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Post by pickslide on Jan 9, 2012 13:47:58 GMT -7
Hey guys. I have wanted to try a Rxjr for a while. I really want an ef86 amp right now, but I want one that will do nice Vox type chime and grind. I have the Marshall thing covered with other amps. Would the jr be the right choice? Not really looking for a vox clone or a stangray type amp. I like the lower wattage on the jr, but am hoping that it will get voxy chime.
Thanks
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Post by browndog on Jan 9, 2012 15:52:12 GMT -7
My thoughts - if you configure it with a Blue, you should be able to get some nice chime. (Depends of the guitar too!)
With tone and oneness, Mike
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Jan 9, 2012 16:55:30 GMT -7
Don't forget about Stangray for that Voxy sound!
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Post by mcook217 on Jan 9, 2012 19:22:38 GMT -7
depends. if you match it with some blues you'll get pretty close depending on how you eq it. The Rx is like the love child of a vox and marshall. so it's going to have similarities to both but not exactly one or the other. if you turn it up you're going to get some marshall-esque grind. if you keep it clean with some blues you're gonna get a pretty good voxy type sound. it's super versatile, very dynamic, very percussive, and has a really nice fat low end. I'm really happy with mine
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Post by DSauls89 on Jan 9, 2012 22:06:52 GMT -7
That guy has it covered. ^
Keep in mind... a vox is a vox, and the same goes for Marshall. and each Z has it's own voice. the Jr is definitely in teh realm of Marshall/Vox but it really is it's own amp, and it has it's own true voice. You'll be pretty close with a blue. I'll admit I get some awesome cleans with mine. I like it better than what I've had with Vox mainly b/c there's more to it and it's a way more simplistic amp design with less knobs and doo-dads. I've had vox and Marshalls, but this reigns over both IMO. So watch out, you just might like the "Marshall" side of this amp more than you like the other marshall thing you've got going on as well. IMO this is what Vox and Marshall should've been all in one.
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Post by jesslm02 on Jan 10, 2012 11:58:52 GMT -7
I love my Rx Jr. It does have characteristics of both but has it's own thing as well. Can't go wrong with the Jr if your into vox and marshall sounds. You will probably forget about them when you plug into an Rx Jr anyways...
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Post by 95strat on Jan 18, 2012 21:36:03 GMT -7
I love the Rx Jr, but have been wanting more of a Vox sound. The Rx Jr is a hybred Marshall/Vox type amp. Of course Z's have their own thing going on, but that's probably the best way to describe the amp.
The biggest thing missing IMO is the mids. I love the clean side of the Rx Jr. And there's a load a bass on tap, which Voxes aren't known for. I like a healthy dose of mids and the Rx jr has a bit of a mid scoop. It's not a bad thing, but it's not Vox.
I've got a Morgan AC20 Deluxe on order. It's much more of a Vox voiced amp, but on the darker side. I can't wait to put the two side by side.
So in conclusion, if you want a Vox sound I don't think you'll find it in the Rx Jr. It has it's own great sound, but it's not a Vox.
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Post by BGiannini on Jan 18, 2012 21:43:05 GMT -7
95strats experience mirrors my own..I loved the sound of the RXjr but it just wasn't the sound I wanted all the time.. Definitely scooped mids.. I wish I had kept it but I was always playing the Ghia or the V2Mazerati and the Jr just never cut through as well for me.. BUT, it is a great sounding amp and if money was not an issue, it would still be here!! You should check out a V2 Mazerati!! Nice lows, fat mids, and sweet highs!
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Jan 19, 2012 8:19:37 GMT -7
...I really want an ef86 amp right now... Not to take away from the others' advice here, because (1) they clearly know what they're talking about and (2) I don't even have an RxJr, but... I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that the Rx isn't really an "EF86 amp" in the same sense that the others (Z28, Route 66, etc.) are. If I'm not mistaken, the EF86 is used after the tone stack, not as the V1 input tube like the old AC15's or the other Z's, for that matter. Just a technicality... please carry on...
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Post by jesslm02 on Jan 19, 2012 11:36:11 GMT -7
Speaker choice makes a big difference with RX Jr as well. With celestion blues it takes on a vox quality. The greenback will get more into marshall territory.
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Post by 95strat on Jan 30, 2012 8:54:41 GMT -7
Speaker choice makes a big difference with RX Jr as well. With celestion blues it takes on a vox quality. The greenback will get more into marshall territory. I use a Celestion Gold (close to the Blue sound) and I'd disagree. The scooped mids keep it from getting into Vox territory. But that's just my opinion. When I use my buddies AC15HW it's a completely different experience. The mids and highs are so present it's crazy. The Rx Jr has a warmer more rounded tone to me. And the attack on the Rx Jr is very aggressive. When you strum or pick your guitar it's an immediate response as opposed to sinking into the attack like other amps. Hope that makes sense.
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Post by John on Feb 3, 2012 15:58:41 GMT -7
Well, I have to ask...with all this talk of scooped mids....does this mean it's in Stangray territory? When I had my 'ray, it was definitely scooped mids...and it was glorious. But it was LOUD and I wanted just a little more grit on tap.
I have a Z-28, much more lower mid type amp..but still very percussive ef86 punch.
When I was at Z-fest 2009, I was able to A/B a Z-28 and a Rx Jr. This was a quick comparison, bedroom airbraked, no time for fiddling with eq and volume controls...I don't remember what speaker I used. But I did like the Z-28 better, but I'm gassin for something a little upper mid brighter. And if the Rx Jr is scooped mids..like a Stangray...I'm more interested now.
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Post by greenz on Mar 16, 2012 12:28:06 GMT -7
Well, I have to ask...with all this talk of scooped mids....does this mean it's in Stangray territory? When I had my 'ray, it was definitely scooped mids...and it was glorious. But it was LOUD and I wanted just a little more grit on tap. I have a Z-28, much more lower mid type amp..but still very percussive ef86 punch. When I was at Z-fest 2009, I was able to A/B a Z-28 and a Rx Jr. This was a quick comparison, bedroom airbraked, no time for fiddling with eq and volume controls...I don't remember what speaker I used. But I did like the Z-28 better, but I'm gassin for something a little upper mid brighter. And if the Rx Jr is scooped mids..like a Stangray...I'm more interested now. Yes if you have the mid control at 12'oclock or lower its mid scooped like a lil Stangray you gotta turn the mids all the way up to get what most amps would have at 12-2;oclock of course the RxJr has a bit of grit on tap and voiced well. I own a Z-28 too -fyi the EF-86 has nothing to do with the percussivesness of the amp
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Post by jesslm02 on Dec 11, 2013 8:24:25 GMT -7
When I say this amp is Vox-like, I'm not saying it's a full on Vox sound. But it can chime and jangle, no problem. Again, a lot depends on the speaker and how you set the controls, volume and master volume included. The mid control on this amp isn't what I would consider a normal mids control. It mostly controls the high mids and a very small sliver of mid frequencies. With a celestion blue/gold, or even a tone tubby low watt alnico, I can get a good bit of vox chime out of this amp that sounds very similar to the StangRay I once owned. So yes, it does have somewhat of a mid cut. But so does the 'Ray, and that is based off of one of Brad's old Voxes.
If you need more low mids/mids from this amp, search out a speaker that produces more of those frequencies. The volume controls also help shape the character of the amp so really experiment and get to know it. For max chime and headroom, the master should be all the way up. If you need some marshally grind, lower the master and turn up the preamp volume. For over the top OD, hit your boost switch.
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Post by mjd on Dec 19, 2013 6:30:11 GMT -7
i'm not too familiar with vox amps but i have had three marshalls and fenders: tweed deluxe, bf deluxe, sf vibrolux, superlead, jmp and jcm 800. to me my rx jr sounds like the 70's marshalls with the tone stack dimed and the volume at 3:00-4:00. when i scoop the mids and keep the bass and treb up i swear it sounds like an old fender tweed cranked. with the master up and volume down and mids around 10:00 and some reverb it sounds more like a bf fender to me. i play it through either one or two 1x12's with greenbacks. the mids come through pretty strong imo. i usually have it cranked and mess the guitar volume to clean it up. it sounds ridiculously sweet.
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Post by jesslm02 on Dec 19, 2013 7:11:47 GMT -7
I definitely hear/see what your saying, which somewhat corresponds with my thinking on the mid control. If you scoop the mid control on this amp, you actually tame the some of the high mids which makes it less bright and a little smoother depending on the other controls, ie your tweed fender example. The controls are so interactive there a zillion different combinations to be tried. I do like this amp with a greenback speaker but I'm experimenting at the moment to bring out more chime, which the greenback can actually do to a certain extent.
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Post by bubs42 on Dec 22, 2013 12:05:05 GMT -7
This thread helped me out, I have been wanting to get back to a Z Amplifier for some time now and I think its going to be an RX JR. I didn't like the Mini, the SRZ was so unbelievable loud it wan't funny. A friend has a Z28 and a Ghia and they both sound great but i'm looking for something a tad bit different from his amps.
Thank You Gentlemen.
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Post by jesslm02 on Dec 22, 2013 20:37:07 GMT -7
This thread helped me out, I have been wanting to get back to a Z Amplifier for some time now and I think its going to be an RX JR. I didn't like the Mini, the SRZ was so unbelievable loud it wan't funny. A friend has a Z28 and a Ghia and they both sound great but i'm looking for something a tad bit different from his amps. Thank You Gentlemen. Thats cool man. I have several Z amps and this one is still my favorite. It is different from the rest and for my needs it works great because I can't crank a StangRay or RX ES ya know. Sent from my Galaxy S4 using Proboards
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