|
Post by sngng59 on Dec 9, 2006 8:57:11 GMT -7
Hey guys, I just borrowed a buddies airbrake last night to try with my RXES head through an Avatar oversized 2x12 w/ a greenback and G12H30 and I don't know if I'm quite diggin' it as much as the amp un-attenuated. You might say Duh! but hear me out. I used to own a Maz38 reverb combo that sounded awesome knocked down 2 even 3 clicks on the airbrake but for some reason it seems the RXES does'nt like it as well. I like to run through the low input w/overdose engaged and pushing the front end with a pedal (all in moderation of course), same formula as the Maz but it seems more stifled. Am I better off sans airbrake with this rig or am I missing something? Thanks much -t
|
|
|
Post by Danny on Dec 9, 2006 12:38:30 GMT -7
I've had my RxES head and 2x12 open back cab for a number of months now. It's a gorgeous sounding amp, as you already know. My problem, like yours and just about every other RxES owner, has been playing mostly smaller venues where you simply can't open it up enough to hit the sweet range between 12:00 and 3:00 (unless I'm playing an outdoor gig, which I do all throughout the summers, where I can open it up and back off on my presence in the mains).
So I took delivery on an Air Brake about a month ago. I've experimented with the AB on each of the 4 main settings as well as throughout the "bedroom" sweep. But, darn it, I haven't yet had a chance to take the RxES and the AB to a club gig, though I will in 2 weeks and will report back after that gig.
But as far and practice sessions at home go, I've been very pleased to discover that using the AB even down on level 4 (where I consistently set it here at home) hasn't really affected my tone in the least. I typically run the volume anywhere from 12:00 to 2:00, the middle on about 2:00, the bass at noon, and the treble down about 10:00. (Generally no Overdose.)
I most often play either an American Deluxe Strat, an Anderson T Classic Tele, or an Epi Les Paul with WCR Crossroads. I run those through 2 separate RC Boosters - one strictly for EQ, the other set for a very mild level of grit - then, if/as needed, into (1) an Analogman King of Tone with the drive at about 2:30, (2) a Keeley modded TS9, or (3) a Jekyll & Hyde.
Even with the AB on 4 I've never heard the LP sound SOOOO GOOOOD. I can get it to sound just like Dickie Betts on "Jessica," "One Way Out," or "Whipping Post," just like Angus on "Shook Me All Night Long" or "Back In Black," etc., and just like any of the early guys with John Mayall (Clapton/Beano, Green, Taylor). No lie. I can't complain about loss of tone using the AB at those levels with the gear I've just described. Others' mileage may vary, but mine really sounds sweet!
|
|
|
Post by dock66 on Dec 9, 2006 20:56:51 GMT -7
Using an Air Brake with RxEs is an excellent idea,you really want to push the amp a little hard to appreciate what this BEAST can do.This is JMO.
|
|
|
Post by skydog958 on Dec 17, 2006 9:33:33 GMT -7
Now you got to tell me, ferguson, what combination got you the Betts tone. That honky-horn sounding solo on "One Way Out" gives me the chills when I hear it! Also love the early Mayall guys to, not to mention the current one!
I also use the Airbrake because else I'd lose my hearing. Usually use it at 3 or 4. Works great!
|
|
|
Post by Danny on Dec 27, 2006 9:08:13 GMT -7
Now you got to tell me, ferguson, what combination got you the Betts tone. That honky-horn sounding solo on "One Way Out" gives me the chills when I hear it! Also love the early Mayall guys to, not to mention the current one! I also use the Airbrake because else I'd lose my hearing. Usually use it at 3 or 4. Works great! Skydog, I just went back to check this thread and discovered your question. I'm SO sorry to have missed it. The combination is typically this: Epi LP Standard with WCR Crossroads pickups. Most often the middle toggle position for Betts, especially for "Jessica", although the bridge PU can work well, too, for other songs. Bridge PU for any of the Mayall boys. RxES: volume around 12:00 to 2:00, the middle on about 2:00, the bass at noon, and the treble down about 10:00. AB: depends on the room, but 2-4 is okay. The first RC Booster is almost always engaged. It's set for 'tone enriching' - a bit extra treble AND bass, and a bit of gain. With the second RC engaged, adding nothing more than a touch more gain, and on the middle pickup, and with the Barber Compressor on, I get great "Jessica". Turn off the 2nd RC and kick on the Hyde side of my Jekyll & Hyde, with gain/drive set between 10:00 and 12:00 I can get all the rest, including that rich Betts tone on "One Way Out." For Beano tone I'll sometimes kick on the second RC with extra treble to try to approximate the Rangemaster treble boost. Cheers!
|
|
|
Post by drew on Dec 28, 2006 0:29:33 GMT -7
Hey Ferguson,
The RXES with the AB works for me. I couldn't play the amp without it? RXES is one loud MoFo. I'm using a 1/12 closed back ported cab. I tried the Avatar 1x12 oversized vintage openback cab/G12h Loaded and didn't care for it with the RXES. It sounds great with the Maz Sr???
I'm new to the RXES as well and use the AB on 4 to tame the beast. I'm tried lower AB settings but the band situation I'm in won't allow it. The RXES and AB work for me. I've got a Maz Sr and used the AB with el Sr with good results. The RXES is now my prefered amp. I'm using RC and BB pedals. I'm not playing rock tunes but do get to play with OD tones and am using single pup guitars. The RC boosts the tone with a bit of hair. The BB puts in the crunch +. Kick in both and it's fat city. The RXES is so full and has that rock bottom and highend twang. YMMV
|
|
|
Post by skydog958 on Dec 28, 2006 21:48:01 GMT -7
Thanks furgeson! Don't worry 'bout the wait, I kinda forgot about it myself! ;D
|
|
|
Post by cap217 on Aug 13, 2013 11:51:48 GMT -7
If the RXES is 45 watts and you use an attenuator. How does it affect the wattage?
I want to run my rxes through my z wreck 2x12. We all know thats 30w speaker handling but hte amp is 45w. Where can I set the attenuator to knock the wattage (not db) down?
I know that 3db is double the volume so does this mean that 3db of attenuation equals 22.5w? I dont think that would make sense...
|
|
|
Post by benttop (Steve) on Aug 14, 2013 20:07:42 GMT -7
If the RXES is 45 watts and you use an attenuator. How does it affect the wattage? I want to run my rxes through my z wreck 2x12. We all know thats 30w speaker handling but hte amp is 45w. Where can I set the attenuator to knock the wattage (not db) down? I know that 3db is double the volume so does this mean that 3db of attenuation equals 22.5w? I dont think that would make sense... Well it is kind of a hard question to answer without resorting to some theory, but you might be able to see from this: According to Ohms Law, Power is equal to Voltage times Current. So if you were to measure the voltage across your speakers, and the current flowing at that time, you could calculate the power being dissipated by your speakers. If you put resistance in the circuit, you can lower the current. You can measure this in a variety of ways - the lower current; the resulting lower power; or you can use a handy unit of measure called a decibel. Lower decibels equals lower current which also equals lower power. All the airbrake is doing is adding some resistance in the circuit and using up some of the power that would normally get dissipated by your speakers. You can tell that it is doing that because it gets warm - that's the part of the power the Airbrake is using up. If you click on the links in my signature - the one for speakers, you can see the db values for the Airbrake in the table there. You are correct that a drop of 3db is 1/2 power. So you would need to make sure you keep the Airbrake set for 3db or greater for the RXES.
|
|