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Post by waynelawkid on Dec 13, 2012 18:38:10 GMT -7
I have traditionally run my wah, trem, chorus, and reverb through the effects loop of my amp, including my Maz 8. I run my overdrive/ fuzz pedals in front, of course. The problem is that I recently picked up a Ghia head and it is a pain to unhook the board from the Maz 8 loop, connect the overdrive and modulation pedals in series, and run it in front of the Ghia. Ideally I would like to be able to simply run all my pedals in front of both the Maz 8 and Ghia so I can just switch inputs between the amps.
Am I losing anything by not utilizing the loop in the Maz 8?
Is the presence of the Maz effects loop an indication that I should be using it?
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Post by tjnies on Dec 23, 2012 12:50:20 GMT -7
Surprised no one has responded yet!
No, you don't have to use it. I have everything going in the front end and it's not a problem. I actually just today tried putting my Flashback pedal into the loop and unless the George L cables were being a problem, noticed a reduction of volume.
So it went back into its normal setup. Sounds fine there.
Theoretically you should have clearer signal for time effects by using the loop.
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Post by simpleton on Dec 23, 2012 16:41:28 GMT -7
When using the effects loop, my understanding is that you may need a buffer to keep the volume up....that being said...some effects run straight into the Ghia seem to cloud the signal a little if OVERDONE...like delay with heavy fuzz...but it can be nice to bypass the pre amp tubes when using a heavier overdrive sound...keeps the delay/modulation a little more present. Either way rock and roll sounded pretty good before effects loops sooooo.....have fun!
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Post by zed on Dec 24, 2012 6:47:34 GMT -7
No, you don't have to, but I do.
One thing I did find, is if there's any trouble shooting to do, running basically two different sets of pedals cuts the headache in half.
I had trouble in the dirt section going into the front of the amp. I knew it was there, because everything in the loop was still working.
I also thought that rather than have a full run of eighteen pedals straight, this method would lessen the cable run. Of course, you're adding another two cables for the loop, so...
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Post by tjnies on Dec 24, 2012 8:49:20 GMT -7
For those who use the effects, do you keep everything on the same pedal board (or separate)? Where I'm heading is wondering how long of a cable run you have for in / out of the loop?
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Post by simpleton on Dec 24, 2012 9:22:17 GMT -7
Seems to me that using the same pedal board would be my preference. . . obviously they would still be separated like ZED recommends BUT they'd be easier to carry around. I guess it depends on how long your sets are....for a short set I'd rather have less to set up and tear down. If I was playing all night then two separate boards might be nice. If your cable runs are to long just put a buffer in the line.
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Post by pcns on Dec 31, 2012 7:13:28 GMT -7
I used my Maz 8 effects loop all the time for my delay and trem effects. They were a little brighter and clearing sounding to my ears. I made a special snake cable that had 4 channels, one was the signal from my pedal board to the input on the amp, the second was for the tone by pass switch and the 3 and 4th channels were the effects loop send and return. Worked great and sound nice Todd
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Post by zed on Dec 31, 2012 21:06:47 GMT -7
Right now everything is on one board. It's a beast of a PT Pro. I'll be splitting it up for a grab and go though. Tweaked my back one of the few times that I wrestled it out the door.
I have two PT1s that I have to set up properly this time. I got some Neutric dual female plugs to serve as patchbays. There'll be some surgery needed on the boards, but it should make for and easier time to move.
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