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Post by 6strang (aka Paul) on Feb 15, 2013 8:07:33 GMT -7
Hey all - I am back in the Remedy club with one of my favorite Z amps...
I popped a 5751 in V1 to achieve a touch less input gain from V1.
Needless to say it did the trick. I have a bit more clean headroom and can get the power tube push I was wanting. YMMV - but it works well for me!
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Post by kc on Feb 15, 2013 15:49:59 GMT -7
Might have to give this a try, thanks Paul.
kc
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Post by Andy 67 on Feb 16, 2013 1:20:48 GMT -7
I think it was Myles who once said that placing a 5751 in the PI position in the Remedy would do the trick much better, so try if that's what you want to get. Tons of tone!!
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Post by 6strang (aka Paul) on Feb 18, 2013 6:33:28 GMT -7
I tried some swapping with the 5751 in PI position and 12at7 in V1. I like it very much. Thanks for the info Andy67! Paul
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Post by Andy 67 on Feb 18, 2013 10:49:36 GMT -7
Thanks to Myles, for sure! You're welcome, bro!! Tons of tone!!
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Post by ampedup on Feb 18, 2013 21:04:59 GMT -7
worked for me as well. Great sounding tube.
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Post by stratman89 on Feb 20, 2013 19:10:11 GMT -7
What brand of 5751 did you use Paul? I'm very interested in trying this tube.
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Post by redzsrock on Feb 20, 2013 19:36:13 GMT -7
Hmmm... a little bit more clean headroom outta the Remedy?? I'm listening...
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Post by 6strang (aka Paul) on Feb 20, 2013 20:44:18 GMT -7
I used a GE 5751. I won't say it turned the amp into a JTM 45 type - but the amp with that tube and the RCA black plate 12at7 work pretty good. I might try a 5751 in v1 as well...
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Post by vanceen on Feb 20, 2013 21:22:10 GMT -7
Could any of the posters who were happy with the result of using the 5751 say a little more about what they liked about the change?
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Post by vanceen on Feb 20, 2013 21:22:21 GMT -7
Could any of the posters who were happy with the result of using the 5751 say a little more about what they liked about the change?
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Post by ampedup on Feb 21, 2013 20:04:04 GMT -7
Could any of the posters who were happy with the result of using the 5751 say a little more about what they liked about the change? well it's been 7-8 months and I changed all three stock pre-amp tubes out over the course of a night but I seem to remember it smoothing things out and taking a slight edge off the distortion. It seemed to make the amp just a bit more transparent in terms of letting the sound of the guitar come through. I should mention that the change was slight and probably only noticeable because I'd already spent a few months playing the amp and had a really good feel for how it sounded with the stock tube. The replacement tube was a GE ANOS or NOS (can't remember).
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Post by vanceen on Feb 22, 2013 13:45:43 GMT -7
Could any of the posters who were happy with the result of using the 5751 say a little more about what they liked about the change? well it's been 7-8 months and I changed all three stock pre-amp tubes out over the course of a night but I seem to remember it smoothing things out and taking a slight edge off the distortion. It seemed to make the amp just a bit more transparent in terms of letting the sound of the guitar come through. I should mention that the change was slight and probably only noticeable because I'd already spent a few months playing the amp and had a really good feel for how it sounded with the stock tube. The replacement tube was a GE ANOS or NOS (can't remember). Thanks. I take that as meaning a bit less gainy. There's no doubt that the Remedy has gain to spare, unless you're playing metal (which I don't). With the EQ bypass mod I bet it's even more so. Did you substitute the PI or V1?
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Post by ampedup on Feb 23, 2013 13:00:12 GMT -7
I take that as meaning a bit less gainy. There's no doubt that the Remedy has gain to spare, unless you're playing metal (which I don't). With the EQ bypass mod I bet it's even more so. Did you substitute the PI or V1? yep, less gainy and sorry for the misdirection everybody but I put the 5751 in V3, a 7025 in V2 and kept a 12ax7 in V1 but NOS. This was based on some direction that Myles had given. Here is a quote from Myles: " The Remedy really loves a 5751 in the P.I. position for a few reasons.1. Smoother than most 12AX7s and yields more clean headroom if desired.2. A bit higher plate current when running at the same sort of voltage and bias parameters of a 12AX7 even though the gain is a bit less. The plate current controls / drives the output section a bit more accurately than a 12AX7 (most current production ones anyway).3. The Remedy is solid state rectified and a phase inverter with a bit slower rise time is preferred by many rock and blues players. Then again, if you were a heavy metal maniac the Remedy might not be a first choice for an amp."
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Post by vanceen on Feb 23, 2013 18:55:09 GMT -7
Ampedup,
That's intriguing. Sounds like you're getting closer to a Fender Tweed overdriven tone.
I'm definitely going to try it. I also like the idea of the 7025 in a gainy amp to counter the hum.
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Post by ampedup on Feb 24, 2013 0:09:18 GMT -7
Ampedup, That's intriguing. Sounds like you're getting closer to a Fender Tweed overdriven tone. I'm definitely going to try it. I also like the idea of the 7025 in a gainy amp to counter the hum. maybe? I'm not an expert on the Fender Tweeds, I do have a 5e3 but the Remedy sounds nothing like that. To me it's the Remedy sound with just a bit of the edge taken off. It's worth trying if the tubes are available to you. Good luck with your tone quest.
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Post by vanceen on Feb 24, 2013 20:36:31 GMT -7
This may sound like a stupid question, but how do you get to the tubes in this thing?
I took the four screws out of the piece covering the back, but it wouldn't budge with several firm tugs. I don't want to force anything. Am I missing a trick here?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 25, 2013 6:28:50 GMT -7
This may sound like a stupid question, but how do you get to the tubes in this thing? I took the four screws out of the piece covering the back, but it wouldn't budge with several firm tugs. I don't want to force anything. Am I missing a trick here? It will pop off - it's a tight fit and the vinyl likes to stick to itself.
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Post by vanceen on Feb 25, 2013 9:20:26 GMT -7
Thanks, bent top.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 12:35:33 GMT -7
I thought I'd resurrect this thread. I was trying to coax the Rem toward a JTM45 by softening the highs with a 5751 in V1. I did a search on the forum and stumbled across this thread. While I liked the change putting a 5751 in V1, I think I prefer it in V3. It seems subtle, but I think there's a tad less edge, especially after I put an NOS RCA 7025 in V1. I'm going to let it ride like this for a while.
Once again, thanks Z Forum for paving the way!
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Post by John on Mar 2, 2014 17:22:07 GMT -7
V3 should be the PI.
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