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Post by jwr on Jan 24, 2006 13:19:45 GMT -7
Since we're talking about pedal boards here recently I've got a question that pertains to that very subject. I've been spending a lot of time sitting in front of my amps plugging straight into it. But when I plug my Fulltone Clyde or Fatboost into the front of the amp I can here the loss of high frequencies. I use monster cable and I'm using 15' cables(So 30' total). Is anyone using a VHT Valvulator or a Groove Tubes Brick on there pedal board to regain some of the clarity?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 24, 2006 17:59:14 GMT -7
Your biggest problem is probably those cables. Yeah, I know, they charge a lot for them. Go down and get a good quiet room and run through a bunch of different cables. You'll be amazed at how different they all are from each other. When the salesman I work with told me that, I told him he was full of it. Until I agreed to try it. Holy cow! There is as much difference between cables as there is between strings, speakers, tubes - just about any variable you can imagine. Well maybe I'm exagerating - but there is a big difference. And the Monster cables I owned at the time were the WORST relative to HF loss. Unfortunately I don't have any experience with most of the current cabling, because I bought some really expensive cables and have been using them ever since. During that period of time, several companies have introduced new cable products. Maybe some of the others here can make recommendations. What'd I get? Solid cables (that's the brand name). See them at www.solidcables.com/. These are not cheap, but they sound great and are built the same way aerospace cabling is built - to last a long time.
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Post by jwr on Jan 25, 2006 9:04:32 GMT -7
I've been thinking about George L's. Played through them over the Holidays and liked it a lot. Yeah, I'm on the fence about those monster cables. I can hear the loss of clarity and high end with both the Z-28 and my MAZ SR with my Fulltone pedals in front of them. I'll check out that site. Maybe I need to look no further than my cables. Thanks benttop
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Post by iggs on Jan 25, 2006 9:10:15 GMT -7
Yeah, George L's is great stuff ... I've rewired my whole pedalboard with .155 cable and right angle jacks and it really helped "clear things up". I also use George L's from the guitar and to the amp ... the thicker .225 version.
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Post by rcrecelius on Jan 25, 2006 10:06:30 GMT -7
Monster cables no good? Boy, did I get suckered! I just bought a 12' and a 21' MOnster cable. To my ears, I thought they sounded better than the cables I'd been using(for probably 10+ years) so I thoguht I had made a smart purchase. Ive thought about wiring my pedalboard with George L's but Im skeptical of those "DIY" ends...surely they get loose and cause problems after awhile but...I could be wrong...Im sure there are arguments both ways.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 25, 2006 11:47:50 GMT -7
Monster cables no good? Boy, did I get suckered! I just bought a 12' and a 21' MOnster cable. To my ears, I thought they sounded better than the cables I'd been using(for probably 10+ years) so I thoguht I had made a smart purchase. Ive thought about wiring my pedalboard with George L's but Im skeptical of those "DIY" ends...surely they get loose and cause problems after awhile but...I could be wrong...Im sure there are arguments both ways. Don't believe me - believe your own ears. Maybe they've improved them since the ones I bought, or maybe you're listening for something entirely different from me. We all have our own holy grail, after all. But do the test - I was astonished at the difference.
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 25, 2006 12:09:01 GMT -7
I've been using Geoge L cables for about 8 years. They do sometimes come loose and need to be clipped off and reconnected, very infrequent though. I like how small these cables are physically. You can put 3 or 4 of them in the space that one other cable might take in your bag. On a board they are very easy to make the right length and very easy to route thru tight bends. I have one of the bigger wire cables and it's very stiff and awkward to use so I don't use it. I see where Core (the pedal board people) are making their own do it yourself cables. Haven't seen them in person yet.
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Post by jwr on Jan 25, 2006 12:27:50 GMT -7
I've heard that the George L's are more "open" sounding than other cables. And the same person told me the Monster cables tend to sound a little compressed. I'm really trying to keep that open, 3D sound I get from my Shiva, 38, and 28 when I plug straight into them. If it means new cables so be it. If I gotta spend $500 on a Groove Tubes Brick I'll do that too.
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