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Post by stoneham11 on Feb 13, 2006 21:00:01 GMT -7
I'm trying to decide between the two and I've read that both can give those Marshallesque tones so if any of you could give me any feedback that would be great.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2006 21:15:26 GMT -7
Hi stoneham11, I keep running into you on this forum. I wrote this in the previous post and thought it might help you out. I think the BB is a fantastic pedal. It gives a definite Marshall flavour to the mix that I have got. Unlike the AC booster, which to me had similar amount of drive to the OD-9(ts9) and had a nasal sound quality, the BB is voiced to sound more like a Marshall. There are mids in the sound but they are low mids. No midrange hump like the tube screamer, so the two compliment each other very well. I use each one seperately and together for solos and use the RC to boost the volume. The BB can get that great crunch sound the Ghia gets as well as some serious hard rock tones. I do not think it is a pedal meant for modern metal, maybe with humbuckers, but it covers all those great Marshall rock tones. I am sure you can cop some of Eric Johnsons lead tones with good fuzz infront of the BB as well. I use them both equally though I am loving the BB at the moment and seem to give it a little more attention. I would say try it and really experiment with the treble and bass knobs. They are really sensitive and can tame the highs on a Strat and add some bite to a les paul. Try to see if you can sign one out and try it with your rig. Also check out Alan Hinds video clips on the Xotic pedals website. The company is called procommunications. You can google both and it will come out. Alan has two sets of videos and in the second set he demonstrated the BB really well. Scott Henderson also has new clips with the BB. It's kinda funny because the BB knocked the Analogman SD-9 of my board and it did the same thing for Scott. Hope this helps. Sorry it's so long. I have had the distortion pro and it is a very tweakable pedal but I found it lacking in headroom. Also I find the natural sound of the BB to be much more convincing as far as Marshall tones are concerned. Much easier to use as well. BB has a lot of headroom and cuts really well and adds to the natural sound of your guitar. I was never able to get the fulltone to were it was really cooking. I had it for almost a year and then got tired of tweaking. Check out the clips for the BB and try before you buy. I don't think you will be disappointed. Good luck!
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Post by iggs on Feb 14, 2006 8:42:24 GMT -7
Hi, I have a Distortion Pro (allong with FD2 Mosfet, OCD, BarberLTD Silver, Tonebone Trimode ... etc.) and I really like it ... it is NOT a ultra-high gain metal type distortion pedal that many thought it was, bought it and then wrote bad reviews on Harmony Central ... IMHO it has less gain then OCD but is also less compressed ... unless you crank up the Saturation knob all the way. I use it for mid-high gain sounds where I'm playing full chords instead of power chords and need more string to string definition and clarity. It also cleans up really well ... it definitely has it's own sound, which for me, works great. It's super quiet and like all Fulltone stuff the build quality is top-notch. Oddly enough I'm looking into getting a BB as well, tried one in the store and really liked it. Don't think it's "one is better then the other" comparison, to my ears they both sound great ... just different. BB sounds more compressed then DP-1, sort of like the OCD but with a bit more "rounder" edges .. OCD is quite "sharp" (which I like!). They both sound great for lead stuff as well. The EQ on the BB is great and the whole pedal is very transparent ... DP-1 has more controls and they are a bit un-orthodox but once you figure out how they interact with one another you can get tons of different sounds out of it, IMHO BB is more of a traditional straight-forward (but great sounding) distortion pedal and DP-1 is more flexible and lets you shape the distortion characteristics and response more. Hope this helps.
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Post by James on Feb 14, 2006 9:52:47 GMT -7
Boy.............I owned a Dist Pro for about 2 months but just could not get into it. It got the GP award and rave reviews so I purchased it based on those things alone. The sound clips on the website don't really give you much to go on. Anyway, I found it to be too over the top...........and basically kind of fake sounding...not very musical...........could be that it was just more overdrive than I wanted or maybe I was not "tweaking" it correctly............no offense to anyone who liked it....I play mostly roots music and have no use for the Van Halen esque tones...........
I actually have an AC and an RC on order.........replacing an OCD and the DP...........I just don't need the levels of drive the fulltones were offering.
Love my fulltone Mini Deja vibe though!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2006 11:16:43 GMT -7
While I did not like the Distortion Pro, I do love my fulltone supa-trem. My advice stoneham11 is to try both with your rig and see which feels better for you. Have fun!
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Post by billyguitar on Feb 14, 2006 11:42:58 GMT -7
I once tried a Distortion Pro and couldn't for the life of me, see why anyone would want one. It sounded like a buzz saw to me. I thought the OCD was average. I did like the BB. Much more natural sounding than the Fulltone stuff. Slightly fizzy on top but good sounding and tweakable with the bass and treble knobs.
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Post by James on Feb 14, 2006 12:17:14 GMT -7
I hear ya BillyGuitar..............I have actually never been so dissappointed in a pedal purchase.......
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Post by billyguitar on Feb 14, 2006 16:22:26 GMT -7
I'm sure it's (the d-pro) has pretty good resale. Dump it quick!
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Post by guitarman on Feb 14, 2006 17:39:21 GMT -7
okay, i own the Fulltone Distortion Pro, the AC Booster, and the BB.
I use the Fulltone as a light to mid level drive and it is great!! i use a Marshall Guv'nor 2 for heavy drive (no metal here). the BB is new, but finding it's way into the mix (a very cool pedal). the AC booster is for the boost and added drive for leads.
all are into a Carmen Ghia 2x10 and i constantly get compliments on tone and use of drive levels. these are not all in one pedals, but if tweaked and place properly in the chain, they excel.
my $.02
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Post by billyguitar on Feb 14, 2006 19:20:29 GMT -7
I realized something. I do know good tone when I hear it. But it is defined by the music I like and the sounds I hear in MY head. Other people like different music and different sounds. None is more valid than another. I shouldn't condemn any sound or pedal just because I don't like it. I'll try to state my opinions couched in the pretext that these are only MY opinions based on MY definitions. This little epiphany doesn't change my opinions about the pedals in question, they just don't even begin to twirl my turban! In other words I'll just end my statements with IMO. Of course, it could be argued that 90% of what's on a forum like this are statements of opinions, which is one of the aspects of this that makes it fun! So we don't really even need to say IMO do we? Back to our program already in progress.............
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Post by stoneham11 on Feb 14, 2006 20:19:02 GMT -7
Nice rant Billy and thanks for everybody's help. I just need something with a little more than just overdrive. I definately don't wan't a metal sound or Van Halen (not a big fan) but just something for them heavier sounds. I would like to compare the two but nobody in this area carry them.
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Post by hollywood5150 on Feb 14, 2006 22:45:15 GMT -7
I know that Peeler Music in Toledo has the Xotic pedals, thats where I got my BB. Still a ways away, but they have them. Great people to deal with. They are also a Z dealer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2006 1:31:29 GMT -7
Hey stoneham11, you can check out fulltone's website and look under Mike's Music. Click on video. You will see a four video clips that all feature the Distortion Pro and some of Mike Fuller's other goodies. There is one clip that is all Distortion pro. The clips are of Mike Fuller and his band live somewhere and he is runnning through some pretty classic gear so it should give you a good idea of what that pedal can do. Also check out Xotic pedals website and click on 'watch our reality web video' in the top corner. I know it is hard to check out cool pedals when you don't have dealers near you, but these guys have a lot of clips of some great players in all sorts of situations so you can really check out what these pedals can do. Definitely check out the Alan Hinds section. It was his clips that convinced me to buy a BB. I too don't have a dealer near me and had to do research over the net which is usually pretty scary. Go with your gut reaction to the pedals. It is usually the most honest. If you like it, great. If you don't, the search continues..... Arun
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Post by billyguitar on Feb 15, 2006 6:57:05 GMT -7
I really like the Allen Hinds video. It's what made interested in the BB although I don't need that sound and didn't buy it. Pretty good representation of the pedal except you have to mentally deduct the reverb and other things. Like looking at a house for sale that needs work, you have to envision it as it will be. Any way I could tell the pedal would be good and it was. I heard Mike's demos of the OCD and then checked out that pedal when it came out. When I tried it it didn't sound half as good as his demo. Set up right into a sympathetic rig like he does, and you've got something but thru your rig, maybe not.
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Post by iggs on Feb 15, 2006 7:51:27 GMT -7
Sound and tone are subjective AT BEST! That's why I personally don't like saying that something is crap ... "I don't like it" is a more appropriate description IMHO.
Not every pedal will sound good with every amp and every guitar, especially OD and Dist pedals. My OCD sounds horrible through my VHT 50CL while it sounds surprisingly good through my tranny Peavey ... go figure! Can't wait to hear it through my 6545 (coming soon). The best thing to do is try the thing through a as close of a set-up as you have ... don't play the pedal through a Strat and MesaBoogie if you have a LP and Marshall at home ... or a Dr.Z ;-)
My wonderfull wife surprised me with the BB Preamp as a Valentines Gift yesterday ... I like it even more then I liked it at the store, it sounds great to me ... it's going on the pedal board asap! It does have a very "Marshall" like sound, thick and nicely compressed ... to my ears, once the gain is all the way off, both treble and bass in the neutral position, the BB is the most transparent pedal, with that much gain and distortion, that I've heard. I really like it. For those "Marshallesque" sounds I would recommend BB over the DistPro ... IMHO.
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Post by johnnyl on Feb 15, 2006 12:47:42 GMT -7
I got some great Marshall tones out of the Emma ReezaFratzitz that I had. Great Pedal. I just had to have a Hellbilly and traded it off. It's worth checking out though.
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Post by hollywood5150 on Feb 16, 2006 17:29:27 GMT -7
The Alan Hines video is what sold me on the BB, well all Xotic stuff for that matter.
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Post by billyguitar on Feb 16, 2006 17:57:53 GMT -7
I actually think comparing the BB and the D-pro is apples to oranges. They are not in any equivalent.
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