Post by billyguitar on Jun 20, 2006 11:11:49 GMT -7
I've read in some interviews that Larry only uses the Dumble clean channel. I always thought that was odd but that's what he said. I'm sure Doc got his info from a reliable source or he wouldn't post it. You think they'd update his website. Anyone else have a hunch what Larry might be using?
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Post by billyguitar on Jun 20, 2006 11:54:05 GMT -7
I saw Larry in Kansas City once at a concert with Chet Atkins, Leo Kottke and Steve Wariner. They all lined up across the stage and each would talk a bit, do a tune, and pass it on to the next guy. Great show. Steve Wariner had a 4' high rack of stuff and Larry used a Roland Jazz Chorus 2 x 12 amp. Larry sounded great, Wariner did not. Chet used a very small Music Man. The back up band was great. All Nashville session guys. The drummer could really groove. If Larry can sound good on the Roland, I'm really looking forward to hearing him on a Z.
Post by kerryprotools on Aug 24, 2006 9:36:01 GMT -7
A little bidrie told me Robben and Larry are both looking at the ES coupled w/ a dirtbox that starts with Ze* ***** . I think because the ES is Very ,very similiar to a Dumble. But not the Dumble everybody is thinking. The ES is almost identical tonewise to a Dumble Steel String Singer. Very loud and three dimensional. The Dumble clan is not going to make amps forever and they are already so selective, you almost need a wall of platinum to be allowed to spend your extra $30,000 you found in your gig bag that you forgot to cash...LOL :-)
today I picked up a Maz Senior 38 combo in a 1x12 cab. this amp is set to run in stereo with my fuchs (dumble clone).
Just hooked it up -- and we are talking blues/jazz/rock heaven ---- add a ZenDrive for good measure ---- and I could honestly see (better "hear") why a Robben or Larry might be looking in this direction.
If they are spotted using a Z ------ forget about prices and availability --- look what has happened with the ZenDrive --- $150 pedal selling for $450 on eBay.
If L/R decide to take the Z for a public spin --- hold on to your hats boys and girls --- it is going to be a fun ride.
Just to set the record straight, the "Z" that Larry Carlton used June 17th of last year at the Britt Festival in Southern Oregon was my MAZ 18 1 X 12 w/Celestion Vintage 30. I lent it to a long time friend of mine who plays geetar with the Spencer Davis Group so he wouldn't have to use the back line AC30. They were on the same bill as Larry and Robben Ford. When we showed up for sound check, Larry's Dumble had crapped out and he wasn't getting along with the alternative which was one of Robben's twin reverbs, so we offered up the MAZ and he liked it. He actually reamped out of the number 2 channel into the twin and that's how he played the show. The MAZ offered up most of the overdrive side and the twin...well you know. Maybe it started a love affair with Z's or maybe it's all just a rumor. Larry's comment on the MAZ when I asked him after the show....well, it didn't hold me back.
Caught Larry's show at the Blue Note in NYC Sat night. Sadly, no Z's in sight. Just two Dumble Overdrive Specials; one black, one blonde into a single 112 cab flanked by two monitor cabs. He used very little to no OD, primarily a Fendery clean sound. He digs in a bit here and there and gets some slight OD but not much. I'm sure he would get along with Z amps. Like most greats, you can easily tell his tone is in his hands and he would still sound great if he had to play through a solid state Crate.
Well, there isn't much doubt that Howard Dumble is an electronics genius, but he's clearly an egomaniacal lunatic. The rumor mill is now stating that even longtime fan/ player Larry Carlton is playing Bludotone amps. The guy running Bludotone basically "de-gooped" a Dumble and is selling clones for around $3500. If you're looking for "that tone", and I'm not, just get a Ceritone Overtone Special for $900 and be done with it.
A Dumble Steel String Singer. Very loud and three dimensional.
Didn't SRV use/ record with one of those toward the end??
Im gonna have to dig through my picture box , but I have a picture of me playing Farm Aid II , Stevie played right after us and you can see his rig behind mine .I think he had at least 2 of the Steel Stringers and maybe a Marshal head or two with some black 412 cabs . his rig swamped my old Super Reverb . this would have been 1986
Just wondering......has anyone here played a Dumble? Frankly, I just can't see an amp...any amp being better than a Dr. Z. Furthermore, a 30,000 dollar price tag seems just plain old silly.
Never played a Dumble myself, but I've heard many played live and on record and there's clearly a 'Dumble sound' which is clearly recognizable, which is VERY DIFFERENT than any Z amp I've heard (I'm talking about the overdrive special's lead tone here, not any other model). It's not really about better or worse, Dumbles are just a different beast than Z's.
I personally love that ODS lead tone. That being said, I wouldnt pay $30,000 for a Dumble or any other amp. Dumbles are definately something special, but no amp is worth that kind of coin.
I've got a Brown Note D'Lite 44 ODE, it's a Non HRM Dumble clone. I've owned 5 Z's and played most all the other's and they are nothing alike. Just a completely different thang. A Zendrive will only get ya about 1/2 way there.
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