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Post by rickc007 on Oct 18, 2011 8:58:57 GMT -7
Doc, I thought it was the other way around, i.e., true class A amps have more even order harmonics where as PP amps have more odd order harmonics, I've heard this more times than I can count Well analyzing my signal tracer the asymmetric clipped output from the MAZ 8 is much richer in 3 rd and 5 rd order harmonics. Not sure were you read/heard a different result, I guess I'll need to blow the dust off some old text books and check. DR.Z Think Doc is comparing even order to odd order harmonics on the "Same" amp, being a single ended Class A In general, Class A has More Even Order then a Class A/B Seem to hear this said in reverse a bit lately, but think the main thing is Single Ended Class A is going to sound "richer", "Fatter" (pick your favorite adjective), then a Class A/B setup
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Post by crxsh on Oct 23, 2011 21:41:02 GMT -7
A couple other 18 vs. 8 questions:
#1 — My Maz 18 had some added noise when I engaged the reverb and/or dialed up the cut knob... same w/ the Maz 8?
#2 — I had a buddy who had a Maz 18 NR and basically hated the FX loop. Apparently it's wired in after the master volume and that caused some issues that may or may not have been related to some clipping problems he was having. Also lamented the fact that it wasn't buffered. (He had to run a buffer in there.) How is it on the Maz 8? Any problems?
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Post by crxsh on Oct 30, 2011 12:37:25 GMT -7
Bump for questions that need answering.
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Post by crxsh on Oct 31, 2011 20:32:40 GMT -7
Come on... seriously?
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Nov 1, 2011 2:04:59 GMT -7
^^^
Maybe a PM two one or two people might get you an answer quicker? Looks like those with Maz8s are too busy playing 'em! ;D
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Post by pcns on Nov 1, 2011 6:05:35 GMT -7
A couple other 18 vs. 8 questions: #1 — My Maz 18 had some added noise when I engaged the reverb and/or dialed up the cut knob... same w/ the Maz 8? #2 — I had a buddy who had a Maz 18 NR and basically hated the FX loop. Apparently it's wired in after the master volume and that caused some issues that may or may not have been related to some clipping problems he was having. Also lamented the fact that it wasn't buffered. (He had to run a buffer in there.) How is it on the Maz 8? Any problems? I just sold my Maz 18 and replaced it with a Maz 8. #1) I did not notice any noise, anything significant anyway, when I use the reverb or cut knob on either amp. I suppose if I was only playing in my house and it was actually quiet I might hear something but nothing that bothers me while I am playing or recording. #2) my Maz 8 is my first experience with a Dr Z effects loop so I am not sure about the buffering question. My guess is that it is not buffered. I run a buffer on my pedal board anyway so this won't bother me either way. Personally, I would rather not have it and have the choice to add it if I wanted one vs having one and not being able to turn it off. Some pedals, especially fuzz pedals, don't always play nice with a buffer so no buffer is a good thing to me I do want to run my Line 6 M9 thru the efffects loop so I am going to make up a snake cable to do this, once that is done I'll give it a wirl. I'll run my OD pedals and boost thru the pre amp and my Line 6 thru the loop. I hope this helps, I do love the amp, I put about 6 hours on mine over this past weekend including 2 rehersals and a church service, no issues, great tone and it even powered my Zbest very will in triode mode! Todd
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Post by crxsh on Nov 1, 2011 6:51:31 GMT -7
Thanks so much, Todd! Great to finally get a response.
And I hear you on the buffer thing... but you really wouldn't run a fuzz in your FX loop anyway, I wouldn't think, so that shouldn't be a problem. Good to know you're not having any issues with noise though.
I haven't been a big FX loop user to date anyway, but if I'm able to get the Maz 8 down into the volume range I'm hoping I can (with some natural drive), I just want to make sure I'm not running into any issues.
Thanks again!!
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Post by pcns on Nov 1, 2011 9:20:18 GMT -7
^^^ the fuzz was just an example of a pedal that doesn't like buffers I like the natural OD, that is all I used last Saturday night, be sure to check out the triode mode, its sounds really nice. looking forward to you posting about placing an order! Todd
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Post by crxsh on Nov 1, 2011 18:32:58 GMT -7
Soon enough. Or not. Whichever. Either way — it's definitely in the plans.
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Post by doctorice on Nov 2, 2011 9:37:35 GMT -7
^^^ Maybe a PM two one or two people might get you an answer quicker? Looks like those with Maz8s are too busy playing 'em! ;D I'd be glad to oblige but my 8 failed before I could do the a/b with the 18. Hope to have it back soon.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2011 7:30:15 GMT -7
I really like the triode mode. I think that in itself sets the maz 8 apart from the maz 18. They are both great amps. The Maz 18 is going to obviously have more power and headroom. It a matter of personal preference. Get what works for you in your playing environment.
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Post by Alan M (aka 'Milky') on Nov 4, 2011 6:01:04 GMT -7
I just sold my Maz 18 and replaced it with a Maz 8. I Todd Todd, you've got me thinking........THAT might just be a good plan!! I reckon I could cover all my needs with the Galaxie, Ghia and a Maz8...... ;D ;D
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Post by skipowder on Nov 4, 2011 13:54:49 GMT -7
I'm wondering about a Maz 8 vs. a Maz 18 with a Brakelite. My main purpose in wanting a Maz 8 (other than simply my GAS problem) would be to get more "full tube experience" at lower volumes. You know, get a little relief from my wife and kids' complaining about my volume levels. :-) I know there are a lot of other reasons that other people might care...but that would be mine.
But you get that problem solved with a Brakelite as well...so would love to hear from anyone who may have compared those two scenarios?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 17:24:16 GMT -7
I'm wondering about a Maz 8 vs. a Maz 18 with a Brakelite. My main purpose in wanting a Maz 8 (other than simply my GAS problem) would be to get more "full tube experience" at lower volumes. You know, get a little relief from my wife and kids' complaining about my volume levels. :-) I know there are a lot of other reasons that other people might care...but that would be mine. But you get that problem solved with a Brakelite as well...so would love to hear from anyone who may have compared those two scenarios? I bought the Maz 8 and ended up returning it. I am going the Maz 18 NR I also have the brake lite and use it at home with my remedy and it keeps the wife and kids happy. I loved the Maz 8 at home it sounded fantastic. It is by far the best bedroom recording amp I have came into contact with just wonderful sounds at reasonable volume. I was looking for that and a Gigging combo. I play in a very close loud environment and unfortunately the maz 8 didn't work out for me. So I have a Maz 18 Nr on order to replace the maz 8. If you are in a venue that mic's your amp then that would of course be the solution for the maz 8. For me that is not always an available option so I ended up having to bite the bullet and regretfully send back my maz 8. Maybe one day down the road I can get another one but for right now I need a gigging combo. So its the maz 18 nr.
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Post by doctorice on Nov 4, 2011 19:18:46 GMT -7
^^^
K, revrand, for the above.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2011 10:08:27 GMT -7
Thanks Doc!
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Nov 6, 2011 11:13:44 GMT -7
^^^^
So, can you get a Triode mode update done to the Maz18? Or would that only work on a single ended amp I wonder?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2011 18:53:11 GMT -7
^^^^ So, can you get a Triode mode update done to the Maz18? Or would that only work on a single ended amp I wonder? I am not sure but if it ever comes available I will be up for that for sure.
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