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Post by mazmaster on Jun 22, 2012 12:15:34 GMT -7
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Post by jesslm02 on Jun 22, 2012 13:33:26 GMT -7
No, but I have a NOS 5V4 that I'm thinking of sticking in there today.
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Post by randalp3000 on Jun 22, 2012 15:43:17 GMT -7
No, but I have a NOS 5V4 that I'm thinking of sticking in there today. I was thinking the same thing for when I get mine.....
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Post by mazmaster on Jun 22, 2012 23:28:24 GMT -7
No, but I have a NOS 5V4 that I'm thinking of sticking in there today. Let us know what you think!
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Post by humbucker427 on Jun 23, 2012 4:37:53 GMT -7
No, but I have a NOS 5V4 that I'm thinking of sticking in there today. Haha... You're gonna dig that, I believe. More wattage, less clean headroom, more of that "low power Z-Wreck" sound to it. Slightly increased dynamics too with less sag, so it might be slightly less user friendly for not-so-awesome players like me. You may already know this, but for those reading that's not familiar, this will increase the amperage across the tubes to 4 amps as opposed to 3 that the 5Y3 provides, thus increasing the plate voltage.
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Post by jesslm02 on Jun 23, 2012 6:38:46 GMT -7
I admit, it sounded mighty fine! It was louder as you said it would be, and also broke up quicker comparing the volume knob with the 5y3. I noticed a little more punch as well. I can see that some players will really like this rec tube, and for good reason! I'll probably swap back and forth depending on my need.
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Post by mazmaster on Jun 23, 2012 22:17:19 GMT -7
Thanks for all the info, gents. I had a chance today to do a little more tube rollin' and found myself right back at the stock tube complement as having the best overall feel and tone with my pedals and straight in. The stock JJ 5Y3 is a little darker and saggier than the RCA, but not too much. For me, it's just right. The stock LPS PI seems to be "stronger" and more full sounding than the few NOS I tossed in there. Pretty surprising, but then again, not really, considering these are the tubes the amp was voiced and tuned with!
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Post by Maddog on Jun 24, 2012 5:13:11 GMT -7
It's hard to beat the good Doc's ears......He and his staff are usually pretty much "Right-On!"
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Post by mazmaster on Jun 24, 2012 7:46:48 GMT -7
It's hard to beat the good Doc's ears......He and his staff are usually pretty much "Right-On!" Indeed! Still a little on the fence with the Cele G12M, although I'm guessing the results would be very similar. Thing is, it's tough to compare it to other speakers w/o actually sticking them in the combo cab because enclosures have such a a strong effect, all on their own.
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Post by DRZ on Jun 24, 2012 8:35:08 GMT -7
It's hard to beat the good Doc's ears......He and his staff are usually pretty much "Right-On!" Well thanks Lee for the kind words. But everyones ears, playroom, guitar, and musical taste effects the tone of an amp to some degree. That's why every fine resturant has Salt & Pepper on the table. DR.Z
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Post by markT on Jun 24, 2012 9:12:38 GMT -7
^^^ Wow...that is the Doc being his humble, honest self. Pretty cool huh?
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Post by mazmaster on Jun 24, 2012 11:55:57 GMT -7
It's hard to beat the good Doc's ears......He and his staff are usually pretty much "Right-On!" Well thanks Lee for the kind words. But everyones ears, playroom, guitar, and musical taste effects the tone of an amp to some degree. That's why every fine resturant has Salt & Pepper on the table. DR.Z That's for sure! Everything affects everything. One thing that affected my previous tweaking was simply how I placed the amps/cabs. Due to laziness, I didn't take the M12 off the low stand it was on when comparing its stock G12M to speakers in other cabs which were on the floor. I knew it made a difference in the lows but what I did not anticipate was how it affected the mids. The M12 high mids seemed to round out and thicken a bit when on the floor, even when standing back to get more on-axis. So, with everything on the floor, I did prefer the stock G12M! LOL. Of course, the different cabs still skewed everything, but the positioning also affected the overall outcome more than I anticipated and had experienced in the past when comparing other rigs. Good stuff!
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Post by bluzman on Jun 30, 2012 19:48:55 GMT -7
It's hard to beat the good Doc's ears......He and his staff are usually pretty much "Right-On!" Well thanks Lee for the kind words. But everyones ears, playroom, guitar, and musical taste effects the tone of an amp to some degree. That's why every fine resturant has Salt & Pepper on the table.DR.Z and you have it available the grill!
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