rave about it with the EZG.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Mar 4, 2013 17:14:36 GMT -7
The 4x10s give it that BF Super Reverb Vibe - only better. That said, it also sounds really big with a Z-best.
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Post by beano on Mar 6, 2013 18:44:45 GMT -7
Cool! Thanks for the suggestion. I was really thinking of the 4x10 since I've been hearing everyone rave about it with the EZG. I don't want to confuse you, but I A/B'd both the standard cabs, 4x10 and 2x12, in a room in my local music shop. Eventhough everone, even at the store was suggesting the 4x10, I still went for the open back standard 2x12, just with Doc's standard set of speakers. The bass was much sweeter than on the 4x10, which was too bassy. But keep in mind, the projection of the 4x10 seems to be a lot better than the 2x12 and you should decide based on what you're going to use the amp for. That's also the reason you see a lot of people having both cabs and swtiching between both depending on the situation. Also, the guitar has a lot to do with the sound too, I tried an almost identical strat as my own one at the shop, but they sound completely different (I have super high action and big strings), so just make sure you bring your own guitar when testing amps and cabs.
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Post by brayks on Mar 6, 2013 20:09:40 GMT -7
I've tried a whole bunch of speaker/cab combo's and have been very happy the last year or so with the doc's 2x12 cab loaded with G12-65's.
To me there is just to much bass in the Z-Best for the EZG-50 for my use.
Works the best in my rig in our Classic Rock and Blues band. Close 2nd Doc's 4X10...
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Post by sdeyoung19 on Mar 7, 2013 8:58:33 GMT -7
Thanks for all the suggestions guys.. I think for now I'm gonna go with a 2x12 with a WGS ET65 (g12-65 clone) and since I already have an Alnico gold I'll use that. I hope they both sound good together. Now I play the waiting game for the EZG-50 to show up...
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Post by mtlrecords on Mar 8, 2013 8:28:01 GMT -7
I find the G12-65 to be a nice compromise. It feels a bit lacking on the sweet high end compared to a Greenback or Alnico Blue/Gold, but it's has very solid lows and IMO pretty transparent or accurate mids. Maybe pairing it with a Gold will help fill in the missing attributes of the G12-65 (or WGS ET65 in your case, I have not tried that exact version). Open back is going to affect the tone too, naturally filling the space a little more while removing some of the directionality or throw associated with the Z-Best.
I'm going the other direction at the moment, with closed back 2x12's, 4x12's and a 4x10 (still waiting on that, ordered mid January '13. You're killing me Smalls!). The EZG has been a more difficult amp to dial in than some but boy, when I can get everything working (right speaker, right cab, right guitar, right volume/tone settings for the room...look out! It's a powerful tool.
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Post by sdeyoung19 on Mar 10, 2013 14:05:28 GMT -7
Yeah I can't wait till I get it.. Like any head you have to match is up with the right cab and speakers.. I'm still searching for the right combo with my Dumble D'lite. The only thing I like with that head is my Marshall 4x12 and I'm getting sick of carrying that thing around. I want a killer sounding 2x12 that will hopefully do almost the same as the 4x12.
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Post by settebello on Mar 10, 2013 23:11:13 GMT -7
WGS G12C's are great with the Evan.
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Post by thecryingstrat on Apr 6, 2013 6:32:38 GMT -7
I own an EZG. I tried a bunch of speakers,mostly running in 2x12 configuration as well as 1x12. I really like the g1265 and really like wgs et65. I also tried a 2x10 with Z speakers.
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Post by waka52 on Apr 30, 2013 9:23:53 GMT -7
I just got my EZG yesterday. I tried it last night with a WGS-ET65 and it was very good but I actually like the Eminence Red, White & Blue better for getting me closer to a sweeter, fenderish sound. I grew up with an old 65' pre-CBS Twin. While I'm not looking for that sound, I enjoy a tone that leans in that direction. The EZG was a perfect answer. I bought my first DR Z Super Z in 2001? Somewhere in that neighborhood. I still have the 3 X 10 cab loaded with Dr. Z 10s so I'm trying that tonight. I fully suspect that will be that cab I go with. I use it with my Remedy and it screams.
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Post by bloozeman on Dec 8, 2013 14:08:32 GMT -7
I think Im going to be purchasing an EZG50 head real soon, I could pair it with my Z 1x12 cab with a vintage 30 that I use for my maz 18, or, I have an extra set of weber speakers, a 50 watt blue dog and a 50 watt silver bell. How would the webers fare with the EZG 50? I could buy a 2x12 cab and use the webers?
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Post by Ridgeback on Dec 8, 2013 17:58:12 GMT -7
Well I just missed being able to give you a report on the silver blue combo with the EZG. I just sold my silver blue (both 50 watt ceramics) 2x12 cab a few weeks before getting the EZG. Those two speakers really match up well together and I liked that cab with my Ghia and Ray but those amps are now gone as well in my recent gear turnover. That cab definitely had a British voicing, which may or may not be what you want with the EZG. I'm playing my recently acquired EGZ through a 2x12 loaded with a Weber 12A150 and 12F150. Obviously a very different sounding cab. I have a 1x12 Gold cab but have not tried the EZG through it yet.
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Post by bloozeman on Dec 8, 2013 18:54:09 GMT -7
Im wanting the best stevie ray fat thick tone as much as possible with the EZG. Ive sold my fenders after getting my maz 18 because after using the maz, nothing could compete with that tone. Now Im wanting the blackface thick SRV tone with the EZG and sold my twin to help purchase the EZG
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Post by Ridgeback on Dec 8, 2013 19:12:59 GMT -7
Too bad you already sold your twin. I was going to suggest running the EZG through those speakers to see if they got you close to what you were looking for. Short of a 4x10 with P10Rs or P10Q's, I would guess that speakers similar to the models I have (C12N and\or P12N) or maybe even some kind of 1x15 would be the ticket. There are several threads in the EZG section discussing speakers but I don't remember specifics other than everyone seems to like Doc's 4x10. I've never played through or heard Doc's 4x10 cab. Not an intuitive first choice as far as replicating a super reverb only because the Doc's 10's are 75 watt ceramics. Not at all like the speakers in a super reverb.
PS congratulations on your new EZG.
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Post by bloozeman on Dec 8, 2013 19:17:39 GMT -7
I haven't bought the ezg yet, but will be getting one soon
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Post by nocasterman on Dec 8, 2013 22:08:11 GMT -7
I am really glad this post came up, I don't write often, but read daily and take everything in. I just picked up an EZG50 head and matching Z 4x10 cab from teleb487.......AWESOME person to deal with. Before I could buy the rig, the reverb quit working so being the original owner he sent it in to Z. Of course they went above and beyond as they always do and did the following:
-We ended up installing new reverb cables and relocating a new reverb tank on the front panel of your cab to lower the reverb hum - no charge - Your original tank / bag and cables will be returned - The problem with reverb cutting out was related to a reverb cable - Feedback artifact when pre and post set above 3:00 fixed - no charge - The bass reduction mod was done - $30 - JJ GZ34 rectifier was replaced - $15 ( fuse blew as soon as amp was taken off standby ) - (2) TUNGSOL 12AX7 preamp tubes were replaced due to hum $30 ( originals will be returned , will work fine as spares )
I bought this amp and cab without ever playing one.........a first for me. I had him ask about the bass mod since it was there and I had read there was to much bass. They did the mod and when the amp and cab came they worked perfectly. I am having a little trouble bonding with this amp. Maybe it is the cab.......I REALLY want to love this thing to death like I do my Ray and Soldano Hotrod 25. I have Z-best cabs and Z-verbs for both of them and run them AB/Y....heaven folks. But I am missing that black face and SRV sound that I fell in love with years ago. I felt in my heart and from youtube and reading here Evan was the way to go. There is something in the mid range that has a kind of maybe droning sound, or mid hump, the best way I can describe it that bugs me. And I am wishing for a little more bass, so I am second guessing the bass mod since I never played one without it. When I hook it up to a Z-Best it has better bottom end and mids, but I find the V30 a little harsh. I popped some mesa 6l6's in and it sounded a little fuller, I believe the groove tubes in there are the original from 2009.
Currently I am playing a 96 Cunetto Nocaster, Fender SRV strat and 2000 R9 Les Paul through it so you have an idea of what is going in to the amp. I was thinking about trying some different speakers in the 4x10, but honestly do not know which to try, any ideas would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks
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Post by thekidking on Dec 14, 2013 19:48:47 GMT -7
nocasterman Hi, I was wondering if your experience with the ezg and z 4x10 cab is based from doing live gigs with band or just yourself at home? Thanks!
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Post by nocasterman on Dec 14, 2013 22:17:01 GMT -7
It's both. I asked my band mates and they like the sound of my Stangray and Z-best a little better. I notice when playing with the band in an open area the mids are a little less, maybe the sound from the back of the speakers is bouncing of my wall at home and making the mids more noticeable. I may try closing the back or maybe some 10" golds. Has anyone tried 4 10" golds with the EZG? I love this amp and know the sound I am looking for is in there, I just have to find the right combination to get it. I am going to get a new set of Tung-Sol 6l6GB STR per the DOC and see what that does.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 16:08:25 GMT -7
I've tried mine with Doc's 4x10, a 2x12 setup with a Gold and a G12H30 (2 Z convertible cabs side by side), and a 1x12/Gold. All three setups sound killer--the EZG would gig beautifully with the Gold alone; the Gold/G12H30 combo is particularly sweet sounding, and of course the 4x10 w/ the EZG is the stuff of legend. I'm seriously tempted to go for the J-Design 1x15, just to feel its glorious thunder.
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Post by gplayer1965 on Dec 25, 2013 20:53:22 GMT -7
When I first acquired my EZG I did try it with a 1x12 gold and I liked it. The I played it with a 15" and liked it as well. The 15'' went to the Maz 38 and I got a 2x10 DR Z for the EZG, not bad, till today when I went back to the gold and now I think the 2x10 have a bit of a "honk" and the gold sounds much better......just my opinion based on "today" . Tomorrow is a different day
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Post by thekidking on Dec 26, 2013 21:08:30 GMT -7
Has anyone tried out 10" Jensen Falcon's or P10r's..(original or reissues) with the EZG + 4x10 cab? Cheers
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