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Post by Eddie on Jun 7, 2012 9:12:02 GMT -7
Does the M12 have an efx loop?
Eddie
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Post by humbucker427 on Jun 7, 2012 9:18:51 GMT -7
It does not.
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Post by fevzay on Jun 7, 2012 9:48:30 GMT -7
I, for one, am thankful for this. The less 'extras' it has keeps the cost down (effects loop, EQ boost, half power, etc.).
Really looking forward to hearing one of these! Doc is brilliant.
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Post by mcook217 on Jun 11, 2012 10:12:31 GMT -7
hmm.. that seems strange to me, for an amp "made for pedals." any particular reason for not having an effects loop on a pedal amp?
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Post by boptometrist on Jun 11, 2012 10:36:17 GMT -7
EF86 on the front helps reduce the need for efx loop. With massive clean headroom it should work great.
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Post by jesslm02 on Jun 11, 2012 10:48:37 GMT -7
Plus it helped keep cost down a little.
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Post by humbucker427 on Jun 11, 2012 11:27:40 GMT -7
hmm.. that seems strange to me, for an amp "made for pedals." any particular reason for not having an effects loop on a pedal amp? Good question. Typically, if you're using overdrive from your amp's preamp section, it is sometimes better (not always) to use an effects loop. However, when the preamp is sending a clean signal to the power section, it really doesn't benefit the user to have an effects loop. The exception to this may be if you're using rack mount effects processors that run on "line level". Since the M12 produces a clean signal that's being sent to the power section, running pedals on the front end would be recommended. Truth is, most pedal junkies that I know that have amps with FX loops don't ever use them. They just go straight in even if they are getting some of their overdrive from the amplifier's preamp stage. It's more of a personal preference really.
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Post by moondog8 on Jun 11, 2012 17:58:21 GMT -7
Greetings, I've been lurking for a while now as I've been contemplating taking the Z-plunge. I'm one of those guys who just plays at home (sometimes with a friend or two), gradually learning about good tone and enjoying myself. I've been dreaming about a Maz 8 for a couple of months now because it satisfies my main "requirements" for an amp: - Low power (I never play out. Just in the den, and I can't handle high volume stuff. Hurts my ears.)
- Effects loop (See below.)
- Reverb (I like reverb
- It's a Dr. Z (I've dreamed of owning one since I played a friend's several years ago.)
But the other thing about me is that I'm a complete pedal addict. I do put the majority of my pedals (dynamics and modulation) before the amp, but I use the effects loop for delays and, more importantly, my looping devices. I want my audio loops to be of the interaction between the pedals and the amp, not just the pedals. So I was just waiting for my local shop to get in a Maz 8 for me to try (to make sure the effects loop played nice with my loopers) when I saw the announcement about the M12. The idea of an clean "american-sounding" pedal-hungry amp really got my attention. I do like Fenders more than Voxs, I guess, and I don't really ever use dirty amp sounds. At most, I use OD pedals to get a little bit of hair. I was ready to order a head/cab combo without even trying one but then I saw that there was no effects loop. So I guess my question for the board's combined wisdom is: Is there a solution I'm not thinking of in terms of how to use my loopers with an amp that has no effects loop? I'm open to all ideas including those that require me to think differently about the situation. (No, I can't give up the loopers. That's what I do.) Or maybe I should just accept that the M12 is not for me. I can't imagine being that unhappy with a Maz 8. Thanks for reading, hoby
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