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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 13:12:59 GMT -7
I am getting a Brake Lite shipped to me and I am pretty excited to be able to finally see what these things are all about....My Maz Jr is what it is going in. I have had the amp for a couple years now and love it...but ya, it's loud! I don't mind that but everyone else does...
Anyway...I set my dials now all at ten o'clock, I know I will be able to turn the V's up and I will push it a little with my Flying Dragon and BB preamp, likely have to tweek the eq's a little too?...should be a fun week next week
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Post by markT on May 13, 2011 13:18:15 GMT -7
COngrat's Mark! You'll love it. Thicken's up the sound a bit!
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 13:55:11 GMT -7
Thanks Mark...definitely looking forward to it man! I was playing just a minute ago thinking about what I should be able to do with it....stay tuned
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Post by doctorice on May 15, 2011 8:46:25 GMT -7
We'll be waiting for the report, Mark.
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Post by markT on May 15, 2011 15:05:03 GMT -7
Mark, which one did you get? Original or SA?
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Post by Corey on May 16, 2011 4:13:19 GMT -7
Is it "out for delivery" today Mark? Give us your first thoughts bro.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 4:32:54 GMT -7
Mark, which one did you get? Original or SA? original....I traded with a forum member here...might be here today, I would like to get a video demo of it but most I have seen don't really give you an idea of the volume drop but instead a little more gain. Once I play with it for a bit I will try my take at a demo.
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Post by Corey on May 16, 2011 5:17:55 GMT -7
^^^ ..lookin' forward Mark...
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 5:42:27 GMT -7
it's here!! Now I just have to wait for lunch break to get home and try it out....then I will piece together a video
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Post by Corey on May 16, 2011 7:05:36 GMT -7
Oh, goody! ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 9:33:39 GMT -7
so far not too bad...I think I need to spend some more time with it...Getting both V's to noon is great and keeping the BL on 2 is perfect, sounds nice...but if I drive it harder with the volume at 3 and say the BL on 3 or 4, it sounds awful in my opinion....fuzzy and sterile. Maybe new tubes are in order next. Anyway, I do like this thing at 2, it still sounds nice and big....more experimenting to do before I really get into a review
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Post by mpa93 on May 16, 2011 9:47:28 GMT -7
Hey Mark, here's a setting that seems to work for me. Volume Maxed, Master at 2-3 o'clock. I ususally put the BL at 4 or 3 depending on the size of the room. Just a suggestion...looking forward to your report (as always).
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Post by Corey on May 16, 2011 9:53:12 GMT -7
Thanks for the quick snip Mark. I can't wait to hear a thorough review. You know I've never been an attenuator-type-of-guy.. but, if one was gonna haunt me.. it'd be the BL SA.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 10:14:56 GMT -7
Hey Mark, here's a setting that seems to work for me. Volume Maxed, Master at 2-3 o'clock. I ususally put the BL at 4 or 3 depending on the size of the room. Just a suggestion...looking forward to your report (as always). Thanks Mike....ya I really dig the sound at 2...3 starts to get a little subdued if you will. I had the Volume at 3 and Master at 2 and I didn't care for what I was getting...it's gotta be my tubes I would think. Now with both V's at noon and the BL on 2, I liked it...A LOT! THe Flying Dragon boosts the tone at this level quite nicely, and the BB well....that's outstanding period. More play and talk to come, I will mess around with some settings
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Post by doctorice on May 16, 2011 11:31:30 GMT -7
Good stuff, Mark. I find 3 and 4 on my Z-28 do constrict the sound and higher settings of the volume knob don't sound as good as they do when the BL is not as involved in the sound.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 7:10:32 GMT -7
Still playing around a bit but I think I have concluded that I like the following the most: Telecaster to BB preamp and Flying Dragon as well as Delay pedal (Corey's Rounder is on the board too so I can run straight with no effects) BL on 1 or 2 V - noon EQ's at ten (mids at noon is cool too) MV noon cut at 9
at this level I still have plenty of that full tone...maybe a slight touch of hair depending on how hard I pick or strum....use the Flying Dragon to fatten things up a little more...and for all out balls to the wall the BB is there as well. I may reverse the order of the Dragon and BB...put the Dragon first perhaps to experiment a little. The Brake Lite is a cool addition. It's something new to me that's for sure, never had an attenuator ever before so I am learning to find some new settings. I do need new tubes...perhaps this is why I don't care for the maxed volume settings that everyone raves about...I think it sounds like a cheap amp...not what a Maz Jr should sound like. Maybe it's my speaker too...I have a Tone Tubby 40/40 ceramic...perhaps it likes to be driven a little harder to sound its finest.
Anyway, long story short, I think I dig the BL, need to fiddle with some settings a little more but I think I have settled in click 2 and V's at noon....til I make a tube swap then we will see what happens from there
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Post by Corey on May 17, 2011 7:45:43 GMT -7
Good report Mark. Indeed, that Tubby 40/40 needs some juice. When more observations come, keep us posted.
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Post by Ben on May 17, 2011 9:27:29 GMT -7
Hey Mark. I'm sure that a fresh set of tubes all round will make a big difference on the unattenuated tone of your amp - from what I gather you've put some considerable amount of hrs on those tubes and EL84's being what they are, they are more than likely pass their "peak" life spand. Before going any further, i'm that the following two things are affecting your EQ setting: 1- You're playing a Tele, I have a Strat and 2- Your speaker Vs my 2x10s. I say this as I never found to get a good tone out of my setup with all EQ's set flat to 10. And I say this without meaning to sound pretentious or anything Mark I found that EQ adjustements were required to keep those fuller tones when using this attenuator. I also prefer to have the Cut almost wide open, but you'd have to roll back the Treble that's for sure. The fuzzy and sterile comment you made earlier I can relate too. I too had the same comment about the unit @ higher setting (I had an airbrake). It worked great for the first couple of clicks, but I didn't like it pass that unfortunately, so I went with another unit. I'm sure you'll get it figured out soon though Cheers Ben
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 9:34:43 GMT -7
Hey Mark. I'm sure that a fresh set of tubes all round will make a big difference on the unattenuated tone of your amp - from what I gather you've put some considerable amount of hrs on those tubes and EL84's being what they are, they are more than likely pass their "peak" life spand. Before going any further, i'm that the following two things are affecting your EQ setting: 1- You're playing a Tele, I have a Strat and 2- Your speaker Vs my 2x10s. I say this as I never found to get a good tone out of my setup with all EQ's set flat to 10. And I say this without meaning to sound pretentious or anything Mark I found that EQ adjustements were required to keep those fuller tones when using this attenuator. I also prefer to have the Cut almost wide open, but you'd have to roll back the Treble that's for sure. The fuzzy and sterile comment you made earlier I can relate too. I too had the same comment about the unit @ higher setting (I had an airbrake). It worked great for the first couple of clicks, but I didn't like it pass that unfortunately, so I went with another unit. I'm sure you'll get it figured out soon though Cheers Ben Thanks Ben....I appreciate the insight man! Funny for me, the eq's at 10 just became the norm...I am really used to them there and seem to work just great for me but I do read that others have certain ones maxed out and it works for them.... I certainly have to experiment some more with the eq's. I was supposed to buy tubes a week or so ago but blew the coins on other crap....lol. Will get em soon though.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on May 17, 2011 9:40:52 GMT -7
One other thing to keep in mind when you attenuate: your ears will fool you. Human hearing is non-linear in that as volume goes down, perception of bass frequencies drops off faster than perception of midrange. That's why all the old stereos used to have a button on there called "Loudness" - if you ever pressed that button you noticed more bass. Although most of us just left that on all the time, the point of it was to fill in the bottom when you turned the volume low. Look up Fletcher–Munson curves for more info, but suffice it to say that when you attenuate, you might consider some adjustements to your tone controls to compensate for what your ears are doing to your perceptions.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 9:49:25 GMT -7
thanks Steve....Ya I hear no loss in bass, that's for damn sure, I seem to have plenty of that no matter what. I know this addition certainly adds some new mysteries and fun to the Maz Jr!
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 8:55:01 GMT -7
Mark--sometime, just for yucks, try maxing your volume with the MV around 1:00 or so, BL on 1 or 2. To me, that's the way the Jr was really meant to be heard. You'll want to stand back a bit.
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Post by doctorice on May 18, 2011 9:28:39 GMT -7
Mark--sometime, just for yucks, try maxing your volume with the MV around 1:00 or so, BL on 1 or 2. To me, that's the way the Jr was really meant to be heard. You'll want to stand back a bit. A good bit back. Use a long cable.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 10:38:52 GMT -7
Mark--sometime, just for yucks, try maxing your volume with the MV around 1:00 or so, BL on 1 or 2. To me, that's the way the Jr was really meant to be heard. You'll want to stand back a bit. I bet!!! ;D Today I went home for a few mins while on my lunch break. I put the BL on 2, Master at Noon, V at 2....Then I played around with the eq's a little, putting the treble up a bit and cut up as well...I think they were at noon or there about and proceeded to really enjoy this setting with my tele. I had also rearranged my pedal board one more time, just simply tuner>flying dragon>BB preamp>delay....this is sweet!!! Love it! I might be able to do a demo video soon, guess I just have to have some time to myself to do it. Adding the BL has been a bit of an eye opener as you do have to play around a little with the eq's, I have learned this from your posts and of course just through experimenting with things myself. I do like it and will continue to play around a little...now I just have to wait til the gig in June to really tell the tale. Thanks everyone for the tips!!!
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Post by jammergreg on May 26, 2011 15:04:28 GMT -7
BL is a Great tool for taming the LION at a club or where volume is an issue. i now have the S. A. B. L. is a must w/ Remedy or hearing loss with a smile on your face.
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